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shibby4781 09-25-2012 04:39 PM

Box-pressed woes
 
I don't know I'm just not liking box-pressed cigars. They don't feel right in the hand and they throw me off when I puff on them. Some of them taste good and are possibly great but the shape kills the experience for me. Any one else have these feelings?

kelmac07 09-25-2012 04:42 PM

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Nope...I enjoy a box press. :2

Bleez 09-25-2012 04:49 PM

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:dr 601 Blue Box Press

joeobx 09-25-2012 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleez (Post 1722626)
:dr 601 Blue Box Press

:tu

bobarian 09-25-2012 05:03 PM

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:sh Dont like 'em? Dont smoke 'em. Problem solved. :banger

pnoon 09-25-2012 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shibby4781 (Post 1722613)
I don't know I'm just not liking box-pressed cigars. They don't feel right in the hand and they throw me off when I puff on them. Some of them taste good and are possibly great but the shape kills the experience for me. Any one else have these feelings?

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Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1722643)
:sh Dont like 'em? Dont smoke 'em. Problem solved. :banger

I will smoke one on occasion but I'm with the OP on this. Generally speaking, I don't care for box press. Especially the intentional ones. (Padron 64 & 26 are the exception. For that quality, they could be triangles. :))

Big Bert 09-25-2012 05:21 PM

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Oooooooh triangle smokes ... Someone needs to do that ASAP :D peter that's an awesome idea it would be a nice rare and odd shape...

Keith, I actually enjoy a nice box press. I had nothing but good experiences with them but like Peter says if the quality is good I could care less about the shape :)

Dunkel 09-25-2012 05:23 PM

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The only box press I didn't like because of the shape was the Rocky Patel I-Press. Kinda felt like I was smoking a lego or block of wood.

bobarian 09-25-2012 05:23 PM

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Triangle presses have been done several times in the past. Dont recall the names, but I know there was also a triangle tubo! :banger

Robulous78 09-25-2012 05:26 PM

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I have to say just the opposite... I feel a good box pressed cigar speaks to the construction of the tobacco rolled within... If it can be pressed square and maintains a good draw with a good volume of smoke, then the cigar was rolled with superiority...

I do notice, however, that some box presses do not draw well, and do not have the smoke output i desire... I equate this to being from poor rolling or from a poor manufacturer...

I have to agree with the rest... if Box pressed isn't your preference, so be it... but don't turn away from box pressed cigars just because of their shape... some, like the wonderfully delicious and indulgent 601 blue, only come in box press and are nearly unanimously considered a fantastic cigar...

I'll offer one other solution... you can always send your box presses to me... :D

kelmac07 09-25-2012 05:32 PM

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Triangle sticks...Alec Bradley Trilogy is one that comes to mind.

equetefue 09-25-2012 06:01 PM

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I personally like box pressed

icehog3 09-25-2012 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1722655)
Triangle presses have been done several times in the past. Dont recall the names, but I know there was also a triangle tubo! :banger

Thought it was Helix, but I can't remember for sure.

Based on my preference for cabs, I prefer a round cigar over a box press too, but won't turn down a cigar soley for that reason (obviously, most cigars don't come in cabs or SLBs).

T.G 09-25-2012 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bert (Post 1722653)
Oooooooh triangle smokes ... Someone needs to do that ASAP :D peter that's an awesome idea it would be a nice rare and odd shape...

The first person to do this was Alan Ruben (Alec Bradley cigars) about 10 years ago with the Trilogy line. Gimicky as heck and sometimes they had horrible burn problems. Ultimately he stopped doing it because it was very difficult to press them without damaging the wrapper leaf.

The Trilogy line was eventually re-released without the tri-press, and no one has done the tri-press since that I'm aware of.

icehog3 09-25-2012 06:11 PM

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Trology! I was thinking "Triad" as my second thought, but I believe that was it, Adam.

Big Bert 09-25-2012 06:26 PM

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That's awesome it would be nice to see one ... Google here i come :r

SpruceBruce 09-25-2012 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1722650)
I will smoke one on occasion but I'm with the OP on this. Generally speaking, I don't care for box press. Especially the intentional ones. (Padron 64 & 26 are the exception. For that quality, they could be triangles. :))


:tpd:
Agree here. I never seem to get a good burn with box press. To each his own, though. -(P

Robulous78 09-25-2012 08:08 PM

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What box presses... specifically.... do you guys not like? Aside from one or two issues with one or 2 lines I love box presses... from the Nica Libre to the scrumptious 601 blue... :D

Robulous78 09-25-2012 08:09 PM

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The vice press I had burned alittle jagged... but beyond that I still enjoyed the cigar... and that was only 1 out of the 2 box presses I have had any issues with at all...

Justinphilly 09-25-2012 08:14 PM

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Ill pm you my address.. Just send me all of the box pressed stogies you don't want. LOL!

TJarv 09-25-2012 08:21 PM

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I love a good box press. Typically I get great draws and decent burns on them.

Robulous78 09-25-2012 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1722764)
I love a good box press. Typically I get great draws and decent burns on them.

:tpd:

Zane 09-25-2012 08:59 PM

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I have only had a few box pressed. Enjoyed them.

RobR1205 09-25-2012 09:44 PM

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Don't mind the box press. One of the most enjoyable ones I can remember were PAM Family Reserve Maduro and Man O War Armada (collectors tin edition). I like to break up the monotony of rounded cigars every once in a while.

