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thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:22 AM

Getting sick from cigars.
 
So I've had my share of feeling light headed and feeling like fainting sometimes when I smoke a strong cigar...I hate it, but sometimes it happens. I've never got to a point to where I felt like I was going to throw up. Though, sometimes I wish I would just to get over the sickness feeling.

Last night, my brother and I went to a cigar event at a casino that has a cigar lounge and we each smoked 2 cigars in a respectable amount of time. We didn't chain smoke them and we took our time. We both smoked an HC Robusto (the event cigar) and then smoked something different afterward. I smoked an Ambos Mundos, which was very nice I may add, and my brother had a Tatuaje Havana VI. We both know how strong Tats can be sometimes but my brother said his wasn't that bad at all. He finished his cigar after I got done with mine and then we left to go home. We probably spent another 15 minutes before we actually left because we stopped into the cigar lounge to pick up some humipacks. Probably about 20-30 minutes after having the last cigar, we were driving and out of no where my brother (who was driving) suddenly didn't feel so well. He said he never felt light headed or anything from the cigars he smoked. He said that his hands instantly felt numb and ended up puking before he was able to pull over. Unfortunately spraying the driver side of the dash and steering wheel with a wonderful amount of icky stuff. Especially in a new car he just got an Audi A3.

So we finally get pulled over and I'm yelling, get out of the car now. And I rushed out (he thought I was going to puke cuz of him puking) but I was more worried about the interior of his car. He had no towels or anything in his car. But he did have aftermarket seat covers on the front seats just to keep the original seats cleaner so I pulled those off and used those to clean up what I could and found a sweatshirt in the back seat to use and he took his shirt off and used that. A State Patrol car pulled up and we told them what happened and they couldn't help much since they had no towels or anything. For the most part we cleaned up what we could and he headed straight home after dropping me off and finished cleaning. It was a crap load of projectile but we got most of it up and luckily he had the nice rubber floor mats that caught a lot of it that went on the floor. So the carpet was safe. The dash and steering wheel was fine, my only concern was the air vents for the AC/heat.

So yeah....he must have gotten sick from either one of the cigars he had. We both smoked the same cigar first and I felt fine from it and he said he did too. We both had dinner before the event as well. He got sick before and threw up another time (about a month ago) but he saw that one coming when he felt light headed already and what not. Luckily that time was outside out of view when that happened. Last night's incident just kind of happened out of nowhere since he felt fine after smoking the cigar.

Sorry for the long story.

So has anyone else had a surprise sickness from smoking a cigar?

My brother and I smoke Tats every so often since we both have a box or 2 in our own humidors, so it's not like anything new to us. And we've both smoked way stronger cigars before and came out feeling fine or a little buzzed but nowhere close to getting sick.

Any thoughts or similar situations?

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:23 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Holy crap...sorry for the big post.

Blak Smyth 08-31-2011 07:30 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
I know you can get sick from too much nicotene but I have never thrown up.
I ussualy have cream soda or something with sugar to help counteract the sick feeling.
One time I started to feel sick and just ate some sugar, a few minutes later I was fine.
The only time I ever smoked an Opus X the room was spinning for about 20 minutes, that was the worst I ever experienced. I have only felt more than a small buzz 3 times from smoking cigars. As long as I eat first I seem to be fine.

That was a long disgusting story you posted, and it was his car and his vomit so I woulda been like have fun with that! Haha.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:32 AM

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haha, sorry about it sounding so gross, but I had to share.

we both had a feel meal before the cigar event and we both had some regular cokes so we can get some sugar in us though we were feeling just fine.

Blak Smyth 08-31-2011 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393663)
haha, sorry about it sounding so gross, but I had to share.

we both had a feel meal before the cigar event and we both had some regular cokes so we can get some sugar in us though we were feeling just fine.

Maybe it wasn't the cigar?

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:33 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Plus he's my brother, I had to help him. Plus it's a new car. I wanted to get it cleaned ASAP since he had crap all over himself.

Blak Smyth 08-31-2011 07:33 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
:np

:pu:pu

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:34 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1393665)
Maybe it wasn't the cigar?

I was thinking that...but he had a huge club sandwich before the event and I couldn't figure what in the sandwich would make him sick. It's not like he had undercooked meat or something. I just think the nicotine caught up to him.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1393669)
:np

:pu:pu

:r last thing I was gonna do was take a pic of vomit all over the car and himself.

