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mhailey 12-02-2015 01:10 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Adam,

This link has good descriptions of the various tobaccos used in pipe blends as well as the various cuts of tobacco (flake, shag, plug, ...).

When you hear "English blend" it is not aromatic, and has latakia as a main "flavor" of the blend.

VaPer is a mixture of Virginias and Perique (I like these blends. peppery).

Aromatics can taste like anything (maple pancakes, rum, berries, ...).

OTC blends are great go-to blends for everyday smoking. (Prince Albert, Captain Black, Half and Half ...) They are typically Burley blends (which go great with a cup of coffee).

CoffeeWaterBeer 12-02-2015 01:11 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Not to my knowledge Adam. What many find helpful is tobaccoreviews.com. Granted you need to take the reviews with a grain of salt (this is the internet so that goes without saying). Sample as much as you can to roughly shape out what you like, then find reviewers that seem to have similar tastes so you have something you can at least rely on a bit. Another thing is to PM me your address and taste whatever shows up on your doorstep. :)

Edit: Good info from Matt. Keep in mind not all Englishes are full on campfire smoke bombs, there's a lot of play between different blends. Add to that the smoke qualities of a blend in pipes of different shapes/sizes. There's a lot of room to play around and hone in what works best for you.

AdamJoshua 12-02-2015 05:14 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Thanks Matt and Seth, I was looking at that site and I think just knowing the basics as you listed them is a great start, I've read so many threads here that I've already forgotten half of what I read. :lr

Well with Steve's bomb I think I have about 30 different blends and tobaccos to try :lr

mahtofire14 12-02-2015 06:42 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
I've got my tobacco rehumidifying now thanks to your advice guys. Realized I had a lot more than I knew I had. I got 12 samples of various well known tobacco from a noob PIF pass I received a while back on here. Some real nice 5-6 oz samples. Got jars for those as well as pint jars for the couple other tins I have. Also have an order coming in Friday. Can't wait to start trying these again. The lakes are just about frozen over so I will be sampling these while out ice fishing. Thanks for the help getting me back on track guys!

mahtofire14 12-02-2015 07:19 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire14 (Post 2064162)
I've got my tobacco rehumidifying now thanks to your advice guys. Realized I had a lot more than I knew I had. I got 12 samples of various well known tobacco from a noob PIF pass I received a while back on here. Some real nice 5-6 oz samples. Got jars for those as well as pint jars for the couple other tins I have. Also have an order coming in Friday. Can't wait to start trying these again. The lakes are just about frozen over so I will be sampling these while out ice fishing. Thanks for the help getting me back on track guys!

My noobness shining through. I believe the sample I received are more like an A half oz or so. Still a nice start.

AdamJoshua 12-02-2015 09:34 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Well I should have watched the videos of loading the bowl, the false light, the tamp ... didn't though, first bowl was kind of a fail, I used some Entertainer ribbon cut that I got at the local shop, kept going out of course and did not take long to burn through it, seems I put about 1/3 of what I should have put and it wasn't loaded down enough. Now I know though :tu :lr

Ok question, I got some tobacco at the B & M and it's at a certain moisture level, some of the samples that Steve blasted me with are all over the moisture spectrum, do you smoke different mixes at different humidity levels or is it like cigars you find a level that works for you and you smoke all of your tobaccos at that same humidity level?

mahtofire14 12-02-2015 10:36 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Don't get discouraged. It will get better with practice. I have a lot of work to do on my loading skills as well. I have found many helpful videos online where a guy goes step by step loading the pipe and lighting it.

AdamJoshua 12-02-2015 10:59 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Yah Pete, that's what I've been watching and not discouraged at all, I kind of think the learning is all part of the fun.

mahtofire14 12-02-2015 11:30 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2064186)
Yah Pete, that's what I've been watching and not discouraged at all, I kind of think the learning is all part of the fun.

100% agree. Much like cutting and lighting a cigar for the first few times.

CoffeeWaterBeer 12-03-2015 05:47 AM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
To answer your moisture question, you will acquire a feel for what's too wet/dry. Some blends are purposefully left drier (a few Pease blends come to mind) while others will need an hour or more sitting out to dry to an acceptable burn level ( certain flakes taking longer due to the density of the compressed leaf) . With cigars we have the luxury of finding our preferred Rh and getting beads that keep our sticks at that level. With pipe tobacco, unless you rotate a small digi hygrometer between your jarred blends, you will have to learn to eyeball what works. Once jarred though, you wont have to worry about "upkeep". I use half pint jars and never do they dry out if kept sealed.

