Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/index.php)
-   Sports (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=57)
-   -   Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14763)

MedicCook 04-28-2009 04:39 PM

Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
The Albany Firebirds have offered Michale Vick a contract.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=794745

WildBlueSooner 04-28-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
I like that the contract requires him to donate to the Humane Society!

Whee 04-28-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Meh, arenafootball2. That's like Go-Karts vs Nascar.

MedicCook 04-28-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
The Firebirds are desperate. They are on the verge of folding and need something big to save the franchise.

blugill 04-28-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
No NFL team will want that baggage. There will be protests, season ticket holders turn in their tickets, and lots of bad publicity.

Vick is done and this might be as good as he will be able to do. It isn't like he was that great of a QB anyway, a couple of years of prison really haven't honed his skills.

white_s2k 04-28-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 360419)
No NFL team will want that baggage. There will be protests, season ticket holders turn in their tickets, and lots of bad publicity.

Vick is done and this might be as good as he will be able to do. It isn't like he was that great of a QB anyway, a couple of years of prison really haven't honed his skills.

Unfortunately, that is what our society has turned into. What is the point of receiving and completing a punishment for breaking a law in this society if once you have completed the punishment you still are not allowed to live a productive and normal life. Our system is set up to punish you for the rest of your life if you have ever even been suspected of committing a crime. It is actually pretty sad if you think about it. :2

blugill 04-28-2009 04:58 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
If the NFL reinstates him then it is open season for the teams to see who wants to take a chance on him.
Punishment, forgiveness, and apologies aside it is still a business and I really doubt anyone would want to invest seven figures into an average QB with declining skills. His shelf life was limited and now it is fast approaching the expiration date.

MedicCook 04-28-2009 05:00 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
It is going to be like when Mike Tyson got out of prison. He was never the same fighter losing those prime years from his career.

white_s2k 04-28-2009 05:01 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 360428)
If the NFL reinstates him then it is open season for the teams to see who wants to take a chance on him.
Punishment, forgiveness, and apologies aside it is still a business and I really doubt anyone would want to invest seven figures into an average QB with declining skills. His shelf life was limited and now it is fast approaching the expiration date.

If he can prove himself on the field, I see no reason why a NFL team shouldn't sign him. The opinion of him being "average" is debatable, but I think the guy has paid his dues and should be given a second chance if his talent is seen as worth it to a franchise.

WildBlueSooner 04-28-2009 05:02 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
I believe that some NFL team will take him. Will he be anything like the old Vick? I say 50/50. Would I want him? Hell no!

Whee 04-28-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 360414)
The Firebirds are desperate. They are on the verge of folding and need something big to save the franchise.

Didn't they fold up once before? I thought the AFL franchise moved to Indiana?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 360435)
I believe that some NFL team will take him. Will he be anything like the old Vick? I say 50/50. Would I want him? Hell no!

Somebody will take him. PacMan Jones. Tank Johnson. An owner will take him for the attention it will generate.

MedicCook 04-28-2009 05:09 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illinoishoosier (Post 360439)
Didn't they fold up once before? I thought the AFL franchise moved to Indiana?

Albany had an AFL team that left and the next year they started with AF2. They went back to the Firebirds name for this season to try and save the franchise. At 0-5 it is not working.

blugill 04-28-2009 05:37 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_s2k (Post 360433)
If he can prove himself on the field, I see no reason why a NFL team shouldn't sign him. The opinion of him being "average" is debatable, but I think the guy has paid his dues and should be given a second chance if his talent is seen as worth it to a franchise.

Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

white_s2k 04-28-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 360496)
Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

Since when has Vick ever been known as a great passer? He made big plays with his legs not his arm. He was like that his entire NFL career.. nothing new.

WildBlueSooner 04-28-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 360496)
Vick had 71 TDs, 52 INTs, and a 53.8 completion rate over his career with 20 TDs being his best and he threw 13 INTs in his last season. I think average sums it up.

True but I don't think it is his passing numbers that people like about him. Are his passing numbers average..yes. The guy can make plays on the ground...a scrambling machine!

chippewastud79 04-28-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Michael Vick, if reinstated, will get a chance in the NFL and there are likely a number of teams who will give him that shot, unless he comes out of prison at 300lbs and can't hold onto a football, which it doesn't sound like. You can't teach the athletic skill he has and he has paid his debt to society and will have this over his head for the rest of his career. For 700K (or so) someone will let him play, he will be the fastest #3 QB in the league. Even if it doesn't happen before training camp, look for a team to pick him up once QB's start getting hurt. :tu

blugill 04-28-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
In his last season he had a grand total of 2 rushing TDs and 9 fumbles.
His career rushing stats are 21 TDs and 55 fumbles....

GreekGodX 04-28-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Someone will take a chance. They won't have to pay him big money. Just the veterans minimum. I just doubt he will be able to play QB anywhere. Maybe a switch to another position will help get more teams interested.

chippewastud79 04-28-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 360508)
In his last season he had a grand total of 2 rushing TDs and 9 fumbles.
His career rushing stats are 21 TDs and 55 fumbles....

21 TD's and 19 fumbles for his rushing career :confused:

And 2 TD's with 4 fumbles and rushed for over 1000 yards in 2006

27 lost fumbles in 74 career games


According to NFL.com :hm

blugill 04-28-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Albany Firebirds offer Michael Vick a contract
 
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...Mi00.htm?redir


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.