Emjaysmash 08-31-2011 07:36 AM

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was the event inside? Was there a good amount of people? He probably got more nicotine in his system then he realized.

Mattso3000 08-31-2011 07:39 AM

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Had this happen once at a cigar event. Smoked last years skull and bones, a viaje exclusivo, and last years VOR back to back to back. The shop was packed and I'm sure I picked up a lot of second hand smoke as well. Got home and was taking the dog out for a walk and felt fine and just threw up. Never felt sick at all, it just spontaneously happened and I was fine again. Kept walking the dog like nothing happened and hoped no one saw it.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:42 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1393675)
was the event inside? Was there a good amount of people? He probably got more nicotine in his system then he realized.

Yeah, it was inside. The Casino has a cigar lounge but they didn't hold the event in there. They did the event in a bigger space where the night club is. There was a fair amount of people but not too smokey at all. It's been way more crowded other times they did events in there for cigars and came out feeling fine. Plus this happened like 20-30 minutes after he finished the cigar and he looked fine and felt fine. Sometimes I can tell if he's feeling crappy, I can see it in his face sometimes. But he looked just fine. I think it just snuck up on him.

maninblack 08-31-2011 07:43 AM

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When I first started smoking cigars, I would get stomach aches and chills all the time. Now this could have been the nicotine or the fact that I smoked nasty dog rockets because I was broke. Now I can smoke those strong ones without any effects. My body is used to them. And I don't smoke crappy sticks anymore.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 07:44 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattso3000 (Post 1393679)
Had this happen once at a cigar event. Smoked last years skull and bones, a viaje exclusivo, and last years VOR back to back to back. The shop was packed and I'm sure I picked up a lot of second hand smoke as well. Got home and was taking the dog out for a walk and felt fine and just threw up. Never felt sick at all, it just spontaneously happened and I was fine again. Kept walking the dog like nothing happened and hoped no one saw it.

So you never felt light headed or anything? Sounds like what happened to my brother. The other time he got sick and threw up from a cigar he felt light headed and stuff first. So that's a different story, but at least he had some sort of warning to get outside.

Subvet642 08-31-2011 07:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393671)
I was thinking that...but he had a huge club sandwich before the event and I couldn't figure what in the sandwich would make him sick. It's not like he had undercooked meat or something. I just think the nicotine caught up to him.

If the lettuce or tomato wasn't washed properly, they could have been contaminated with E. Coli.

Hippiebrian 08-31-2011 07:45 AM

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Keep sugar with you if you are prone to this. Nicotine is a stimulant that works with your blood sugar burning it off. If the balance between the sugar and the nicotine is okay, it won't build up. If your sugar gets too low, nicotine will build up and make you overdose. A quick sugar fix (sugar cube, candy, soda, etc.) will usually fix the spins.

WittyUserName 08-31-2011 07:50 AM

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Is the car alright?




I hope he is feeling better and the car had been detailed.

pnoon 08-31-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1393688)
If the lettuce or tomato wasn't washed properly, they could have been contaminated with E. Coli.

Not to mention spoiled bacon or deli meats. Bad mayo perhaps.

Must be the cigars. :rolleyes:
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Skywalker 08-31-2011 07:53 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Was there any drinking (alcohol) involved?

If not, I'm thinking his system was already weak before you started with the cigars!

Jasonw560 08-31-2011 07:58 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Never had this happen to me. Of course, I am always drinking sweet tea or a Dr Pepper when I smoke something full-flavored.

I agree about the food. Could have been something rank in there.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 08:00 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
We only had 1 drink but we had it with the first cigar. We drank Coke with the 2nd cigar.

I thought about the food thing but then again, he puked from a cigar before so I was going with that again, hahaha.

irratebass 08-31-2011 08:00 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Sorry about your brother dude, never happened to me, but I haven't tried a lot of cigars either, just a handful and def not either one of the ones you guys had.

Like someone else said, are sure it was the cigar that made him sick?

hotreds 08-31-2011 08:00 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Sounds to me like it wasn't the cigars.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 08:00 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
The car should be alright. I told him what to do when he got home to clean it. My only concern was the air vents on the car. Everything else picked up easily.

Hippiebrian 08-31-2011 08:02 AM

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The more I think about it, I don't think it was the cigars either. Everyone I've ever seen get sick from cigars, it was immediate, not later.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 08:08 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
I'll have to talk to him when he wakes up. I texted him this morning but it seems like he ended up skipping work today. He probably was up later than expecting to clean his car.

