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blugill 12-04-2011 05:11 PM

The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I'll start off by saying I don't get it. I'm 41, listened to them on the radio when they were on the radio. Was a paperboy in high school and frequently heard the radio documentaries about their life and times every weekend but I don't get it.

I'd be perfectly happy to never listen to another Beatles tune and not regret it. I know a lot of people still listen to them, but I find their stuff tired, dated, and not really relevant today.

Now Led Zeppelin on the other hand!

BC-Axeman 12-04-2011 05:18 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
+1
There are a few good Beatles songs but the Eagles even kick their butts for staying power.

longknocker 12-04-2011 05:21 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
"Here Comes The Sun"- Best Song Ever! :) I Like Led Zeppelin & The Eagles, Too, Though. :tu

MajorCaptSilly 12-04-2011 05:21 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I appreciate them but don't like them so much. I'm a much bigger fan of The Who and The Kinks.


MCS

bobarian 12-04-2011 05:23 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Sgt Peppers, best album of all time end to end.:tu

14holestogie 12-04-2011 05:24 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Without the Beatles, I'm not sure we're talking about any other British bands. :2

mase 12-04-2011 05:25 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I'm with you - I don't get it. My favorite is Led Zeppelin. I like the Stones much more than the Beatles.

RevSmoke 12-04-2011 05:35 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
OK, the one I don't get is Elvis.

Beatles? What's not to get about them? They were doing things nobody was doing. Don't compare them to today.

forgop 12-04-2011 05:50 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Elvis, Beatles, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Rush....all of them....meh

bobarian 12-04-2011 05:57 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492278)
Elvis, Beatles, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Rush....all of them....meh

Yeah, a bunch of no names, never heard of 'em. :lr:lr

14holestogie 12-04-2011 06:04 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
No offense, Andy, but if you're 41, the Beatles songs you were hearing on the radio were 10-15 years old by the time you were hearing them (I'm assuming late 70's by the time you were listening). They should have seemed a little dated. Now, if you were listening as these songs were appearing for the first time, then you'd understand what Rev is talking about.
It was inventive stuff that opened doors and challenged others to keep up.

mosesbotbol 12-04-2011 06:06 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
The later the Beatles recording, the more I like it. I loved John Lennon's solo work. I like the Stones much more as a band, but Beatles have better song writting and composition IMO.

14holestogie 12-04-2011 06:09 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1492301)
The later the Beatles recording, the more I like it. I loved John Lennon's solo work. I like the Stones much more as a band, but Beatles have better song writting and composition IMO.

If you listen to their earliest stuff next to their later stuff, the growth these guys showed in their 6-7 year life was unparallelled.

blugill 12-04-2011 06:11 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1492297)
No offense, Andy, but if you're 41, the Beatles songs you were hearing on the radio were 10-15 years old by the time you were hearing them (I'm assuming late 70's by the time you were listening). They should have seemed a little dated. Now, if you were listening as these songs were appearing for the first time, then you'd understand what Rev is talking about.
It was inventive stuff that opened doors and challenged others to keep up.

None taken, that's what I'm asking. What am I missing?

RichardW 12-04-2011 06:13 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
You shoulda been there -- were born too late ;)

forgop 12-04-2011 06:18 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1492289)
Yeah, a bunch of no names, never heard of 'em. :lr:lr

I'm just saying I won't listen to any of it because I just don't "get" any of them. I would prefer silence over listening to any of those groups. ;s

markem 12-04-2011 06:20 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492315)
I'm just saying I won't listen to any of it because I just don't "get" any of them. I would prefer silence over listening to any of those groups. ;s

I can understand. There are plenty of things over which I prefer silence :rolleyes:

pnoon 12-04-2011 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1492317)
I can understand. There are plenty of things over which I prefer silence :rolleyes:

:tpd:

Gophernut 12-04-2011 06:35 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492278)
Elvis, Beatles, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Rush....all of them....meh

I am a huge Rush fan, and to even have them included on this list, is a huge honor if you ask me. Yes, I do understand you don't necessarily like them. I have honestly never even thought of them in this league, and they are my all time favorite band.:banger

pnoon 12-04-2011 06:36 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492315)
I'm just saying I won't listen to any of it because I just don't "get" any of them. I would prefer silence over listening to any of those groups. ;s

That's o.k.
We don't care for Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.
:banger

longknocker 12-04-2011 06:57 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1492331)
That's o.k.
We don't care for Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.
:banger

Well Said, Peter! :r :tu

T.G 12-04-2011 07:06 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE!!!

