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smitty81 02-28-2012 02:04 PM

Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
How do you guys keep your sticks on the cooler side apart from using the air conditioning in your house?

Fia 02-28-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Freeze them before putting them in the humidor! That being said, most mfgs are freezing their cigars prior to shipment so it might not be so bad.

Ogre 02-28-2012 02:38 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Keep your humidor away from windows and exterior walls. Keep towards the center of the house and interior walls. If needed get a vinodoor and it will regulate temp like a fridge.

icehog3 02-28-2012 03:54 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fia (Post 1574847)
Freeze them before putting them in the humidor! That being said, most mfgs are freezing their cigars prior to shipment so it might not be so bad.

How long will that keep them cool? A few hours?

CigarNut 02-28-2012 04:20 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1574834)
How do you guys keep your sticks on the cooler side apart from using the air conditioning in your house?

Out of curiosity -- what are thinking when you say "cooler side"? What is the typical ambient temperature in your house?

smitty81 02-28-2012 04:43 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1574948)
Out of curiosity -- what are thinking when you say "cooler side"? What is the typical ambient temperature in your house?

my house stays anywhere from 63-75 in the winter and 73-76 in the summer. I was mostly asking those people that fight upper 80-90 degree weather all year.

Chingas 02-28-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
I don't have high heat all year but for a few consecutive months it's high. For my regular smokes, I use wine coolers.

For my overflow, I close the door to the office (smallest room in the house) and set the ac to a moderate temp. From my understanding, if it's under 77 degrees, you should be alright. That being said, I prefer 70. The overflow cigars are in regular coolers with either beads or boveda packs.

bobarian 02-28-2012 04:52 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
There is no place in the world with 80-90degree temps year long. They may have average daily high temperatures this high but it does cool off at night.

I assume you are asking with reference to beetles? Beetles need sustained high temperatures to hatch, most places cool off at night so even though it might get warm during the day the night time cooling will often go below the critical point.

Many of us(including myself) use wine coolers to keep temperatures lower. But I no longer plug in my wine coolers, I found it much easier to freeze all my boxes for 3-4 days before putting them in a cooler.

MurphysLaw 02-28-2012 04:54 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
I keep most of my cigars in my edgestar, I keep my desktop away from the exterior wall and across from an AC duct, AC is always between 70 and 73

jluck 02-28-2012 04:54 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1574834)
How do you guys keep your sticks on the cooler side apart from using the air conditioning in your house?

What are you trying to accomplish?

icehog3 02-28-2012 05:10 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1574974)
my house stays anywhere from 63-75 in the winter and 73-76 in the summer. I was mostly asking those people that fight upper 80-90 degree weather all year.

I am curious why you are asking then...are you writing a book? :r

Chingas 02-28-2012 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1575006)
I am curious why you are asking then...are you writing a book? :r

Always a joker Tom!!!

Maybe he's planning a move.

I like the book thought better...

icehog3 02-28-2012 05:16 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingas (Post 1575009)
Always a joker Tom!!!

Maybe he's planning a move.

I like the book thought better...

I wasn't joking. :r

mmblz 02-28-2012 05:19 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
otterbox. bathtub. 5 bags of ice daily.
:2

CigarNut 02-28-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1575015)
otterbox. bathtub. 5 bags of ice daily.
:2

Must be the small Otterbox. :banger

markem 02-28-2012 05:58 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1575015)
otterbox. bathtub. 5 bags of ice daily.
:2

why would you put a small, aquatic animal in a cage, James? I had heard that lawyers were mean and cruel, but ... :sh

Hem 02-28-2012 05:59 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre (Post 1574867)
Keep your humidor away from windows and exterior walls. Keep towards the center of the house and interior walls. If needed get a vinodoor and it will regulate temp like a fridge.

^ This!

I find myself googling winedor's daily now...I want..need..one..ugh

pnoon 02-28-2012 06:00 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1575036)
why would you put a small, aquatic animal in a cage, James? I had heard that lawyers were mean and cruel, but ... :sh

Yes, James is a lawyer. But why would you drag him into it when it is Julian torturing the cute little otters?
:sh

markem 02-28-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575041)
Yes, James is a lawyer. But why would you drag him into it when it is Julian torturing the cute little otters?
:sh

Julian is too nice to say such things, but James isn't. Ergo ... :tu

pnoon 02-28-2012 06:02 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1575042)
Julian is too nice to say such things, but James isn't. Ergo ... :tu

But James doesn't mmbl(z). :sl

smitty81 02-28-2012 06:59 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1574982)
There is no place in the world with 80-90degree temps year long. They may have average daily high temperatures this high but it does cool off at night.
I assume you are asking with reference to beetles? Beetles need sustained high temperatures to hatch, most places cool off at night so even though it might get warm during the day the night time cooling will often go below the critical point.

Many of us(including myself) use wine coolers to keep temperatures lower. But I no longer plug in my wine coolers, I found it much easier to freeze all my boxes for 3-4 days before putting them in a cooler.

What I mean by a constant high is no actual cold winder with snow and really low temperatures like we have here in nebraska. Sorry, should have worded it different.

smitty81 02-28-2012 07:00 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1575006)
I am curious why you are asking then...are you writing a book? :r

When I pick up a new hobby, I try to learn all I can. Rather it be firearms, hunting, fishing, sports, brewing.......

I am relativly new to cigars and I am just trying to learn and understand different things.

I apologize if I am wasting your time, I would PM someone but I don't really know anyone that well here yet.

chippewastud79 02-28-2012 07:02 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575100)
When I pick up a new hobby, I try to learn all I can. Rather it be firearms, hunting, fishing, sports, brewing.......