It may just have well been the food. It's probably a good thing he did throw up though instead of getting more sick from the food. Hopefully he got it all out of his body. I've never had food poisoning but I know you can puke and get more sick after you already have puked.

DPD6030 08-31-2011 08:11 AM

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I can tell you I was a rookie and smoked an LFD double ligero chisel...that made me sick as hell and I ended up vomiting. Room spun, stomach was bad, took lots of sugar but it was too late. :pu off the balcony.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 08:13 AM

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I'm leaning more towards the cigar again. My brother takes a medicine that lowers his blood pressure and I think the nicotine made it drop even more and caused it. My wife just reminded me that his medicine he takes will lower his blood levels. I think he just didn't have enough sugar in him even though it never affected him by making him feel light headed or anything.

DPD6030 08-31-2011 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393739)
I'll have to talk to him when he wakes up. I texted him this morning but it seems like he ended up skipping work today. He probably was up later than expecting to clean his car.

It may just have well been the food. It's probably a good thing he did throw up though instead of getting more sick from the food. Hopefully he got it all out of his body. I've never had food poisoning but I know you can puke and get more sick after you already have puked.

I've had food poisoning as well. Each time it set in within 2-12 hours after I ate something. It is not fun at all. Coming out of both ends at the same time and you literally can't keep anything down including water.

Remo 08-31-2011 08:13 AM

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Could have been cigars or food, but too much Nicky-Teen will make a peson sick, especially if he is not a heavy cigar smoker. My .02

Hippiebrian 08-31-2011 08:19 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393751)
I'm leaning more towards the cigar again. My brother takes a medicine that lowers his blood pressure and I think the nicotine made it drop even more and caused it. My wife just reminded me that his medicine he takes will lower his blood levels. I think he just didn't have enough sugar in him even though it never affected him by making him feel light headed or anything.

I'm not a doctor. Heck, I don't even play one on T.V. So take this with a grain of salt, but nicotine is a stimulant which actually will raise your blood pressure. I'm still leaning towards not the cigar, but I could be wrong...

pektel 08-31-2011 08:23 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattso3000 (Post 1393679)
Had this happen once at a cigar event. Smoked last years skull and bones, a viaje exclusivo, and last years VOR back to back to back. The shop was packed and I'm sure I picked up a lot of second hand smoke as well. Got home and was taking the dog out for a walk and felt fine and just threw up. Never felt sick at all, it just spontaneously happened and I was fine again. Kept walking the dog like nothing happened and hoped no one saw it.

Yay for professional puking! I have had a few incidents (drinking induced, not smoking) where a bunch of us have been walking from the bar to our DD's car, and just been too full from slamming the rest of the tall beer. Not sick spinny drunk, just too full of foam. Let it go, and didn't even break stride.

That was in another life though.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 08:23 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippiebrian (Post 1393765)
I'm not a doctor. Heck, I don't even play one on T.V. So take this with a grain of salt, but nicotine is a stimulant which actually will raise your blood pressure. I'm still leaning towards not the cigar, but I could be wrong...

oh it raises it? I thought it lowered it. my bad. shows ya how much I know.

well then now I don't know. I'll have to wait and see till I talk to my brother and see how he feels.

icehog3 08-31-2011 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393671)
I was thinking that...but he had a huge club sandwich before the event and I couldn't figure what in the sandwich would make him sick. It's not like he had undercooked meat or something. I just think the nicotine caught up to him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1393688)
If the lettuce or tomato wasn't washed properly, they could have been contaminated with E. Coli.

Mayonaise. ;)

loki 08-31-2011 09:26 AM

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teal deer


try downing a packet of sugar next time

floydpink 08-31-2011 09:32 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
A couple years ago I was at Daytona Bike week and bought a sausage and pepper sandwich off a nice girl in tattoos and a bikini working a cart on Main Street. Chased it with a sorta cold Bud. Then i lit up a Fuente Anejo.

Riding home on Interstate 4, my hands became clammy, I was sweating profusely, and pulled over to puke in a drainage ditch as rush hour traffic passed. I felt grateful I wasn't performing a multi-port food rejection on my hands and knees.

Sausage from a tattooed girl on Main Street never crossed my mind so I gave away the rest of my Anejos.

