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Season starts tonight for UK! GO BIG BLUE!!!!:banger

Unfortunately we could lose our first two games. Yikes.

Who does everyone root for and what are you expectations for the season?

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Thank God somebody else started this, though I wonder if Robert knows how much work it can be to keep it going.

Me, I root for the REAL Blue, my Tar Heels, as I'm one born, bred, matriculated, and graduated. I expect them to contend with NCSU, Dook, and FSU for the ACC, and make the NCAAs as a 3-to-5 seed. Considering how much they lost to graduation and the NBA, how much they will depend upon underclassmen, and how they shall likely change from an interior to a perimeter team, that's all I can reasonably ask.

And since I'm a Tar Heel, I am reasonable . . . unlike the typical UK fan. :r

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I am very reasonable thank you.

And I probably don't have a clue how much work it is to keep the thread going. Guess I will find out soon!

P.S. No one will depend on underclassmen as much as UK :r:r:r

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Well, didn't take long to get an upset! We had two tonight! MSU goes down to UCONN in Germany. However, I don't think its time for MSU fans to panic. Izzo is a tournament man so no worries.

I was unable to watch the other upset, so I don't have a clue what happened yet. South Alabama took down (soon to be former)#25 FSU.

UK. Soft as charmin? I realize some of the offensive rebounds were because of long rebounds, but they straight up out hustled UK on the boards. And UK played like a bunch of....you guessed it.....freshman! Most important player of the game for UK.....Jarrod Polson! Unbelievable! No one saw that coming. Coach Cal said he had no worries if Polson had to log PG minutes, but no one really believed it. The Terps gave them a good fight, but couldn't close out the third upset of the night. Go Cats!!!

Alabama, Alabama, Alabama.......slightly excessive celebration for beating South Dakota State at the buzzer.

Your #1 Hoosiers spanked Bryant U. Who? Exactly.:r

Good night of basketball so far. So glad the season is back:banger

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Almost forgot Shabazz is currently ineligble for UCLA. Wonder what the final game count will be?

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MCS

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Hmmm, pretty sure IU is the one with NCAA issues right now.

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Yeah, that bumper sticker was a bad choice. I mean, they should have known they would be adopting 2 future IU players 21 years ago.


MCS

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You want to crack jokes about violations, when your team is the one with ineligible players, the latest one coming off probation and your coach knowingly committed a recruiting violation last year or something I think? I don't understand some people.

Coach Cal have a checkered past? Yep
Been in trouble at UK? Nope

Let me guess, the other shoe will drop soon :r
Or do you prefer, where there is smoke, there is fire?

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Anyways, had to turn the UCLA game off. Was too boring.

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My Heels got past a pesky and experienced Gardner-Webb 76-59, but it would have been a blowout without their 18 TOs, 1-12 from 3, and 9-19 from the stripe. I imagine Roy will have them running two-a-days. :r

Had the Terps been able to shoot a little in the 1st half, Robert's 'Cats would have gone down . . . and not in a good way. It's funny that the little bit of experience on UK's bench saved the day for the hyper-hyped freshmen. If nothing else, maybe this one will make Cal shut his face about his boys going 40-0 . . . for a week or two anyway. :D

I feel no sympathy for UCLA about losing Shabazz Muhammad. Every school was warned beforehand to be wary of recruiting that guy. Can anybody say (or spell) "Enes Kanter"? :r

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Princeton takes Buffalo in a close one, 57-53. I see a few more games that could be good too:

Portland vs. Ohio U
Evansville vs. Notre Dame
UCF vs. South Florida
Northern Arizona vs. Oregon


Re the U. Conn win over the Spartans, that situation in Storrs is one of the stories I'll find interesting this year; namely, what will the Huskies do post-Calhoun?

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Did you see the blatant 10 second violation towards the end of the game that they didn't call against UK? Pretty big miss.

And Cal never said specifically this team would go 40-0. Just that he wants one of his teams to do it. I don't see it happening but who knows.