*sob*

pnoon 12-04-2011 07:08 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1492351)
LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE!!!

*sob*

:lr

bobarian 12-04-2011 07:14 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1492331)
That's o.k.
We don't care for Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.
:banger

Blasphemer! May you be smited by the spirit of Katy Perry! :banger

Resipsa 12-04-2011 07:14 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1492317)
I can understand. There are plenty of things over which I prefer silence :rolleyes:

:r:r

Silence is Golden by the tremolos.

I FINALLY get that song! Thank you Mark!:r

forgop 12-04-2011 07:15 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1492331)
That's o.k.
We don't care for Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus.
:banger

Me neither.

blugill 12-04-2011 07:18 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I think everyone on this forum can agree that Lady Justin Cyrus Spears is bad music and no one should listen to it. They have a limited shelf life and will fade into New Kids territory soon enough.

Resipsa 12-04-2011 07:22 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Same thing lots of people said about the Ramones, Sex Pistols, New York Dolls.....

Ashcan Bill 12-04-2011 07:29 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Different strokes and all that.

I remember when they came over here and did their first tour. Remember the Beatles trading cards. Remember the little girls in the hood going all gaa gaa over them. Remember when their songs first hit the charts.

There're a few songs they did I like. Norwegian Wood comes to mind.

But I never cared much for them. I preferred Buffalo Springfield, Cream, the Stones, Joplin and the Holding Co. - a whole host of others. The sixties were a rich time for music.

They were good, but just a part of a large whole.

yellowgoat 12-04-2011 07:33 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Srg.pepper is overated. Let it be was the best and always makes me think about how much more they could have done.

SvilleKid 12-04-2011 07:37 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 1492226)
I'll start off by saying I don't get it. I'm 41, listened to them on the radio when they were on the radio. Was a paperboy in high school and frequently heard the radio documentaries about their life and times every weekend but I don't get it.

I'd be perfectly happy to never listen to another Beatles tune and not regret it. I know a lot of people still listen to them, but I find their stuff tired, dated, and not really relevant today.

Now Led Zeppelin on the other hand!

Preach on, brother!! I'm a decade older than you, and have listened to them all my life. Enough is enough. I liked them when I was younger, but have 100% burned out on them! That's it, plain and simple - Burn Out. I don't have a single Beatles tune on my iPhone or on any of my computers. Just can't listen to them any more. pretty much the same way with Elvis. I recently purchased over 500 LPs from a guy, which had a dozen or so original Beatles album hidden in the lot. Plan on selling every last one of them. Same with the dozen or more Elvis LPs in the bunch.

MajorCaptSilly 12-04-2011 07:47 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 1492365)
I think everyone on this forum can agree that Lady Justin Cyrus Spears is bad music and no one should listen to it. They have a limited shelf life and will fade into New Kids territory soon enough.

Music is like cigars. Listen to what you like and like what you listen to. There's no such thing as bad music as long as somebody is gaining enjoyment from it.

MCS

Marlon K 12-04-2011 07:54 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I'm With you on this one.

BC-Axeman 12-04-2011 08:08 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
What ever happened to Shaun Cassidy? He seemed to have such a promising future.

SvilleKid 12-04-2011 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1492407)
What ever happened to Shaun Cassidy? He seemed to have such a promising future.

:r

He actually has stayed very busy as a produced on TV shows, including several big shows. Latest is on several episodes of "Blue Bloods". I saw his name on several of the episodes, and had to look it up to see if it was the same person!

icehog3 12-04-2011 08:19 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
The Beatles aren't on my list of favorite bands, but they have LOTS of songs I enjoy.

I prefer to listen to silence over intolerant rants though (not you, Andy). Stones, Elvis, Floyd = meh? Gimmie a break. :rolleyes:

bobarian 12-04-2011 08:27 PM

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Floyd rocks!:banger

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/600...dthebarber.jpg

icehog3 12-04-2011 08:31 PM

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I'm an Aunt Bea man.....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a.../auntbea-1.jpg

maninblack 12-04-2011 08:32 PM

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The Stones were the best British band in my opinion. But they've overstayed their welcome.

icehog3 12-04-2011 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1492439)
The Stones were the best British band in my opinion. But they've overstayed their welcome.