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 09:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loki (Post 1393852)
teal deer


try downing a packet of sugar next time

Like I said, we drank some soda and neither of us were feeling icky at all. Just got some sodas just cuz the we were thirsty and yeah, the sugar would be good anyways. This just came up unexpectedly.

pektel 08-31-2011 09:54 AM

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I actually keep a ziplock of jelly beans around just in case I get too large a dose of nicotine. Haven't needed it in quite some time, but they are there just in case.

Zanaspus 08-31-2011 10:51 AM

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Nicotine is just another drug that the body builds a tolerance to. Keep smoking, smoke more! :noon

gbum 08-31-2011 11:05 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
i had it once... with my first time cc bolivar,it was an event at my local b&m... had a little food.. drank some juice and coke...everything fine... got a bit of nit kickin and eat some sugar... on my way home..stop at petrol station to take a piss... end up:pu all over the toilet...

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbum (Post 1393955)
i had it once... with my first time cc bolivar,it was an event at my local b&m... had a little food.. drank some juice and coke...everything fine... got a bit of nit kickin and eat some sugar... on my way home..stop at petrol station to take a piss... end up:pu all over the toilet...

My brother had a CC Bolivar 2 weekends ago. Kind of kicked his butt but he rebounded just fine. Luckily for you you hit the toilet, unlike my bro, got himself and the dash of his nice car. haha. I never freaked out so quickly to clean something up. I was concerned about the car more than him. I was like, GET THE F**K OUT OF THE CAR! Unfortunately we were moving when it happened, just didn't have enough time to pull over and stop and do it outside.

gbum 08-31-2011 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom (Post 1393962)
My brother had a CC Bolivar 2 weekends ago. Kind of kicked his butt but he rebounded just fine. Luckily for you you hit the toilet, unlike my bro, got himself and the dash of his nice car. haha. I never freaked out so quickly to clean something up. I was concerned about the car more than him. I was like, GET THE F**K OUT OF THE CAR! Unfortunately we were moving when it happened, just didn't have enough time to pull over and stop and do it outside.

haha i can imagine that... with the new A3..duhhh:bh

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 11:33 AM

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I got an update from his roommate. He went to my parents last night and swapped cars. I think they're taking his car to a detailer or something. He's at home just sleeping or something. I mentioned the food poisoning thing but his roommate thinks it was just the cigar because she hasn't heard him running to the bathroom several times or anything.

CasaDooley 08-31-2011 12:13 PM

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:hm Just a guess here, but I think it was........."The salmon mousse!!!":r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UBQFXQUqxE


Sorry Bro. When I Herf, I do it with food in my gut, drink plenty of fluids and gulp down a couple of sugar packets=no bed spins and puking. Seems to work for me.:2

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 12:24 PM

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Like I said...he got no spins or anything when we were done smoking our cigars. It just kind of happened all of a sudden.

Volusianator 08-31-2011 12:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1393669)
:np

:pu:pu

No thank you!

ckay 08-31-2011 03:25 PM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Great post! Only a brother would clean up after the other. I've had my fair share of surprise projectile. Both after big meals. Never a fun thing to do.

SvilleKid 08-31-2011 04:53 PM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Kinda on the line of this thread?!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48094

thechrisdotcom 08-31-2011 05:18 PM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SvilleKid (Post 1394314)
Kinda on the line of this thread?!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48094

haha, this wasn't a topic I was going to search on. bad enough with the story I have.

vinnydisilvio 09-01-2011 01:11 AM

Re: Getting sick from cigars.
 
oh for sure i've been sick from cigars before. probably 5 times that i can remember.

sometimes i feel light-headed before i puke, sometimes not as much. sometimes i smoke cigars way past the point they taste bitter (just because i don't wanna give up the cigar yet) and puke from that. stubbornness gets me there.

but there have been times i've puked because of other things still related to the cigar. the one time i smoked a Brickhouse robusto i was definitely overwhelmed because of the rampant pepper throughout the smoke. i puked about 10 minutes after i was inside the house. the other time it was after a Casa Magna Colorado. it was a delicious cigar but i guess it got the best of me. again it was about 10-15 minutes later. probably didn't help that i immediately ate soup right after the cigar. that was just stupidity. usually if i puke after a cigar it's because i didn't sit there long enough and let whatever i was feeling wear off.

i've heard about the sugar thing but i've also heard that sugar is most effective for staving off "cigar-sickness" if you put the sugar/candy/etc. directly under your tongue for a few seconds because it absorbs into your bloodstream easier. it worked for me the one time i tried it.

hope your brother's doing better!


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