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icehog3 06-20-2011 02:48 PM

'Jackass' star Ryan Dunn dies in fiery Pa. crash
 
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn, who along with his cast mates made Americans cringe and snicker through vulgar stunts in their multimillion-dollar TV and movie franchise, was killed early Monday in a fiery car crash. He was 34.

Dunn, a daredevil who gained notoriety for diving into a sewage tank and performing other unsavory stunts, was driving his 2007 Porsche in suburban Philadelphia when it careered off the road, flipped over a guardrail and crashed into the woods before bursting into flames. A passenger was also killed, and speed may have been a factor in the crash, West Goshen Township police said.

neoflex 06-20-2011 02:51 PM

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Saw this earlier today. Sadly it's not too surprising but still a waste. They were also saying that he Tweeted pictures of him and friends drinking a few hours before the crash and think alcohol played a part in it.

EricF 06-20-2011 02:53 PM

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Sad, but not surprised.

GolfNut 06-20-2011 03:04 PM

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Jackass.

(oh come on, someone had to say it!)

SDmate 06-20-2011 03:11 PM

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RIP

the car
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/06/20/0...-02-credit.jpg




http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/06/20/0...car-assetr.jpg

GolfNut 06-20-2011 03:13 PM

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ah geez.... ^

acarr 06-20-2011 03:14 PM

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and the last picture no rims. Too bad, as stupid or jackass the stunts were, I still enjoyed them. RIP

The Poet 06-20-2011 03:15 PM

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Wow, can you imagine how fast he was going, to turn the car into shredded scrap like that?

So sad, and so predictable. RIP.

BC-Axeman 06-20-2011 03:24 PM

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But the real question is.....
Did they get it on video?



R.I.P.

loki 06-20-2011 03:27 PM

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they were just filming for jackass 5...or whatever number they're on now

SteveH 06-20-2011 04:16 PM

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Ya....sad.

Although have to say - living in the same community with these guys....they weren't well received. What they did for the films was one thing - but having a bunch of adult children who never grew up flying around town got old. Its funny on film - but they really were jackasses day in and day out..The town of West Chester made them persona non grata for the most part..So this car antic was no surprise.

You should see the lambo they 'play' with on some of the back roads.

kelmac07 06-20-2011 06:54 PM

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Sad but predictable. Actually surprised a few of the other Jacka$$ fellas haven't fallen.

Drez 06-20-2011 07:59 PM

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Sad to lose a life. Rip

VirtualSmitty 06-20-2011 09:02 PM

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Sad but not surprising.

the nub 06-20-2011 09:29 PM

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Hoax. He posted on Facebook. it was supposed to be to film friend/family reaction for a movie.

icehog3 06-20-2011 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the nub (Post 1305145)
Hoax. He posted on Facebook. it was supposed to be to film friend/family reaction for a movie.

His death has been widely reported by reliable news agencies, I am sure any Facebook post is the hoax.

pnoon 06-20-2011 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1305150)
His death has been widely reported by reliable news agencies, I am sure any Facebook post is the hoax.

:tpd:
Anonymous experts have confirmed it. ;)

SteveH 06-20-2011 09:37 PM

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Ummm....I don't think WGPD and PSP would play into a hoax...

Genetic Defect 06-20-2011 11:18 PM

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Was drinking Involved

icehog3 06-20-2011 11:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 1305274)
Was drinking Involved

Looks like it was. :(

Genetic Defect 06-20-2011 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1305276)
Looks like it was. :(

:( people should know there limits get someone else to drive you home. :(


RIP

icehog3 06-20-2011 11:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 1305279)
:( people should know there limits get someone else to drive you home. :(


RIP

Agreed....a waste of a funny human being.

MedicCook 06-20-2011 11:39 PM

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http://youtu.be/wRxRiWEMIJY

Ryan Dunn - Shopping Cart

NSFW - Language

NeuRon 06-21-2011 03:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1305152)
:tpd:
Anonymous experts have confirmed it. ;)


LOLOL... So it MUST be legit :r

Starscream 06-21-2011 08:31 AM

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Sad to hear. He was my favorite of the CKY crew.

