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skullnrose 09-26-2011 10:37 AM

I just discovered Coffee
 
First things first until a week ago I never drank a cup of coffee in my life. My fiance drinks coffee and we have a drip machine and a Keurig. I've always loved the smell of coffee for whatever reason I just never drank it.

Because I'm not the type to just leave well enough alone I start reading everything I can about coffee and decide since she seems to really enjoy coffee she deserves to enjoy "Better" Coffee.

Enter the Aeropress, Capresso Infinity Grinder and Unclebeanz Negrita coffee. The stars align and this stuff all arrives on the same day. I'm like a kid on Christmas morning and can't wait to do a trial run so I can show her how easy it is to brew a "Better" cup of coffee.

I do drink tea and love gadgets so we already own a Zojirushi CV-DSC40 water dispencer which I use to fill the Aeropress using the inverted method.This whole process is reminding me not only how much I enjoy a good cigar but also the art and ritual that goes into lighting it.

I'm starring down into the mug of my fresh brew and figure I should really taste this stuff. Flashing back again to how I discovered cigars by first loving the smell this is all seemingly to familiar to me. I have visions of the cliff ahead but still continue on topping off with hot water a touch of half/half and a sugar in the raw. I give it a quick stir and take my first sip.

By now you can see where this is going. It's been a week I haven't tried it pure black yet but I can tell this is the direction I'm heading. I'm now leaving out the sugar and using less half/half and enjoying 2-3 cups a day.

My fiance you wonder ? Well I set her up with a little unscientific blind taste test. A cup from the keurig, a cup of some ground kona blend from the drip and a cup from my newly discoverd Aunt Aero and Unclebeanz. She knows me well and that when I get into something I go into it full tilt so I'm sure shes trying to pick any other than the aeropressed cup but her honesty and tastebuds lead her to choose just that.

All of this leaves me with many thoughts. I already know I'll only purchase whole beans but what about roasting my own? I'm sure well keep the keurig for that quick cup on the run. I would like to find someone local( I'm in NJ) that owns a roaster and experience the process first hand.

I'd love to hear your thoughts, tips tricks ect... French Press, Moka pot, Expresso machine,Roaster, The rule of 15's and such.

Thanks for taking the time to read this !

Blak Smyth 09-26-2011 10:42 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
It's another slippery slope! Enjoy!

Mr B 09-26-2011 10:53 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Check out Sweet Marias for green beans and lots of tutorials on Home Roasting.
I prefer brewing in a French Press.
I also add Silk Creamer and sugar. Always have and always will.

Drink it how you like it.

:tu

cobra03 09-26-2011 11:07 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
So many slippery slopes around this place! You cant go wrong with a french press. :2

ghostrider 09-26-2011 12:50 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
On my quest for the perfect cup of coffee, I stumbled upon (read shoved down the slope my Mr Moo) the joys of home roasting. I now have about a dozen different ways to brew my coffee. I was amazed what a difference fresh roasted beans make, and the incredible variety of flavors available depending on the country of origin.

Welcome to the slope ;)

phicks85 09-26-2011 02:59 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I have to agree that the french press is the way to go. You get so many more of those nice oils into your mug instead of them being stuck in a filter.

Skywalker 09-27-2011 03:40 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Congrats Scott!!!:noon

Welcome to yet another slope!!!
:r

BTW, coffee is soooo good with cigars!:dr

WittyUserName 09-27-2011 07:12 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I have been holding off on the coffee stuff for quite some time now. I almost pulled the trigger on a syphon system a year ago but decided not to go down that slope. Since seeing the OP I have been searching Amazon and adding grinders, electric kettles, hario dripper and filters to my wish list. That is the first step to purchase for me. Just have to hold out a little while longer.

ashtonlady 09-27-2011 08:37 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
What is a Hario Dripper?

forgop 09-27-2011 08:50 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Keurig < French Press < Cold Brewed

This was my path to drinking coffee anyway.

skullnrose 09-27-2011 09:13 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I just ordered a French press and look forward to trying it out. I have been using the metal filter with the Aeropress and notice it passes on more of the oils compared to the paper filters. While searching for a french press I stumbled on the Espro press which sounds great other than its 70.00 and only brews 8oz. http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/ I'm real close to ordering the Behmor 1600 Roaster unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Mister Moo 09-28-2011 05:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1422893)
...I'm real close to ordering the Behmor 1600 Roaster unless someone can convince me otherwise.

;s

Stop. Rethink. Do not allow your enthusiasm to misdirect you.