Speaking of uconn, anyone else find it odd they gave the new coach such a short contract?

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Sorry, didn't see the 10-sec non-call. Hey, $#!+ happens, and they need to remember this when a call goes the other way . . . as will happen.

Me, I can't see ANY team going unbeaten these days. Murray State came close during their regular season last year, but you had to know that, even if they'd manage that, they wouldn't run the table in the NCAAs.

U Conn? I found the whole situation odd. What coach leaving under a cloud (or even not) is granted the power to name his successor, no matter how short a contract?

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My Heels take care of Florida Atlantic, as expected, in their last home game this month. They owned the boards, but still shot poorly from the field and stripe. This could be a big problem as they fly off to Maui for the Invitational, and WILL be one if not corrected before they go to Bloomington to face #1 Indiana.

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Haven't been able to watch the games for a couple of days. Anyone going to watch most of the tip off marathon? Starts at midnight.

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Gonna watch any hoops tonight? I understand Duke's gonna be playin' some lame-@$$ team from Kentuck.

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Damn no good Kanetuck team :r:r

KU vs MSU game was good.

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Thats about what I expected. Saw some promise, but I can't believe how bad the D would sag into the paint. You can't do that against Duke and everyone knows it. Good to see Poythress get his head into the game. Guys got a lot of talent, he just needs more desire/drive.

Wiljier has no business playing if he isn't scoring. Watching him on D is incredibly frustrating. Mays was a disappointment for being the oldest guy on the team. And Goodwin can not be the answer to a PG right now, maybe ever. The man just wants to score. And thats completely fine if Harrow ends up panning out at PG.

Anyways, rebounding was better. They played with more energy. Slowly learning how they will need to play.

Duke still floppin like a fish out of water :r:r They definitely played better than UK though.

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I did not see the game, but I have rarely seen a "flop" which did not come with some contact from the other guy. Hey, you survive against a "meh" Maryland team, possibly with the help of a bad non-whistle to your benefit (according to your own admission), and now you object - laughingly or not - when the whistle's blown? No offense, but that's karma baby.

Hopefully, you won't pull a Calipari, who complained about the "flops" at halftime, then denied he remembered saying anything about that 30 minutes later. :r


Possible good games tonight include Wisconsin @ Florida, Santa Clara @ Saint Louis, and UAB @ Creighton.

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I do think Duke flops more than most. Thats my opinion and I will stick to it. Wiltjier for UK started flopping last year and I couldn't stand it. Some people call it savvy play if you can get the foul. Good for them.

The whistles are NOT why UK lost that game. They were out played. Duke was the better team. How many UK fans do you know who will admit that? :r:r

Watching the Florida game. Don't know if I will catch any others.

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Duke is well-known for winning by their defense, and some of that is based upon hustling and helping on switches to draw the charge. If you want to consider that flopping, feel free. (And remember, this comes from a Tar Heel, who's seen a damn sight more of this than any UK fan, so if I can accept it I don't see why Calipari can't.)

Of course, the best way to avoid this in the future would be to stop playing in Cameron . . . much like he refused to play in Freedom Hall after Indiana beat them LAST year. :r

Florida handled Wisconsin easily, 74-56. Other interesting scores last night:

Georgetown 68 - Liberty 59 = Not a very strong statement from a Big East team here.

Fresno State 39 - UC Riverside 30 = Which type of field goals was this won/lost by? :D

Already today Oklahoma State escaped the Akron Zips 69-65 in OT, while Tennessee did much the same against NC-Asheville 75-68. Parity, or poor performance by the big conferences? Other action coming:

Baylor vs. Boston College = The last score I saw, the Eagles were up a deuce over the Bears 43-41 at the break.

N. C. State vs. Penn State = Is the Wolfpack as good as predictions? This may not tell us "yes", yet could tell us "no".

St. John's vs. Charleston = In Charleston, and between teams that should be fairly closely matched. May be fun.

