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replicant_argent 04-27-2009 08:25 AM

Smokers, hot/cold, infused tobacco?
 
Considering that taste and odor are the 2 main factors in enjoying food, and cigars, has anyone experimented with flavoring a smoked meat with cigar tobacco in their hot or cold smoker? I have heard of "tobacco tea" Not a good experiment, as I recall, other than as a pesticide... ;) but it might be an interesting experiment with someone who has the equipment and a variety of woods to combine with a tobacco to see if this might be a new and innovative way to smoke foods. For all I know, without doing research... this could be an "old" innovative idea and I just rebooted it through boredom.

Kwilkinson 04-27-2009 08:57 AM

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Grant Achatz had a dish ath amazing restaurant Alinea where he infused tobacco flavor into cream and serving it with blackberry and salt.
Kind of off topic, but it was an interesting dish that got a lot of wows.

bigloo 04-27-2009 03:46 PM

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Be very careful not to eat tobacco guys. Infusing the flavor I guess is OK, digested it is actually poisonous to humans.

mosesbotbol 04-28-2009 05:31 AM

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I can't imagine even cold smoking food with tobacco; would end up tasting like an ash tray.

replicant_argent 04-28-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 359415)
I can't imagine even cold smoking food with tobacco; would end up tasting like an ash tray.

Like it does in your mouth?

leasingthisspace 04-28-2009 06:19 AM

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I remeber watching a show with Anthony Boudian (sp) in it where they ate at a place in Napa called the laundry room maybe. The chef there made him marlboro infused dessert. Not sure how he did it but I know it was done. Anthony seemed to like it. I think the chef put it through a expresso machine or something like that.

LooseCard 04-28-2009 09:43 AM

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As much as I love cigars, and to smoke meat, I would never even try to do this.

The flavor of the cigar is changed when burning. You certainly cannot say that licking the cigar and smoking the cigar, provides identical tastes..?

The best is to find a cigar that compliments the smoked food that you are having. The flavors are dependant on the meat you use, along with the wood that you choose to smoke with. It also has to balance against the sauces and/or the rubs that are used.



I'd just hate to ruin good 'smoked meat' on bad flavors........

replicant_argent 04-28-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LooseCard (Post 359806)
As much as I love cigars, and to smoke meat, I would never even try to do this.

The flavor of the cigar is changed when burning. You certainly cannot say that licking the cigar and smoking the cigar, provides identical tastes..?

The best is to find a cigar that compliments the smoked food that you are having. The flavors are dependant on the meat you use, along with the wood that you choose to smoke with. It also has to balance against the sauces and/or the rubs that are used.



I'd just hate to ruin good 'smoked meat' on bad flavors........

The same could be said for using wood chips, or many other items used to flavor food.... successfully. I fully understand the epicurean principles with pairing and contrasting food. Since pairing a cigar with food is quite possible, the opportunity of finding a new technique to flavor a dish shouldn't be ignored simply because trial of one or many methods haven't obtained the desired result.

Kwilkinson 04-28-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 359828)
Since pairing a cigar with food is quite possible, the opportunity of finding a new technique to flavor a dish shouldn't be ignored simply because trial of one or many methods haven't obtained the desired result.

I agree with you entirely. But it seems only the top end chefs that dabble a bit with molecular gastronomy like Keller and Achatz are experimenting with this, but they aren't smoking, they're just infusing the flavor.

Has food been smoked using tobacco before? I'm sure it has. I just don't know of any recipes or anything like that. My chef instructors at culinary school also had not heard of it, but two of them seemed to think it'd be a good idea worth exploring. I think it would be fun to experiment with using wet tobacco instead of wood chips, for either hot or cold smoking.

livwire68 04-28-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigloo (Post 358549)
Be very careful not to eat tobacco guys. Infusing the flavor I guess is OK, digested it is actually poisonous to humans.

HUH! Thats funny I ingest it daily, the nature of chewing tobacco. Actually its the nicotine that is poisonous to people if exposed to more than most will ever see.

replicant_argent 04-29-2009 10:44 AM

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thank you.

mosesbotbol 04-29-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 359447)
Like it does in your mouth?

Yup, just like my girlfriend would say.

replicant_argent 04-29-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 361802)
Yup, just like my girlfriend would say.

Well, sometimes... there is no accounting for taste, all ego and "knowledge" aside. One upmanship is annoying, to say the least.


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