Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/index.php)
-   Sports (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=57)
-   -   Boxing Talk (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=55020)

dubnick 04-14-2012 02:13 PM

Boxing Talk
 
Any other fans of the "Sweet Science?"

Lot of decent match-ups upcoming and just seeing if there were any other fans?

icehog3 04-14-2012 03:15 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Yup, Lane, there are a few of us. If you scroll through the Sports forum there have been threads on some of the bigger fights over the last few years. I have been a fan since I was a kid, and still love boxing despite its decline to the general public.

dubnick 04-14-2012 03:23 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
I've poked around in the Sports forum and figured I'd start one up to discuss the sport in general and see what kind of responses I got.

I've also been a fan my whole life. I was raised hearing the stories of my distant cousin Kingfish fighting Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey. He never won, but he still got in the Ring.

Also, Being from Philly, there is the option of going to fights just about weekly. Also a nice scene to keep up with.

icehog3 04-14-2012 04:36 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
They still have that venue in Philly that's like a mini-Thunderdome, with the balcony hanging right over the ring?

dubnick 04-15-2012 08:26 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
That may have been the Blue Horizon... which I believe is shut down. I've seen fights recently at the Asylum Arena. (Previously the home of ECW Wrestling). The first installment of NBCSports Fight Night was hosted there. Was a great to be at.

icehog3 04-15-2012 08:29 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Blue Horizon, that was it. I would have loved to have seen some fights there. ESPN had it on Friday Night Fights quite often and it looked like a great old-time venue.

dubnick 04-15-2012 08:37 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
From the way it's talked about... It's the greatest venue that the City has ever seen. So much history in that building. I unfortunately never had the luxury of seeing a fight there.

icehog3 05-02-2012 04:51 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...nhancing-drugs

I call "bullshit". Big Mouth is scared. :2

Pseudosacred 05-02-2012 05:02 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
He's been accusing him of using PED's since last year. He's a big mouthed punk.

Cotto is going to put him down on Saturday and when Manny gets to him...I can only imagine how badly that'll end...

dubnick 05-02-2012 07:44 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
I agree Tom... "Money" is scared of Pac Man... But I believe it goes the other way as well. I feel that both fighters feel they are the best in the world, and are scared that a loss to the other one would destroy that.

As far as Saturday... I'm pulling for Cotto... But at +450 I don't think Vegas agrees with me. I'm also looking forward to the Alverez vs. Mosely fight.

icehog3 05-02-2012 08:22 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Lane, I agree with that a loss to either, by either, would be considered a stain. Big Mouth feels he has too much to lose because he is undefeated, but I will always remember his for ducking Manny, not being undefeated.

Nick, while I will be rooting heavily for Cotto, I will be suprised if he wins. Pleasantly suprised, though. :)

Pseudosacred 05-02-2012 08:37 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
I've been a big Cotto fan ever since I first saw him at Boardwalk Hall...like 3 years ago. The first time I saw him he won the WBA welterweight over Quintana. I just kind of had this feeling about him...that he would just become a power house. His right hand made Quintana quiver, even when it hit his glove. That's pretty uncommon in Welterweights.

I hate that he's been called a has-been, although it's a little bit true. His fight against Margarito, he dominated and that was a great thing to watch. He came back in with power and ring savvy...not really stamina, but that's alright.

I hate Mayweather. There is nothing good about an undefeated fighter (Anderson Silva (MMA) is a cocky m'effer and I resent that.) Floyd has a big mouth, but he can back it up, I just hope it's Cotto that beats him. That would be a glorious thing. I have almost no doubt that, if Cotto doesn't, Pac will. Pac is the best boxer in the world, in my opinion. Mayweather will pay for his verbal harrassment towards him when they fight...I'd almost guaruntee that.

icehog3 05-03-2012 01:28 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudosacred (Post 1630107)
Floyd has a big mouth, but he can back it up,

While I understand the statement because he is undefeated, until he fights Manny, I question it.

racerX 05-03-2012 07:34 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
I'm going out Saturday night so I can't watch it live
Anybody seen a trend as far as replays go?
Sometimes HBO will play it again the following Saturday night but they never announce it before hand because they want the pay per view.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Mosley fight was better than the fight with bigmouth.

dubnick 05-03-2012 07:52 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
No idea on the replay... And I think Alverez will destroy Mosley... And then possibly move on to fight Cotto. That would be a good one IMHO.