Your opening post clearly reveals you need to defer all other expenditures until you have selected and purchased a killer grinder. I suggest you take any money you might spend on anything coffee and immediately divert it to a grinder. You have all the key indicators of needing a Mazzer Mini, Macap or, at the very least, a Rancilio Rocky.

You cannot build a house by starting with shingles. The best possible grinder - one for a lifetime, ideally - is the foundation upon which your world of great coffees are brewed and poured. If you only ever wanted coffee from a press or, maybe, a mokapot, I'd say "You gonna LOVE that Infinity" but, you won't. There is no guesswork here; you can take that to the bank.

Enjoy whatever. :tu

WittyUserName 09-28-2011 06:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtonlady (Post 1422875)
What is a Hario Dripper?

This:

http://www.amazon.com/Hario-VDC-02W-...=1M7F98GSZWMS8

This paired with fresh roasted beans, a grinder and an electric kettle will make you a fresh cup every time.

floydpink 09-28-2011 09:21 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1422893)
I just ordered a French press and look forward to trying it out. I have been using the metal filter with the Aeropress and notice it passes on more of the oils compared to the paper filters. While searching for a french press I stumbled on the Espro press which sounds great other than its 70.00 and only brews 8oz. http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/ I'm real close to ordering the Behmor 1600 Roaster unless someone can convince me otherwise.

I have a Behmor 1600 and love it. It's served me well for 2 years now.

I came close to going the popcorn popper route, but am glad I got the Behmor.

I'm not going to say to get the grinder first because it would be too sensible. I learned that the hard way and it wouldn't be fair to let someone benefit off my experience.

If you decide to go the correct route, Moo is correct about Mazzers and Macaps. (I'm a Macap owner, and he's a Mazzer owner)

Skywalker 09-28-2011 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1422893)
I. While searching for a french press I stumbled on the Espro press which sounds great other than its 70.00 and only brews 8oz. http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/.

Same principle as a French Press... but you can find a nice French Press for much cheaper.

germantown rob 09-28-2011 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 1423540)
Same principle as a French Press... but you can find a nice French Press for much cheaper.

Cleaner cup then FP. $70 is a lot of money but it is a small company just starting out.

germantown rob 09-28-2011 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1422893)
I just ordered a French press and look forward to trying it out. I have been using the metal filter with the Aeropress and notice it passes on more of the oils compared to the paper filters. While searching for a french press I stumbled on the Espro press which sounds great other than its 70.00 and only brews 8oz. http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/ I'm real close to ordering the Behmor 1600 Roaster unless someone can convince me otherwise.

I have to agree with Mister Moo, run while you still can. It all starts with a few brew devices, a good burr grinder, fresh roasted coffee, then you find yourself thinking roasting would be nice and it will bring the cost of buying that already roasted fresh roast, it leads to harder stuff. Next thing you know you have 2 6'x4'x3' shelves covered with brew devices, roasters, green coffee beans, then there is the commercial roaster in the garage, the multiple grinders and espresso machines and now talking with Atlas importers discussing whole and 1/2 bags of green beans, picking up 5lbs of Don Pachi Geisha beans from Panama, and finding yourself crying like a baby when a container of Ethiopia Nekisse bound for the USA is stolen. Is this what you want?

SteelCityBoy 09-28-2011 05:23 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Can't wait to try a Liga Privada with a great cup of coffee...SOUNDS DELECIOUS!

Savor the Stick 09-28-2011 07:51 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1421137)
It's another slippery slope! Enjoy!

I was going to post that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1422893)
I just ordered a French press and look forward to trying it out. I have been using the metal filter with the Aeropress and notice it passes on more of the oils compared to the paper filters. While searching for a french press I stumbled on the Espro press which sounds great other than its 70.00 and only brews 8oz. http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/ I'm real close to ordering the Behmor 1600 Roaster unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Where did you get the metal filter from? Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 1423023)
;s

Stop. Rethink. Do not allow your enthusiasm to misdirect you.

Your opening post clearly reveals you need to defer all other expenditures until you have selected and purchased a killer grinder. I suggest you take any money you might spend on anything coffee and immediately divert it to a grinder. You have all the key indicators of needing a Mazzer Mini, Macap or, at the very least, a Rancilio Rocky.

You cannot build a house by starting with shingles. The best possible grinder - one for a lifetime, ideally - is the foundation upon which your world of great coffees are brewed and poured. If you only ever wanted coffee from a press or, maybe, a mokapot, I'd say "You gonna LOVE that Infinity" but, you won't. There is no guesswork here; you can take that to the bank.