I hope that answered your question, please let em know if I danced around it and missed what you're looking for.

stevieray 12-03-2015 06:02 AM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2064181)
Well I should have watched the videos of loading the bowl, the false light, the tamp ... didn't though, first bowl was kind of a fail, I used some Entertainer ribbon cut that I got at the local shop, kept going out of course and did not take long to burn through it, seems I put about 1/3 of what I should have put and it wasn't loaded down enough. Now I know though :tu :lr

Ok question, I got some tobacco at the B & M and it's at a certain moisture level, some of the samples that Steve blasted me with are all over the moisture spectrum, do you smoke different mixes at different humidity levels or is it like cigars you find a level that works for you and you smoke all of your tobaccos at that same humidity level?

As a general rule for me and personal preference, I like to dry out my pipe tobacco on a paper plate for 30 minutes or longer before filling the pipe. Aromatics and other baccy that have been topped or cased tend to be more wet. Higher moisture content leads to moisture in the bowl and "gurgle" when heated along with the need for several relights while smoking. Most of the tobacco I sent you has been resting in my cellar in mason jars for over 2 years. Some however, like the Balkan Sobranie and Germain's Special Latakia Flake, were fresh out of the tin. While they are not aro's, baccy right out of the tin tends to be wet and needs a little drying time. The Devil's Holiday aromatic has been in a mason jar for almost 2 years and was left open to dry for a while before cellaring and it's still wet. Pipe tobacco moisture content preference is just something you kind of figure out and get a feel for as you go along with trial and error. Good luck, and remember...don't pack the pipe...just fill it. :pi

P.S. Look up the "Frank Method" of filling a pipe on youtube. It helped me out when I first started off. :tu

AdamJoshua 12-03-2015 07:49 AM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Nope, thanks Seth!

mahtofire14 12-03-2015 03:33 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Guys last night I rehydrated my tobacco and just got home after working a 16 hr double, to find some nice soft, velvety tobacco. The wet towel method worked great! I let it sit out for a bit just in case they were too wet and have jarred it up. Feel like I almost know what I'm doing! Can't wait to pack a bowl later tonight.
http://rs262.pbsrc.com/albums/ii91/d...h=480&fit=clip

AdamJoshua 12-04-2015 05:22 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Tobacco Q: So I'm probably being paranoid over what to smoke in what pipe, but I read that aromatics and briar don't mix well (at least some people's opinions) that they can take on too much of the flavoring. I am looking up some of the tobaccos on http://www.tobaccoreviews.com and one of the categories is "Flavoring" if it's not an aromatic then there would be no favoring listed correct?


Edit : Never mind I see the Blend Type parameter.

mahtofire14 12-31-2015 01:44 AM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
This may be a dumb question but I'm looking at ordering new stems for a couple of estate pipes that I can't seem to improve. How do you go about measuring these so you know that they will fit. Also I would like to get the same stems so would I go through the manufacturer of the pipe to get these?

Bax 01-13-2018 03:49 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
My old man just passed on a pipe that he received from my grandmother about 30 years ago. Thus begins my journey down the piping road. I would like to know any suggestions for some tobacco. I've been a cigar smoker for years but have never tried a pipe. Any places online you'd recommend for some samplers would be much appreciated.

Havanaaddict 09-20-2022 01:38 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Ok I am thinking about dipping my toe into the pipe smoking world. I am a CC only smoker and LOVE them but with the way prices are going I am thinking of adding in a pipe. I know I am going to have to slow way down, I smoke a Robusto in 30 min. The question I have is if I pick up a pipe if I start with trying Aromatics tobacco in the pipe do I need to stay with Aromatics in that pipe.?

I tend to have a sweet tooth, I like sweet & rich flavors.
I do like Punch and Cohiba cigars (the vanilla & citrus) CCs

I may end up realizing that I like Non - Aromatics

markem 09-20-2022 01:50 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
I suggest that you start with a straight virginia. Virginia is a sweeter tobacco and relatively mild. When you are thinking of buying one, check out the specs for it at https://www.tobaccoreviews.com/.

