Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/index.php)
-   Sports (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=57)
-   -   Worst contract in pro sports (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49777)

shilala 10-05-2011 12:54 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
I'm pretty sure that the Pittsburgh Pirates are still paying on Mike LaValliere's contract from back in '87.

forgop 10-05-2011 03:15 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 1430128)
Find that Blantons stopper yet?

I'm still looking for one-kinda like the colts searching for a win instead of sucking. It must be tough to stare at your Peytie-Poo shrine now.

AlohaStyle 10-05-2011 03:44 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1430117)
:confused: Did you mean, not fully guaranteed? :confused:

Yep, sorry.

The Poet 10-05-2011 03:52 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
I have no idea which contract is the absolute worst, but there's one point about A-Rod many seem to overlook: It was the Rangers, not the Yankees, who first signed him to a monster deal, and it was also the Rangers who ate much of it when he came to The Bronx.

Resipsa 10-05-2011 04:15 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1430420)
I'm still looking for one-kinda like the colts searching for a win instead of sucking. It must be tough to stare at your Peytie-Poo shrine now.

Thanks for confirming:banger

yachties23 10-05-2011 04:26 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1430485)
I have no idea which contract is the absolute worst, but there's one point about A-Rod many seem to overlook: It was the Rangers, not the Yankees, who first signed him to a monster deal, and it was also the Rangers who ate much of it when he came to The Bronx.

But when he opted out who extended him for 10 years? Honestly the first contract wasn't so bad, it would be expiring now, and maybe he had 1 or 2 below average years, and won like what 3 MVP awards during the span of that contract, and not one since the extension. The Yankees were bidding against themselves and still have 6 more years left on this deal @ like 25 million a season.

If you get the MVP of the league who hits 40 plus homers, drives in 110 runs, hits .300 plays a solid 3rd base, 25 million a year isn't so bad by baseball standards. If you get a guy who is 40, coming off hip surgery, and not anywhere near as productive as he used to be, oh and you have 6 more years to pay him, than that is a bad contract.

Oh by the way, Kei Igawa is another one that just baffles my mind.

NeuRon 10-05-2011 04:42 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
AJ Burnett @ 5 years, 82.5 million.. dude is a scrub.. this is just off the top of my head

this thread is pretty cool.. i will have to dig a little deeper

jonumberone 10-05-2011 04:47 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yachties23 (Post 1430526)
But when he opted out who extended him for 10 years? Honestly the first contract wasn't so bad, it would be expiring now, and maybe he had 1 or 2 below average years, and won like what 3 MVP awards during the span of that contract, and not one since the extension. The Yankees were bidding against themselves and still have 6 more years left on this deal @ like 25 million a season.

If you get the MVP of the league who hits 40 plus homers, drives in 110 runs, hits .300 plays a solid 3rd base, 25 million a year isn't so bad by baseball standards. If you get a guy who is 40, coming off hip surgery, and not anywhere near as productive as he used to be, oh and you have 6 more years to pay him, than that is a bad contract.

Oh by the way, Kei Igawa is another one that just baffles my mind.

When you look at the ARod contract it hasn't run it's course, so it's hard to call it bad.
You are assuming he's done, but that may or may not be the case.
Granted I don't think he'll ever hit 50 hr with 135rbi again, but 30 100 is not unreasonable for a healthy ARod!
And that's only the on field aspect of the deal
If you start to consider other factors, it gets better.
First off, merchandising.
All those #13 tshirts and jerseys you see, the yanks get a big piece of that.
You also have to consider the ratings bonanza hr # 600 was and how big # 700,715,756 and 763 will be.
Not to mention all the additional memorabilia they will sell in relation to the chase.
Ticket sales, Gate revenue both home and away and brand exposure all go up when Arod is on the team.

For the Yanks, Arod is not a player, he's a commodity!

yachties23 10-05-2011 05:08 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Good points Dom. You are absolutely right, he is a commodity, and worth more to the Yankees than just his on the field numbers.

I didn't say it was the worst contract, I just think its quite a bit of money to give to a guy at 40+

icehog3 10-05-2011 05:10 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRonS (Post 1430541)
AJ Burnett @ 5 years, 82.5 million.. dude is a scrub.. this is just off the top of my head

Kicked my Tigers' asses last night. :hn

Stephen 10-06-2011 10:04 AM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1430546)
When you look at the ARod contract it hasn't run it's course, so it's hard to call it bad.
You are assuming he's done, but that may or may not be the case.
Granted I don't think he'll ever hit 50 hr with 135rbi again, but 30 100 is not unreasonable for a healthy ARod!
And that's only the on field aspect of the deal
If you start to consider other factors, it gets better.
First off, merchandising.
All those #13 tshirts and jerseys you see, the yanks get a big piece of that.
You also have to consider the ratings bonanza hr # 600 was and how big # 700,715,756 and 763 will be.
Not to mention all the additional memorabilia they will sell in relation to the chase.
Ticket sales, Gate revenue both home and away and brand exposure all go up when Arod is on the team.

For the Yanks, Arod is not a player, he's a commodity!

Yeah, because people weren't going to watch the Yankees play without A-Rod...:rolleyes:

forgop 10-06-2011 10:21 AM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1430202)
Indianapolis absolutely knew Manning may never play another down when they wrote that contract, it was common knowledge, disclosed by Peyton, his doctors and the team doctors.
Manning purposely had the Colt's proposed contract rewritten and restructured to protect the club that he loves (against his agent's wishes, of course) in the event he could no longer play, because he knew that it was realistic that he'd never play another down. All this was publicized. The club could have put Peyton on the PUP list at week two and avoided writing him a $5,000,000 paycheck that was coming due for (part of) this year. He should have been placed on the PUP, as they knew he'd not likely play a down this year, and the December rumor (that owner Jim Irsay started) was even a huge longshot. Even if he did come back this year, they weren't liable for that $5,000,000. If placed on the PUP, that would have meant he couldn't practice with the team, and they wouldn't hear of that. They literally paid five million dollars just so they could keep him in their presence.
Peyton is still on the active roster, where he will remain. This quarterback and this organization truly have a huge mutual respect and love for each other. This feel-good story between Peyton and the Colts organization is incredibly inspiring and refreshing in this time of assholes and dollar signs in the NFL. It's worth doing the legwork and reading up on it. It'll definately put a smile on anyone's face. :tu

Manning looks out for himself-don't kid yourself. If he was such a saint, maybe he signs for $10M this year and allows the Colts to pay for some decent players.

The bottom line-Payaton will get the $90M unless he retires or is actually cut by the Colts if he's no longer able to play. It is quite conceivable that he *could* do extensive rehab or have additional surgeries under the premise of getting on the field once again. Colts don't want to cut him and don't want to see him retire. The "Colts" fan base is stocked pretty high with Manning fans, but once 18 isn't around, they disappear. You see the product on the field without him and in the stands. Tickets are very cheap/available now.

Ferrari5180 10-09-2011 02:49 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Scott Gomez for the Montreal Canadiens. What a useless player. Not only can't he score, but he even blocks shots from going in.

BUC WHITE 10-09-2011 04:30 PM

Re: Worst contract in pro sports
 
Grant hill for the magic. 96 mil to be injured for 3 seasons. Great investment


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:59 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.