GreekGodX 05-03-2012 08:27 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Another big boxing fan here :)

Pulling for Money Mayweather on Saturday to stay undefeated. He needs to fight Manny Pacquiao, his legacy will be tarnished if he does not. Manny looked very beatable the last fight he was in. I don't think the timing will work out though for them to fight this year.

blugill 05-03-2012 08:43 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Man, Friday Night Fights on ESPN!
Loved that show!
I think the best thirty rounds I've ever seen in were the three fights between Irish Mickey Ward and Thunder Gatti! (rest in peace) Good lord those guys put it all out there!

dubnick 05-03-2012 08:51 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Lately the FNF Bouts have been one sided and weak IMHO. Every so often there's a good one. ShoBox on Showtime has been putting out some solid prospect fights.

dubnick 05-09-2012 07:59 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Khan vs Peterson II canceled due to Peterson testing positive for a banned substance. I was really looking forward to this one.

icehog3 05-28-2012 06:19 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Bad day for boxing.

Paul Williams, a former middleweight champ, was paralyzed from the waist down after being in a motorcycle crash. Just last week Williams had signed for a major fight. He was due to challenge junior middleweight titlist Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on Sept. 17 in the main event of a pay-per-view card at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Williams, who was wearing his helmet, rode out of his lane to avoid a car that was moving into his lane, but that another car was coming toward him in the other direction. Peterson said Williams swerved to avoid the oncoming car, wound up riding up a steep embankment and lost control of the motorcycle before flying several feet in the air and landing on his back on the road.

Williams, 30, is scheduled to have surgery Wednesday to stabilize the portion of his spinal chord that is intact and allows him to move his hands, arms, torso and head.

"The other part of his spinal chord is damaged and has eliminated his lower body movement," his manager said.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The second sad story, Johnny Tapia, the five-time boxing champion whose turbulent career was marked by cocaine addiction, alcohol, depression and run-ins with the law, was found dead Sunday at his Albuquerque home. He was 45. The death didn't appear to be suspicious.

dubnick 05-30-2012 06:18 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Very sad day indeed.

GreekGodX 05-31-2012 04:30 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Mayweather starts his jail sentence tomorrow. 87 days.

icehog3 11-21-2012 08:55 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Sad news this morning.

Quote:

Former world boxing champion Hector "Macho" Camacho went into cardiac arrest Wednesday morning and is on life support after being shot in the face Tuesday outside of San Juan, Puerto Rico.

"The situation with 'Macho' is very delicate," Centro Medico director Dr. Ernesto Torres told reporters during a 7 a.m. media briefing on Wednesday. "The prognosis is not good."

Dave128 11-21-2012 08:59 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Very sad news. What happened that he got shot in the face and his buddy was killed? I saw this morning that his mom was on her way to the hopital. She was supposed to be making the decision of taking him off of life support or not.

Dave128 11-21-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Here's part of an article I just found:

Quote:

Torres said that two specialists will examine the boxer to determine his level of brain activity.

The specialists will then consult with other doctors and Camacho's mother, who was expected to arrive from New York, to discuss whether he should be removed from life support, said Ismael Leandry, a longtime friend and former manager who was also at the hospital.

"We just have to wait to see if `Macho' gets better. It's a hard battle," Leandry told AP.

The 50-year-old Camacho was outside a bar in a parked Ford Mustang with a friend when he was shot in the face. The friend, identified as 49-year-old Adrian Mojica Moreno, was killed, police said. No arrests have been made and no motive has been disclosed.