T.G 09-25-2012 10:12 PM

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I'd like to interject for a second here and point out that from a technical standpoint that a lot of the cigars being talked about in this thread, while billed as box press by the nc catalogs and even their manufacturers, are not actually box pressed. They are factory pressed. Box pressed is what Tom and Peter alluded to; it's a cigar that is rolled round and placed into box that is slightly smaller than the combined height and width of all the cigars, causing the cigars to deform to a slight rectangular or square shape in the box. Mushing a cigar square or rectangular in a mold, such as Padron cigars, is technically a factory press. Not a big deal, but just wanted to toss that out there.
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RobR1205 09-26-2012 05:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1722835)
I'd like to interject for a second here and point out that from a technical standpoint that a lot of the cigars being talked about in this thread, while billed as box press by the nc catalogs and even their manufacturers, are not actually box pressed. They are factory pressed. Box pressed is what Tom and Peter alluded to; it's a cigar that is rolled round and placed into box that is slightly smaller than the combined height and width of all the cigars, causing the cigars to deform to a slight rectangular or square shape in the box. Mushing a cigar square or rectangular in a mold, such as Padron cigars, is technically a factory press. Not a big deal, but just wanted to toss that out there.
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:hm Hmm... duly noted. Never really thought about the difference between let's a Padron cigar, and a PL Panatela, which is kinda rounded, but will not roll on a table because of the slight box press it was given from being boxed so tightly. Thanks for the clarification!

kelmac07 09-26-2012 06:01 AM

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LFD Factory Press is an outstanding box press stick. :dr :dr :dr

Subvet642 09-26-2012 06:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1722618)
Nope...I enjoy a box press. :2

I'm with Mac on that!

Subvet642 09-26-2012 06:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bert (Post 1722653)
Oooooooh triangle smokes ... Someone needs to do that ASAP :D peter that's an awesome idea it would be a nice rare and odd shape...

Keith, I actually enjoy a nice box press. I had nothing but good experiences with them but like Peter says if the quality is good I could care less about the shape :)

Have you tried an LGC Obelisco? These things are delicious and burn perfectly!

http://www.mikescigars.com/data_file...-prod-shot.jpg

Blak Smyth 09-26-2012 06:53 AM

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I don't like to smoke outside the box :confused:

I just like good cigars, don't care what they look like.
Some of the best cigars I have tried looked terrible.
@Dball, you know one!

Stevez 09-26-2012 08:53 AM

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I agree with the OP; I'll smoke them, but not a fan in general. I think it's because I have had more draw issues with them in the past and I am biased against them. Have had some great padron's though that were box pressed, but to me that is a rare experience.

shibby4781 09-26-2012 08:54 AM

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Again its not that I absolutely hate them and I would never pass one up, it's not my first choice though. I think I will take some of your suggestions and go shopping to see if I can be swayed.

CigarNut 09-26-2012 08:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1722650)
I will smoke one on occasion but I'm with the OP on this. Generally speaking, I don't care for box press. Especially the intentional ones. (Padron 64 & 26 are the exception. For that quality, they could be triangles. :))

Agreed!

:tpd:

pedro 09-26-2012 09:28 AM

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Nope I prefer my cigars round, I will actually buy cabs of 50 to try and avoided the square cigars in dress boxes.

czerbe 09-26-2012 09:41 AM

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Big fan of Box presses to great ones that come to mind are the Ortega Serie D and the Headley Grange both killer sticks and also great price points

pektel 09-26-2012 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro (Post 1723019)
Nope I prefer my cigars round, I will actually buy cabs of 50 to try and avoided the square cigars in dress boxes.

Especially the churchill/double corona sizes. I've found that larger format dress box cigars have more draw issues than their 50 cab presentation counterparts.

Though I do like when smoking a box press cigar, that I can set it down without it rolling all over the place. :)

STEVE S 09-26-2012 10:35 AM

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I just love cigars, round or box pressed or factory pressed I smoke them all!!!

SpruceBruce 09-26-2012 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro (Post 1723019)
Nope I prefer my cigars round, I will actually buy cabs of 50 to try and avoided the square cigars in dress boxes.

Maybe I'm just being dumb, but what are "cabs"?

icehog3 09-26-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpruceBruce (Post 1723161)
Maybe I'm just being dumb, but what are "cabs"?

50 count boxes with a slide top lid.

Some cigars also come in a 25 count SLB.

TJtorpedo 09-26-2012 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by czerbe (Post 1723030)
Big fan of Box presses to great ones that come to mind are the Ortega Serie D and the Headley Grange both killer sticks and also great price points

The Ortega Serie D (both wrappers) are darn good. I love me a good press!

maninblack 09-26-2012 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1722927)
I don't like to smoke outside the box :confused:

I just like good cigars, don't care what they look like.
Some of the best cigars I have tried looked terrible.
@Dball, you know one!

What Shane said.

SpruceBruce 09-26-2012 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1723166)
50 count boxes with a slide top lid.

Some cigars also come in a 25 count SLB.

Interesting - how are they better than dress boxes for box-press-i-ness?
:confused:

kickerb 09-27-2012 07:51 AM

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I love box pressed cigars! To me, they have better mouth feel.

icehog3 09-27-2012 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpruceBruce (Post 1723322)
Interesting - how are they better than dress boxes for box-press-i-ness?
:confused:

They're not....they stay round. :)

CRIMPS 09-27-2012 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpruceBruce (Post 1723322)
Interesting - how are they better than dress boxes for box-press-i-ness?
:confused:

Think of a round bundle of cigars tied together by a ribbon, then placed within a cedar cab. Thus, no box press.

Sonic04GT 09-27-2012 10:36 PM

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I like em.


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