Rest in peace, brother.

Bill86 06-22-2011 02:41 PM

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Sad to hear I always liked watching Jackass when it came out.

Seems they are saying he was driving at ~.20 BAC(.196 or some $hit) at 132-140 MPH. I just wonder if their tests account for the fact that he was probably drunker than that at the time of entering the car.

My question is why would the bar serve him 2.5+ times the legal limit.....Someone there needs to lose their job and is partially responsible for what happened. Sure you are ultimately responsible for yourself but would you serve someone that just turned 21 drinks until they black out? I wouldn't, could kill them. Same applies to anyone.

He probably had like 10-14 drinks.

icehog3 06-22-2011 02:55 PM

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I hold no one accountable except Dunn himself.

Was the passenger 21, Bill, 'cause Dunn was 34.

pektel 06-22-2011 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1307051)
I hold no one accountable except Dunn himself.

Agreed. Everyone is entirely accountable for their actions.

kickerb 06-22-2011 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1307051)
I hold no one accountable except Dunn himself.

:tpd:

Don't blame a bartender who is just doing their job. You have to be an adult to drink (legally), which means you are of age to make responsible choices. Dunn was not being responsible. But hey, who is surprised by that? I mean given his recent career with Jackas.

GodOfFire 06-22-2011 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1307059)
Agreed. Everyone is entirely accountable for their actions.

Agree

El Fumador 06-22-2011 04:01 PM

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I agree also, bartender is making a living.... he could have a DD with him.

loki 06-22-2011 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1307038)
Sad to hear I always liked watching Jackass when it came out.

Seems they are saying he was driving at ~.20 BAC(.196 or some $hit) at 132-140 MPH. I just wonder if their tests account for the fact that he was probably drunker than that at the time of entering the car.

My question is why would the bar serve him 2.5+ times the legal limit.....Someone there needs to lose their job and is partially responsible for what happened. Sure you are ultimately responsible for yourself but would you serve someone that just turned 21 drinks until they black out? I wouldn't, could kill them. Same applies to anyone.

He probably had like 10-14 drinks.

i've had way more than 10-14 drinks in a night before...and you know what, I wasn't dumb enough to get behind the wheel of a smart car, let alone a gt3rs.

Whee 06-22-2011 04:23 PM

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Most recent update

http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/cele...Top+Stories%29

MedicCook 06-22-2011 05:19 PM

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I don't think I would be able to find my car let alone drive it at that level.

forgop 06-22-2011 05:21 PM

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"He didn't seem to be intoxicated at the time he left," O'Brien said. "Ryan was not a hardcore drinker, at least not when he was here."

The "he only had a couple of beers" line of BS from the bar. He's gonna get sued-write it down.

Bill86 06-22-2011 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kickerb (Post 1307075)
:tpd:

Don't blame a bartender who is just doing their job. You have to be an adult to drink (legally), which means you are of age to make responsible choices. Dunn was not being responsible. But hey, who is surprised by that? I mean given his recent career with Jackas.

So you are saying it's a bartenders job to serve someone as much alcohol as they want? To what, the point of death?

Then you would also being saying they (the bartender) hold no responsibility for patrons getting in a car and killing someone?

This is almost comical. However I will address facts rather than opinions. So far everyone has voiced their opinion, which is fine but here's how it really works.

You are responsible, as a holder of a state issued ABC card, for everyone you serve period. This isn't a morality issue or an argument it is fact, if you believe this is not the case then it's your right never to get the card and never legally work selling alcohol. Simple as that. They tell you when you get it.....everyone you serve is your responsibility from the moment they walk into the establishment you work at till the moment they arrive safely, or not, to where ever they are going. They warn you ahead of time your ass can be sued for overserving or serving underaged....I've seen it happen.

Now I have nothing invested in arguing on his behalf, as he is guilty and life choose to punish him for his actions. Fine. But if you think that bartender was in the right, you're out of your mind.