Much like my ex-wife.

bobarian 12-04-2011 09:13 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1492437)

The other Bea is very dissapointed. :(

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9633/73232maudel.jpg

MNSmoker 12-04-2011 11:08 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
You like what you like. Different strokes and all that jazz. You don't like The Beatles, and that's OK. Personally I love The Beatles and I think they're the greatest band of all time.

I'd like to preface this by stating that I'm 29 years old, so I never got to experience The Beatles music when it was first released. My dad and uncle are gigantic Beatles fans, so I've grown up with The Beatles my whole life.

The Beatles essentially started out as a pop band, but the progression that the band made musically over their career is nothing short of amazing to me. They encompassed many different genres of music and were a very experimental group. I'm still blown away by how creative that group was. With songs like "The Long and Winding Road", "Eleanor Rigby", "Yesterday" and "A Day in the Life", I'm still in awe of these songs after listening to them a thousand times over. And the songwriting of these guys was brilliant! I still get goosebumps every time I hear the song "In my Life".

And then there's the whole social aspect of the group's impact and the following British Invasion, but I'm too young to speak on that directly.

I'd also like to add that a small, but important, part of The Beatles success was the direction and musical addition of George Martin. He produced practically all of The Beatles albums and had a direct influence on the group and how their music progressed over the years.

Again, to each their own. And I love Led Zeppelin BTW :D

irratebass 12-05-2011 04:32 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blugill (Post 1492226)
I'll start off by saying I don't get it. I'm 41, listened to them on the radio when they were on the radio. Was a paperboy in high school and frequently heard the radio documentaries about their life and times every weekend but I don't get it.

I'd be perfectly happy to never listen to another Beatles tune and not regret it. I know a lot of people still listen to them, but I find their stuff tired, dated, and not really relevant today.

Now Led Zeppelin on the other hand!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNSmoker (Post 1492533)
You like what you like. Different strokes and all that jazz. You don't like The Beatles, and that's OK. Personally I love The Beatles and I think they're the greatest band of all time.

I'd like to preface this by stating that I'm 29 years old, so I never got to experience The Beatles music when it was first released. My dad and uncle are gigantic Beatles fans, so I've grown up with The Beatles my whole life.

The Beatles essentially started out as a pop band, but the progression that the band made musically over their career is nothing short of amazing to me. They encompassed many different genres of music and were a very experimental group. I'm still blown away by how creative that group was. With songs like "The Long and Winding Road", "Eleanor Rigby", "Yesterday" and "A Day in the Life", I'm still in awe of these songs after listening to them a thousand times over. And the songwriting of these guys was brilliant! I still get goosebumps every time I hear the song "In my Life".

And then there's the whole social aspect of the group's impact and the following British Invasion, but I'm too young to speak on that directly.

I'd also like to add that a small, but important, part of The Beatles success was the direction and musical addition of George Martin. He produced practically all of The Beatles albums and had a direct influence on the group and how their music progressed over the years.

Again, to each their own. And I love Led Zeppelin BTW :D

I agree with Smoker on all accounts, I was around the beatles all my life, my stepdad was the biggest fan I ever met. I didn't get to fully appreciate them until I was in my late 20's I had heard their big hits, but never REALLY listened to them then I started out slowly and discovered just how brilliant these 4 guys were, as someone and a lot of people have already said they were doing stuff that no one else had done. They re-invented the wheel when it comes to music, all of their stuff was so original and groundbreaking.

As smoker mentioned George Martin gave them an AMAZING sound, throw on Revolver put your headphones on and just listen to dynamic sound seeping in your ears, then put in an Eagles, Cars or Fleetwood Mac (just throwing a few randoms) the production cannot be touched. Same with Jimi Hendrix, NO ONE sounds like them the way they were produced.

But away from the production they were just brilliant musicians. I have always felt like they were 4 aliens who came to Earth made amazing sounds then left us too briefly.....but that's just my :2

Bill86 12-05-2011 04:37 AM

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I'll toss my hat into the "not a Beatles fan" group. I mean a few of their songs are good but I don't get it.

Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones :banger

I don't think there is a single moment of any day I wouldn't want to hear the Stones or Floyd.

BC-Axeman 12-05-2011 07:25 AM

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I'm not a Stones fan either. The Beatles came up with better stuff in their heroin addicted, acid crazed period than the Stones anyway. During their kid-pop days the Stones were more edgy. I'm not a fan of the total separation mixing that the Beatles used in their production unless it is for special effect. They never thought of putting the drum kit at the bottom of a stairwell and the mic at the top (Levee Breaks). Pink Floyd and Zep also explored many genres of music and were very creative songwriters, though Floyd was sometimes pretty far out there, Animals will always be one of my favorites. I was a complete Beatles nut when I was a kid and can still sing along with almost every song that I hear so maybe I should re-explore my album collection. Antique music now.

madwilliamflint 12-05-2011 07:48 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Bunch of overrated guttersnipes.

Did their time, practiced their ass off, were really tight and were one of the stepping stones on the path to the discovery of rock and roll. So they have their place.

But good lord does their music make my ears hurt.

shilala 12-05-2011 07:59 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I feel exactly the same way, both the Beatles and Zep. I usually get skewered for saying I don't care if I ever hear another Pink Floyd song again. I've had more than enough.
Same as always, to each his own, smoke what ya like... :tu

OLS 12-05-2011 08:02 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Doesn't "get" Elvis, lol.

It's simple. In order to "get" Bix Beiderbecke, you have to have tolerated whatever came a generation
before him. In order to get Buddy Holly, you had to understand what came one or two generations behind
HIM. In order to "get" Elvis, you needed to know about Count Basie, the big bands, and 50 other 1940s acts
branching into whatever stuck up white milktoast music people were digging 20 years before him. In order to
get the Beatles, you have to get Elvis. Everything built on or was a Violent reaction to everything that came
before it. People who like Hip Hop listen to the Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash and think "people actually
LISTENED TO THIS??" Elvis was a gigantic innovator not only because of what he did, but what color he was
doing it. He took music that people wanted to get into (but couldn't) or wouldn't, because it was "colored
music" When they found out he was a white kid, the lid came off the whole deal. The Beatles listened to Elvis
and tried to copy and out-swing him. With music you either like it or not. No need to question why you don't
get it. But it is very enriching to study American popular music since the 1880s and see the tree grow.

You may not know this, but in England, before Buddy Holly and Elvis, the popular british bands at the
time were playing a music that equates to Dixieland Jazz (skiffle). Yes, the people in the Rolling Stones
were playing skiffle before they heard these records. Can you imagine what those race records did to
those kids when they heard them?? Talk about blowing the lid off of something.

BC-Axeman 12-05-2011 08:13 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1492694)
I feel exactly the same way, both the Beatles and Zep. I usually get skewered for saying I don't care if I ever hear another Pink Floyd song again. I've had more than enough.
Same as always, to each his own, smoke what ya like... :tu

Ack!!!! Skewer him!!!!

OLS 12-05-2011 08:19 AM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1492694)
I feel exactly the same way, both the Beatles and Zep. I usually get skewered for saying I don't care if I ever hear another Pink Floyd song again. I've had more than enough.
Same as always, to each his own, smoke what ya like... :tu

I am like this in that I can't listen to classic rock to save my life. I heard it new, I heard it as the
alternative to the new 70s and 80's am POP, I heard it as the 'classic alternative to alternative.
I have heard it over and over til I am blue in the face with it. That's why I latched on completely to punk
and alternative music. I didn't care what it was as long as it was NEW. That was great stuff in the 60s
and 70s, but don't make me listen to it now. I made it even worse on myself when I was in the service.
I had already lived the genre, then I would go down to the Sound Shop at the Gulfport mall and buy 'cutouts'.
People who are old like me remember cutouts. They were out of print record albums that had been lined up
in long stacks and had a circular saw run over the right hand corner, removing a half inch piece of the album cover.
For a buck apiece, I bought all these records, 100's of em and played them all over again for ten MORE years.
Yeah, I am done with classic rock, lol.


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