You can also look into samplers. Good sites to ask beginner questions are pipesmokersdens.com and pipesmagazine.com. Unfortunately, CA doesn't have a great depth with regards to pipes anymore.

Mind you, others will pop in. Adam recently fell down the slope big time and has a wealth of experience buying pipe tobacco he isn't really fond of. :noon

Havanaaddict 09-20-2022 01:56 PM

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Thanks Mark:tu

MarkinAZ 09-20-2022 03:08 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Havanaaddict (Post 2238575)
I may end up realizing that I like Non - Aromatics

I was a bit outraged earlier in the year when Habano SA decided to use Hong Kong to set their benchmark on prices for Cohiba' and other CC'. Not sure who' going to be shelling out $1K plus for a box, but...

Welcome to the pipe world! This is my three cents when it comes to just starting out. You need to get one of these:

A Missouri Meerschaum Corn Cob: https://corncobpipe.com/product/boone-corn-cob-pipe/

Knowing you in the past and the cigars you smoke, I would recommend the following blends to start off with:

Amphora Virginia blend. I think you'll find the blend rewarding: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/278505

Sutliff 707 Sweet Virginia: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/107483 or...

Sutliff 505C Virginia Flake: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/127345

The 707 is pretty much the rubbed-out version of the 505C.

Sutliff 515 RC-1 Red Virginia: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/250855

Sutliff 507-S Stoved Virginia: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/250792

I would probably take about 10g' of 515 and 507 and mix really well. Then place the mixture into a one pint wide mouth Kerr/Ball jar for about three months to marry. Burping the jar once every two weeks to age the mixture, and see what you think after the three month period.

One more I'd recommend would be...

Amphora Burley blend: https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-to...duct_id/326507

I forget where you reside in the SoCal area, but you may want to peruse a good B&M in your area that carries Sutliff Bulk and the Amphora blends (if they do) to maybe support them in the start of your pipe journey. They should also carry the Missouri Meerschaums too.

Good luck and we'll be here to support you and make sure you slide hard down this other slope :tu


PS - I forgot to mention that the Warped Cloud Hopper pipe tobacco blend in the 2oz tin is a darn good smoke too.

markem 09-20-2022 03:33 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
I agree with Mark's list. I tend more towards English and Balkan. A nice list, once you get your foot in the door is at

https://pipesmokersdens.com/threads/...-revised.1117/

What the people at PSD consider the gold standard of each type. If you are interested in one, dump the name into google and then select the link to a place like tobaccoreviews.com to get more information.

physiognomy 09-20-2022 04:43 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Havanaaddict (Post 2238575)
… The question I have is if I pick up a pipe if I start with trying Aromatics tobacco in the pipe do I need to stay with Aromatics in that pipe.?

It depends on you and the Aro. Definitely maybe. Some ‘ghosting’ will occur, but can often fade with cleaning or smoking oher blends. If you are ok with that, it’s all good. Honestly, most common Aromatics won’t ring your bell, Mark. Plenty of good recommendations already. Try everything, but I recommend a simple over-the-counter burley (E.g. Carter Hall) to learn pipe smoking - fill/pack, light, tamp, puff, light, tamp, light, puff, light, etc :) Quickly becomes easy, but some help there is a good idea when starting. Also leave tobacco out to ‘dry’ for an hour or two before smoking (think ‘dry-boxing’).

I find a bowl or two of a Lakeland (medium-stout Virginia and or/burley base with floral topping - yes, think grandma powdery-floral - they are delicious!) will stick for good while and that’s all I taste. Some regular OTC sweet vanilla Aro may fade quickly after a couple bowls of a smoky English/Balkan blend.

As recommended, some folks start with a few cob pipes for this reason. I like them a lot, but find there’s a break in period (any new pipe, really) that can affect initial impressions. Stick with it and try to stop early bowls before the very bottom (burns raw shank inside bowl - normal, tastes ‘woody’) Still, a good way to try different things. Dye the outside black if you don’t want to look like a hillbilly ;)

MarkinAZ 09-20-2022 04:59 PM

Re: New Pipe Smoker With A Question? Ask an Old Fart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by physiognomy (Post 2238581)
if you don’t want to look like a hillbilly ;)

Gotta go hillbilly sometimes;)

https://i.imgur.com/Zt7hQll.jpg


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