Alabama vs. Oregon State = Also has potential.

Providence vs. U Mass = Here too.

Chattanooga vs. Kansas = Can the Jayhawks bounce back after their loss to the Spartans? I'd bet on it, even were it NOT in Allen Fieldhouse . . . which it is.

SMU vs. TCU = Op. cit.

Murray State vs. Auburn = Will the Racers have the same dash as last year? As with NCSU/PSU, the Tigers may not be able to tell us much.

Southern Miss vs. Georgia = I just got me a feeling on this one.

Valparaiso vs. Nebraska = And I don't think either one of these are all that good . . . which may give us a good contest.

Villanova vs. Purdue = Both teams disappointed fans last year. Neither wants to do so again.

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Heels make a stop at Long Beach State tonight on their way to Maui. They had to struggle to beat them the last two times, both in Chapel Hill. However, this is NOT the same Long Beach team as then. However however, this is ALSO not the same UNC team as then then either . . . either.

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Just as I figured, the 49ers gave my Heels all they wanted and more, at least in the first half. But UNC wore them down and pulled away after the break for a 78-63 win to start their long roadtrip. A decent W against a scrappy team which broke their 23-game home winning streak, and hopefully was a good learning process for the young Heels.

A few things about the game NOT on the court. Seeing as how this was one of the biggest "names" to ever play on their court, LBSU raised ticket prices to $70, yet even though they added 2000 extra seats with temporary bleachers (thus shattering their attendance record), they still could not fulfill demand. More significantly for me, and one of the reasons I'm such a Tar Heel, is the fact that 49er coach Don Monson didn't expect the game to even happen. See, Roy adopted and continues a policy begun by Dean Smith, one of scheduling an away game close to a player's hometown, as a reward to the player and to more easily allow friends and family to see him play live in Carolina blue. Well, this one was planned to be the "homecoming" for the Wear twins, who left UNC to play for UCLA instead after their freshman year. Because of this, Monson just assumed Roy would not be showing up in Long Beach, and was thus shocked when a signed contract appeared in his mailbox. He call Roy to ask him if he was certain he still wanted to uphold this verbal committment, to which Roy replied he of course did, since if he didn't he would feel as if he'd done much the same thing the Wear boys did when THEY left, and he did not want to be that guy.

You don't like Roy Williams' "aww shucks" demeanor? OK, so screw you . . . you just don't get it. Realize this: The state motto of North Carolina is Esse Quam Videri . . . To be, rather than to seem. If we all lived by this, it would be a better world.

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That was cool of him to do :tu

I haven't been able to catch a UNC game yet. Curious to see how they look this year.

I'm really slacking in here already. :r Been a little busy and watching an unusually low amount of games. Time to get back on the horse

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Two scores I found of interest over the weekend:


Okla. State 76 - N. C. State 56 = The Wolfpack was projected by the "experts" to be the favorite in the ACC this year, supplanting more traditional powers like UNC and Duke. Yet not only did the Cowboys beat them, they ran them off the court. Not a great sign for the long-suffering faithful in Raleigh.

U Conn 89 - Quinnipiac 83 (2OT) = When the Huskies pulled off the upset to start their season, people thought they might be much better than expected. Two weeks later, it takes them an extra 10 minutes to dispatch a perennial cupcake by a few buckets only. As I said earlier, I'm very intrigued by what will happen in Storrs this year.


My Heels open up in the Maui Invitational tonight against Mississippi State. Being a young team as they are, I'd normally expect a challenge here, so far away from home. But reports are that, due to injuries and suspensions, MSU will have only 6 scholarship players available. However, their coach says that he knows the Heels will want to run, and he intends to run with them. Well, maybe they can do that for 40 minutes, and maybe not. We shall see.