Enjoy whatever. :tu

Well I usually would agree with Moo...he has a great amount of wisdom in the coffee arts. (no offense Dan)

BUT....I have the Capresso Infinity Grinder and a Moka, and a French Press and an Aero Press and don't want to go any further. Oh I also roast my own green beans.

Suffice to say everyone is different and their tastes are therefore different...unless you are wanting to get into espresso coffee and the high priced machines (nothing wrong with that) to make it, think long and hard where your coffee journey is taking you.

God Bless and have a great cup and smoke.

skullnrose 09-28-2011 08:39 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Savor the Stick (Post 1423759)
I was going to post that!



Where did you get the metal filter from? Thanks.



Well I usually would agree with Moo...he has a great amount of wisdom in the coffee arts. (no offense Dan)

BUT....I have the Capresso Infinity Grinder and a Moka, and a French Press and an Aero Press and don't want to go any further. Oh I also roast my own green beans.

Suffice to say everyone is different and their tastes are therefore different...unless you are wanting to get into espresso coffee and the high priced machines (nothing wrong with that) to make it, think long and hard where your coffee journey is taking you.

God Bless and have a great cup and smoke.

The filter I ordered from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Stai...7263935&sr=8-2 There are a few different ones but this one seems to work just fine.

Volusianator 09-28-2011 08:45 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Actually, coffee was discovered well before 9/26/2011! :r


Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1421132)
I just discovered Coffee


germantown rob 09-28-2011 10:25 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skullnrose (Post 1423810)
The filter I ordered from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Stai...7263935&sr=8-2 There are a few different ones but this one seems to work just fine.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmari...ss-brewer.html

http://marrowmag.com/coffee/coava-di...coffee-filter/

RCS44 10-08-2011 06:56 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I am starting to become a big coffee drinker myself. I never used to be but when i started college, those late nights can be killer. Coffee has saved me more times than i can count. I tend to lean toward to Starbucks coffee, but it is pricy. What is a good alternative coffee that has the same great taste?

Starz26 10-08-2011 08:40 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Curious to know, is Starbucks to coffee what Acids are to cigars. I mean where a lot of people start out but when they discover the real thing and it is a completely different experience........

I love Starbucks coffee but if this roasting and brewing your own thing is better, I may have to take the slide down the slope as well...

Savor the Stick 10-08-2011 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26 (Post 1433862)
Curious to know, is Starbucks to coffee what Acids are to cigars. I mean where a lot of people start out but when they discover the real thing and it is a completely different experience........

I love Starbucks coffee but if this roasting and brewing your own thing is better, I may have to take the slide down the slope as well...

You catch on very quickly. It is exactly the same; I am forever ruined; in that I can't buy and enjoy coffee at a restaurant....there is no going back once you have had the fresh stuff.

Really once you have had coffee that was roasted 18 hours before, and ground a few minutes before you brew it.....:dr it is orgasmic!

When you have had the real stuff...you'll NEVER go back to Charbucks coffee.

skullnrose 10-09-2011 05:00 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I've never had starbucks coffee so I can't comment on their coffee. I can tell you that even the simple task of grinding your own beans compared to buying ground coffee makes a big difference. I'd say the comparison is more like a non cuban cigar vs a cuban cigar where at least to me I find more depth of flavor in a cuban cigar and more depth of flavor in beans I grind myself. I haven't roasted my own beans yet but in a short time I will. I imagine the difference between buying roasted vs roasting your own to be like a cuban cigar vs an aged cuban cigar I guess only time will tell.

Resipsa 10-09-2011 06:47 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCS44 (Post 1433782)
I am starting to become a big coffee drinker myself. I never used to be but when i started college, those late nights can be killer. Coffee has saved me more times than i can count. I tend to lean toward to Starbucks coffee, but it is pricy. What is a good alternative coffee that has the same great taste?


You're in Chicago,which is loaded with good coffee. Intelligentsia for one makes far better coffee than Starbucks.
Starbucks has it's fans. Having said that, many coffee fans feel they ruin their coffee but over roasting the beans. Go someplace like Intelligentsia or any good coffee roaster, compare the two and decide for yourself.

alvenswiz 10-14-2011 03:47 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
I have to buy a new filter..But was wondering which filter should I buy.Can anyone recommend which filter will be good and worth purchasing...

Mister Moo 10-14-2011 05:07 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26 (Post 1433862)
Curious to know, is Starbucks to coffee what Acids are to cigars...