Camacho was rushed to Centro Medico, where doctors initially said he was fortunate in that the bullet passed through his head and lodged in his shoulder. Torres did warn, however, that the boxer, who was trailed by drug and alcohol problems during a career that included some high-profile bouts, could be paralyzed from the shooting.

icehog3 12-08-2012 12:20 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Dropped the cash to order Pacquiao vs. Marquez 4. Three great fights, all close and action packed, hoping this one will live up to the legacy. The 24/7 series hooked me, I was on the fence about paying for this one.

P.S....I am actually rooting for Marquez this time, but moreso hoping for a great fight.

Ashcan Bill 12-08-2012 02:44 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1761344)
Dropped the cash to order Pacquiao vs. Marquez 4. Three great fights, all close and action packed, hoping this one will live up to the legacy. The 24/7 series hooked me, I was on the fence about paying for this one.

P.S....I am actually rooting for Marquez this time, but moreso hoping for a great fight.

Rocky IV? ;)

I'm leaning the same way toward Marquez. I think the judges have handed him some bad breaks in the past. But it's up to him to beat Manny decisively, or not.

And if my wife and her family hear I'm not rooting for Manny, I'll be on the canvas.

icehog3 12-09-2012 02:04 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1761344)
P.S....I am actually rooting for Marquez this time, but moreso hoping for a great fight.

The fight lived up to the hype, even though it was over sooner than I had hoped. Marquez scored a vicious "true" knockout of Paquiao at 2:59 of the 5th round...I was sincerely concerned that Paquiao was severely hurt for a couple minutes.

The ultimate redemption for Marquez, who easily could have been given the decisions in all3 of their previous bouts.

It will be interesting to see where Manny goes from here....and what excuses Bigmouth Floyd will use to avoid fighting Marquez. ;)

racerX 12-10-2012 03:19 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Great Great fight. I was worried about the PAC man as well. That was on hell of a brawl. No dancing around, just a battle and a flurry of power punches every round.

N2 GOLD 12-10-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1761720)
The fight lived up to the hype, even though it was over sooner than I had hoped. Marquez scored a vicious "true" knockout of Paquiao at 2:59 of the 5th round...I was sincerely concerned that Paquiao was severely hurt for a couple minutes.

The ultimate redemption for Marquez, who easily could have been given the decisions in all3 of their previous bouts.
It will be interesting to see where Manny goes from here....and what excuses Bigmouth Floyd will use to avoid fighting Marquez. ;)

Agree, this was a good fight. Looks like Pac-Man has a future in planking... :r :r

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...YW4aU7FZIMqpmA

icehog3 12-11-2012 12:26 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N2 GOLD (Post 1762527)
Agree, this was a good fight. Looks like Pac-Man has a future in planking... :r :r

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...YW4aU7FZIMqpmA

I am just happy that Manny's CAT scan came back negative, he is still a class act.

GreekGodX 12-11-2012 04:11 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1762791)
I am just happy that Manny's CAT scan came back negative, he is still a class act.

I thought he for sure suffered some kind of injury from that hit. It was a scary moment when he wasn't moving at all.

Hoping this fight doesn't hinder any chance of a Mayweather/Pacquaio fight. 50cent as a promoter now may help because he has been working with Arum to get fights.

Gophernut 12-11-2012 07:32 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1762791)
I am just happy that Manny's CAT scan came back negative, he is still a class act.

Agree 100%. He is the type of sportsman that this sport needs to keep it, or get back towards, relevance.

icehog3 12-11-2012 08:54 AM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
From what I understand, Bigmouth Floyd and 50Cent had a big falling out a couple months ago, so I don't think that will help much in the forseeable future, Son. :(

icehog3 03-10-2013 11:35 PM

Re: Boxing Talk
 
Saturday, Bernard Hopkins became the oldest man to win a legitimate title at age 48.

Not since Chris Chelios retired have I had so much hope for us old guys. :r


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.