Quote:

Originally Posted by loki (Post 1307140)
i've had way more than 10-14 drinks in a night before...and you know what, I wasn't dumb enough to get behind the wheel of a smart car, let alone a gt3rs.

So have I. I've had more than 14 drinks before walking into a bar to start the night and like you I had a DD.

This is my last post in this thread, I'm not looking to argue or ruin this thread.

icehog3 06-22-2011 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1307266)
So you are saying it's a bartenders job to serve someone as much alcohol as they want? To what, the point of death?

Then you would also being saying they (the bartender) hold no responsibility for patrons getting in a car and killing someone?

This is almost comical. However I will address facts rather than opinions. So far everyone has voiced their opinion, which is fine but here's how it really works.

You are responsible, as a holder of a state issued ABC card, for everyone you serve period. This isn't a morality issue or an argument it is fact, if you believe this is not the case then it's your right never to get the card and never legally work selling alcohol. Simple as that. They tell you when you get it.....everyone you serve is your responsibility from the moment they walk into the establishment you work at till the moment they arrive safely, or not, to where ever they are going. They warn you ahead of time your ass can be sued for overserving or serving underaged....I've seen it happen.

Now I have nothing invested in arguing on his behalf, as he is guilty and life choose to punish him for his actions. Fine. But if you think that bartender was in the right, you're out of your mind.




So have I. I've had more than 14 drinks before walking into a bar to start the night and like you I had a DD.

This is my last post in this thread, I'm not looking to argue or ruin this thread.

Bill, you are a good guy and I don't want to argue either....but just because something is (civil) law doesn't make it "right".

If I walk into a bar and decide to have 18 drinks, then get in my car and drive away, the bartender is at fault? I am s cop, and I call bullshit on that law....and I always have. Obvious exception is if the drinker is underage, but besides that, the drinker should have grown the **** up. :2

Genetic Defect 06-22-2011 11:17 PM

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I think the distillery or brewery are at fault. What about buying from a liquor store and doing this, the liquor store is at fault. Not the individual who consumed it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1307038)
Sad to hear I always liked watching Jackass when it came out.

Seems they are saying he was driving at ~.20 BAC(.196 or some $hit) at 132-140 MPH. I just wonder if their tests account for the fact that he was probably drunker than that at the time of entering the car.

My question is why would the bar serve him 2.5+ times the legal limit.....Someone there needs to lose their job and is partially responsible for what happened. Sure you are ultimately responsible for yourself but would you serve someone that just turned 21 drinks until they black out? I wouldn't, could kill them. Same applies to anyone.

He probably had like 10-14 drinks.


pnoon 06-22-2011 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 1307733)
I think the distillery or brewery are at fault. What about buying from a liquor store and doing this, the liquor store is at fault. Not the individual who consumed it.

What about the farmer who grew the grain? Blame everyone. :rolleyes:

Genetic Defect 06-22-2011 11:36 PM

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;s I overlooked that one
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1307738)
What about the farmer who grew the grain? Blame everyone. :rolleyes:


AlohaStyle 06-22-2011 11:58 PM

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Yeah, this guy has partied for many years. I'm sure he could drink a lot and not really show he was totally wasted... no way I put any blame on the bartender(s). If someone is a belligerent drunk and still being served, then sure there can be some blame IMO.

kickerb 06-23-2011 08:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1307726)
If I walk into a bar and decide to have 18 drinks, then get in my car and drive away, the bartender is at fault?

I'm with you man, the only person to blame is the adult deciding to drink, period. Bill, I don't want to argue either, not sure why you said that. But to me like icehog said, just because its the law, it doesn't make it right.

If you go out drinking do you rest your life solely on the bartender to be responsible? I would hope not.

Starscream 06-23-2011 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1307726)
Bill, you are a good guy and I don't want to argue either....but just because something is (civil) law doesn't make it "right".