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Going to be switching between IU vs. UGA and UNC vs. MSU :tu

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My Heels had no problem at all with an undermanned Miss. State team, taking them to school 95-49. And no, Roy didn't run up the score. He played 16 guys, and McAdoo got the most minutes, with only 23 of them. Next, after dispatching the Bulldogs, they face . . . the Bulldogs, as they face Butler tonight, who beat Marquette at the buzzer.


Other scores of interest, at least to me:


Georgetown 78 - UCLA 70 = Shabazz Muhammad was finally cleared to play for the Bruins, and started his college career with a decent showing. But it wasn't enough to prevent the Hoyas from smacking them down. Of further interest to me as a Tar Heel is the fact that, though I do not hate UCLA, neither the Wear twins nor He Who Shall Remain Nameless had very productive nights. Serves them right. :r

New Mexico 66 - U. Conn 60 = Hey, I told you the Huskies showing against Quinnipiac gave me pause. The Lobos take the championship of the Paradise Jam in the Virgin Islands, and thus prevent U Conn from winning the only trophy they are eligible to compete for this season. :D

Chaminade 86 - Texas 73 = The D-II Silverswords improve their record in the Maui Invitational to 7-76 by sticking it to the Longhorns with this upset. And they actually beat them too. They owned the boards 43-35, while the 'Horns collected 18 TOs to only 10 assists. This was NOT as huge an upset as was their 77-72 victory over Ralph Sampson's #1 Virginia team 30 years ago, when Chaminade was merely a NAIA squad facing the best in the nation, but it was still a pretty big deal for them. :tu

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Crazy Carolina comeback tonight, Can't wait for our meeting next Tuesday.:D

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Lets go Buffs!!!

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UCLA Bruins lose to Cal Poly 70-68, in Pauley no less. Guess it's not as embarrassing as losing to Cal Tech, but it's pretty damn close.

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Thats a pathetic loss, but I can't say much. UK had its fair share of embarrassing losses with Billy at the helm.

I'm totally slacking on the basketball viewing/coverage. Still reeling from the Duke loss :r:r I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Time to get back on the wagon. Cant wait for the UNC vs IU matchup tomorrow.

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I can. :r

Don't much like my Heels' chances in Bloomington. They've been inconsistent, and won't have P.J. Hairston available due to a "slight" knee strain sustained in practice Sunday. Yet the Hoosiers won't have a few key freshmen available either, as they were deemed ineligible by the NCAA, plus they won't have backup forward Derek Elston, out with a torn meniscus.

I'm just hoping it's a good game.

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Happy 2013-2013 season, guys!!

Well, Murray State got the undefeated monkey off their back for the season:-) . it was a good tournament for them, and I really thought we'd play Baylor in the final if we got past St Johns, but the Buffaloes came to play, and we were not very good in the final. One plus was taking some vacation time to drive to Charleston to watch the tourney and get to see the area for the first time. We barely got past Old Dominion the other night.

Going to be an interesting season watching UK and the new frosh crop. Still ill at Barnhart and Cal for cancelling the IU series; REALLY lame on their part.

Cook has beaten 2 top KY teams now; the Mayans may be right!!! -(P

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Always happy to see the college BBall season get under way. I'm looking for a good season for Syracuse despite losing so many starters to the NBA after last season. A sophomore PG (Carter-Williams) with great moves and court smarts and amazing defense. Senior 2 guard (Triche) who is a good scorer and can play the point. A couple small forwards who came through big last year (Fair and Southerland). Freshman PF (Coleman) who already looks powerful enough to hold his own. Sophomore C (Christmas) is slightly undersized but showed promise last year after the 7 footer fab melo washed out. Team has a few promising role players like Trevor Cooney redshirt freshman guard who should stretch any zone they face and fresham forward Jerami Grant (son of Harvey) who was highly regarded coming out of DeMatha.

Only bad thing is this is the last year of SU in the big east. Boo.

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Me too. But for the Hoosiers.:D

Big test for us, tonight. Hoping for a good show.

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SDSU gets to play them next, wonder what they will look like this week....
Good to see you Thomas...