I am relativly new to cigars and I am just trying to learn and understand different things.

More reading, less random posting and thread starting. You are spending too much time being over ambitious, spend some time learning. :2

smitty81 02-28-2012 07:05 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1575103)
More reading, less random posting and thread starting. You are spending too much time being over ambitious, spend some time learning. :2

Thats what I am trying to do. You gotta ask questions to learn don't you?

Is there a Cigar Bible with all the knowledge in it I can read?

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-28-2012 07:15 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575108)
Thats what I am trying to do. You gotta ask questions to learn don't you?

Is there a Cigar Bible with all the knowledge in it I can read?

Use the search tool.

oooo35980 02-28-2012 07:17 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
I live in Hawaii, keep my humidor indoors and not in direct sunlight, temp stays around 70. Are you asking how to keep something cool when it's hot outside? Or how best to keep cigars cool when your AC isn't working? Or how to keep the temp constant? Or just want to know how people store their cigars?

Maybe your question just isn't specific enough?

smitty81 02-28-2012 07:19 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1575127)
Use the search tool.

I did............didn't find much.

pnoon 02-28-2012 07:19 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1575127)
Use the search tool.

Or just browse. Think of this place as a library of sorts.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-28-2012 07:21 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575142)
Or just browse. Think of this place as a library of sorts.

Exactly:tu

pnoon 02-28-2012 07:24 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1575146)
Exactly:tu

I'll take Beer, Wine and Spirits for $200, Alex. :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-28-2012 07:29 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575153)
I'll take Beer, Wine and Spirits for $200, Alex. :D

:r:r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Qqu_WBIc

markem 02-28-2012 07:38 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575108)
Thats what I am trying to do. You gotta ask questions to learn don't you?

Is there a Cigar Bible with all the knowledge in it I can read?

Jon Caputo is writing the definitive guide. Until then, one can only run over to puff.com and learn all his wisdom firsthand.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-28-2012 07:44 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1575191)
Jon Caputo is writing the definitive guide. Until then, one can only run over to puff.com and learn all his wisdom firsthand.

I thought his name was banned over here?:r

pnoon 02-28-2012 07:45 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1575191)
Jon Craputo is writing the definitive guide. Until then, one can only run over to puff.com and learn all his wisdom firsthand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1575198)
I thought his name was banned over here?:r

fixed

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-28-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575200)
fixed

I figured we had a glitch in the system Peter. Looks to be ok now:r

CigarNut 02-28-2012 08:30 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575108)
Thats what I am trying to do. You gotta ask questions to learn don't you?

Is there a Cigar Bible with all the knowledge in it I can read?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1575127)
Use the search tool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575141)
I did............didn't find much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575142)
Or just browse. Think of this place as a library of sorts.

People learn differently and some people will naturally dig around to find some and some don't or won't.

It is more work to go digging and searching, but it is more rewarding in the long run.

It's fine to ask questions, but i want to ask you something: do you have kids or have you ever seen kids ask too many questions and the rest of the family or parents get a little tired of being bombarded all at once?

Don't make that mistake here. Ask your questions, but maybe pace them out a bit. Also, take the time to make sure that your posts are articulate.

Smitty81, I am not trying to pick on you -- just offering some advice that you can accept or ignore. Your choice.

:2

smitty81 02-28-2012 08:39 PM

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Ok, I get it. I'm being annoying with my questions. Sorry, just trying to learn a little.

I will just leave it at that.

Later.

JenksAnejo 02-28-2012 08:45 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
There are many websites including this one that have a library of information.
If you are trying to learn all you can type cigar 101 into google and there you have it. All the information you need to learn all of the basics.

ApexAZ 02-28-2012 11:18 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

As for the 20 questions, I can relate. I tend to ask first search later as well. I just try to keep it in check and be as humble as possible when I do it. Personally I haven't had much luck using the search feature, but it's probably user error.

Also for me I think it has a lot to do with the social aspect of opening a dialog with people. I like the interaction. Again though, it can lead to frustration for others when they feel like they are answering the same questions over and over. Even though these topics are new and exciting to you and I, it's old hat to the veterans of the forum. Michael gave some good advice about limiting it.

Anyways, I just wanted to tell you that I can relate.

icehog3 02-28-2012 11:19 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
http://www.google.com/#q=keeping+hum...w=1024&bih=685

ktblunden 02-29-2012 07:46 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1575387)
Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

ApexAZ 02-29-2012 07:59 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ktblunden (Post 1575620)
If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

:tu

T.G 02-29-2012 08:51 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1575387)
Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

smitty81 02-29-2012 08:57 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1575669)
This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

jluck 02-29-2012 09:00 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Valid question, I'm not trying to be a d!ck.

smitty81 02-29-2012 09:02 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1575681)
So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Keeping cigars in a warmer climate is what I'm asking about.

Guess it could be related to beetles though.

If you freeze them to start with you dont have to worry how warm they get afterwords?

T.G 02-29-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575677)
Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

CigarNut 02-29-2012 09:12 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575683)
Keeping cigars in a warmer climate is what I'm asking about.

Guess it could be related to beetles though.

If you freeze them to start with you dont have to worry how warm they get afterwords?

That is correct. Freezing == No Beetles.

However, humidity changes with temperature so you still need to keep your eye on things...

smitty81 02-29-2012 09:14 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1575697)
That is correct. Freezing == No Beetles.

However, humidity changes with temperature so you still need to keep your eye on things...

got it.

Thank you for answering my noob questions.

smitty81 02-29-2012 09:14 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1575693)
It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

ok, thanks for your input.:tu


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