Ba da bing
Ba da boom
:banger

Mister Moo 10-14-2011 05:09 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alvenswiz (Post 1440072)
I have to buy a new filter..But was wondering which filter should I buy.Can anyone recommend which filter will be good and worth purchasing...

Filter for what?

w squared 10-20-2011 06:57 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 1423023)
;s

Stop. Rethink. Do not allow your enthusiasm to misdirect you.

Your opening post clearly reveals you need to defer all other expenditures until you have selected and purchased a killer grinder. I suggest you take any money you might spend on anything coffee and immediately divert it to a grinder. You have all the key indicators of needing a Mazzer Mini, Macap or, at the very least, a Rancilio Rocky.

These are wise words. I've had a long, sordid, and sometimes painful affair with coffee. We've now come to an awkward truce - I've spent a moderately silly amount of money for good tools, and continue to give her far too much money, far too often for good beans. In return, she tortures me by giving me unpredictable glimpses of her perfection on the mornings that I am able to sweet-talk her "just so". :tu

I'll spare you the boring details of this affair, but I'll say this about grinders. Do it once, do it right. I've owned four grinders in the past five years. The money that I wasted on sub-par grinders would have easily covered the cost of the grinder that I ended up purchasing.

A small blade grinder (don't bother unless you're going to use it just for spices)
An inexpensive burr grinder (better, and acceptable if all you're ever going to do is French Press and you don't mind a bunch of "fines" muddying up your cup of coffee)
Another inexpensive burr grinder (first one was broken and I didn't know any better at the time)
A Baratza Vario - purchased after I upgraded to a better espresso machine with a non-pressurized portafilter and figured out that inconsistent grind size was messing with my mojo.

You seem to do the same thing that I do...research, and then experiment...and you don't seem to be happy with less-than-good results. A good grinder will be a huge help for any style of coffee preparation, and is absolutely vital if you want to make good espresso. If you're going to make espresso, you're going to bitterly disappointed in a grinder that can't produce a fine, consistent, finely adjustable grind. Even if you never end up making espresso, a first-rate grinder will probably make a bigger contribution to good end results than any other piece of equipment that you can purchase.

Savor the Stick 10-20-2011 12:44 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by germantown rob (Post 1423606)
I have to agree with Mister Moo, run while you still can. It all starts with a few brew devices, a good burr grinder, fresh roasted coffee, then you find yourself thinking roasting would be nice and it will bring the cost of buying that already roasted fresh roast, it leads to harder stuff. Next thing you know you have 2 6'x4'x3' shelves covered with brew devices, roasters, green coffee beans, then there is the commercial roaster in the garage, the multiple grinders and espresso machines and now talking with Atlas importers discussing whole and 1/2 bags of green beans, picking up 5lbs of Don Pachi Geisha beans from Panama, and finding yourself crying like a baby when a container of Ethiopia Nekisse bound for the USA is stolen. Is this what you want?


:lr

I just re-read this post

:lrHa Ha Ha
Rob you are so funny.....:sad but this is so true.

Run while you can.




:cf1

Taki 10-20-2011 12:58 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Not a huge coffee fan but Shane (BlakSmyth) has been pushing me to try it. Maybe this weekend!!

KenyanSandBoa 10-20-2011 01:33 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taki (Post 1447486)
Not a huge coffee fan but Shane (BlakSmyth) has been pushing me to try it. Maybe this weekend!!

Is there a point to life without coffee???:D

If you try a good quality coffee you may appreciate it more. I can be all over the map at times. Sometime I like a medium, well balanced coffee...sometime I like a lighter, brighter, slightly acidic coffee...and some times I like my coffee to look like molasses.

Try to decide what flavor profile would suit you best, and then pick your coffee from there.

:2 Enjoy...:cf1

w squared 10-27-2011 04:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenyanSandBoa (Post 1447536)
Is there a point to life without coffee???:D

Sometime I like a medium, well balanced coffee...sometime I like a lighter, brighter, slightly acidic coffee...and some times I like my coffee to look like molasses.

Here I was, thinking that I was the only one that suffered from a multiple coffee personality disorder.

Blak Smyth 10-27-2011 05:33 AM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taki (Post 1447486)
Not a huge coffee fan but Shane (BlakSmyth) has been pushing me to try it. Maybe this weekend!!

Hmmm I might have to push a little harder! Didn't think I had much of a chance of turning you but now I know! Muuahahahahaha

Montano 10-27-2011 05:14 PM

Re: I just discovered Coffee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 1422632)
Congrats Scott!!!:noon

Welcome to yet another slope!!!
:r

BTW, coffee is soooo good with cigars!:dr

:tpd:


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