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Indiana might be one of the best teams at home. I will be keeping an eye on them when conference play starts.

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Yeah, but next year will be their first one in a TRUE conference. :r

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And..... Notre Dame beats Kentucky. I like this season.

MCS

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Whoa. Kentucky's 54-game winning streak at Rupp Arena comes to a screeching halt this afternoon, as Baylor takes them down 64-55, for their 2nd loss inna row, and their 3rd of 7 games.

I guess Dook is STILL flopping on them. :r

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I'll call the flop!!! :D:D

Cal, and we, the UK Faithful, are now receiving the not-so-fantastic benefits of recruiting highly tauted high school one-and-doners; they may be fantastic, but they may not come together as a team. This is not much of a team, yet. Been a while since UK lost 2 in a row, too. As bad as the Irish loss was, this Baylor game was horrible to watch. Hope there were no recruiting violations to get this class. It's going to be interesting to see how well Cal will be able to coach these freshmen up by tourney time.

Worked on a duck blind yesterday, so I didn't see much ball, except for the SEC Fball championship last night-great game. I DID note that Baylor's football team complimented the UK win with a win over OK State, a ranked opponent.

Finally, a pox on dook!!! :banger

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MCS

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There's every reason to believe Cal might be able to turn them around, eventually. There is also reason for the 'Cat fans to fear the worst. Lemme espound:

I cannot help but think of UNC's 1983 season, the year after Dean Smith finally won his first championship. The Heels came into the pre-season ranked #1, despite the fact they'd lost PF James Worthy and PG Jimmy Black from that team. They lost three of their first 6 games, and fell from #1 all the way out of the Top 25. But they did gel into a very good team, regaining that #1 spot again in about 2 months, and finished with a highly-respectable 28-8 record.

Of course, THAT team had future NBA players Sam Perkins and Brad Daugherty, future coaches Matt Doherty, Buzz Peterson, and Steve Hale, some guy named Jordan, and a coach named Smith. UK doesn't have anything like that. :r

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The college basketball community lost legendary coach (and jovial trencherman) Rick Majerus on Saturday night. He got his start in coaching as an assistant under the equally-cheerful Al McGuire at Marquette. In 25 seasons as a head coach at Marquette, Ball State, Utah, and Saint Louis he had a winning season in all but one of those, with 15 20-win and 2 30-win, led teams to the NCAA 12 times and the NIT 4 times, and finished his career with a most-respectable 517-216 record.

One thing you probably do not know about Rick, as it was pretty much an "inside, under-the-radar" story. When Dean Smith retired at UNC, leaving the reins in Bill Guthridge's hands as interim head coach (in reward for decades as assistant and to allow a search committe ample time to acquire a suitable long-term candidate), he lobbied strongly for Carolina to hire Rick Majerus. But somebody else, who should NOT have had more sway but DID with said committe, convinced them to hire his old teammate instead . . . which is how Michael Jordan pulled a backdoor on Dean and got Matt Doherty the job.

Rest in peace, Rick.

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I'm in hiding. I will come back out of my room in January.:al:lv:o

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What year? :r

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:r

I'm not going anywhere. I have missed back to back UK games for the first time I can remember. Life is crazy. Maybe thats why UK lost the last two games? Its all my fault.

I'm having sports withdrawal. Haven't been able to watch much of anything lately.

UK has an easy stretch. Perfect time to figure a few things out and get some confidence. Half the team deleted their twitter accounts. I'm sure they were hearing some not so nice things from the crazies. Lord knows there are plenty.

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That's funny to me. Last year a number of coaches banned Twitter for their entire team, fearing it would only lead to problems, and were praised for their foresight and decisiveness. The prevoius year, Roy Williams had banned the Heels from keeping Twitter accounts, and was loudly derided for being paranoid and overly controlling. :r

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College athletes and fans on twitter is just a bad idea. Hell twitter is a bad idea. People can't control themselves