If I walk into a bar and decide to have 18 drinks, then get in my car and drive away, the bartender is at fault? I am s cop, and I call bullshit on that law....and I always have. Obvious exception is if the drinker is underage, but besides that, the drinker should have grown the **** up. :2

I agree that normally the bartender should not be at fault, but there are cases where they could be. Video evidence in Dunn's case looks to be that the bartender would not be at fault anyway, so it's probably a nonissue.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 1307733)
I think the distillery or brewery are at fault. What about buying from a liquor store and doing this, the liquor store is at fault. Not the individual who consumed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1307738)
What about the farmer who grew the grain? Blame everyone. :rolleyes:

Perry and Peter's examples here are much different than the bartender's. The liquor store nor the farmer sat there and watched a person get drunk. The bartender can monitor the patron's status when they come up and order each drink. If they are too drunk, cut them off.
Once again, I'm not saying it's right for the bartender to be sued
, but they do hold a little bit more of an obligation than the liquor store or the farmer. At least in the smaller, more personable bars. A bit harder for a bartender to be responsible at a club that has over 200 people in it.

neoflex 06-23-2011 09:59 AM

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The really sad thing if it were true is he was less than an 1/8th mile from home but still doesn't excuse the fact that he drove drunk. When I go out, if I have two or more drinks I hand the keys over to someone even though two beers have zero effect on me. At the end of the day it's not worth getting pulled over and possibly blowing a high enough BAC. If I'm on the bike, I will not ride even if I had more than one drink. Call me crazy but that's just being an adult about it. I didn't always think like this but a few years in the fire service running Heavy Rescue kind of puts things into perspective for you.
As far as holding the bartender liable. If he was acting normal and didn't seem to be too wasted than there is no reason to cut someone off. Everyone handles alcohol different and I have been out with guys that clearly couldn't handle their liquor and have been cut off by the bar but keep in mind that they were either acting like complete fools or just plain sloppy. The bartender tends to have a bar full of customers so they can't keep track of how many drinks each person has consumed especially since most times guys buy each other rounds. This is why they have a drinking age because at that age your supposed to be adult enough to make grown up choices. I kind of lump this into the same boat as the fat bast@rds who sue McDonalds because they got fat eating their product too much. On top of it you add the celebrity factor to it especially a guy from Jackass and they seem to think they're invincible and have the "It will never happen to me attitude" because most times they are let off with a slap to the wrist whereas the average Joe would be crucified for it. Perfect example is recently Kyle Bush was pulled for doing 130mph in a 45. Funny how he was at the track a couple days later suited up to go to work where I would have been sitting in the can still. We as a society tend to put celebrities on a pedestal and than act surprised when they get away with outlandish crap or kill themselves or someone else in the process.

loki 06-23-2011 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1308066)
I agree that normally the bartender should not be at fault, but there are cases where they could be. Video evidence in Dunn's case looks to be that the bartender would not be at fault anyway, so it's probably a nonissue.




Perry and Peter's examples here are much different than the bartender's. The liquor store nor the farmer sat there and watched a person get drunk. The bartender can monitor the patron's status when they come up and order each drink. If they are too drunk, cut them off.
Once again, I'm not saying it's right for the bartender to be sued
, but they do hold a little bit more of an obligation than the liquor store or the farmer. At least in the smaller, more personable bars. A bit harder for a bartender to be responsible at a club that has over 200 people in it.

have you been to crowded bar? there is no way that a bar tender, unless he had his own private bartender, "sat there and saw him get drunk". Also, there is almost no chance that dunn went up and got each of his own drinks. i guess the valet is responsible also for letting him drive, Porsche is responsible for not putting in breathalyzers or letting the GT3RS go above 40, and the psp is responsible for not pulling him over sooner. The guy got dumb and he got dead. Darwin handed him an award...this is a huge loss for the world. Man, no one could take a shot to the nuts like that guy

Kinky_yk 06-23-2011 10:09 AM

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It's not sad, at all. He was drinking and driving and killed himself, so what. Just because he's famous people say "oh what a waste, so sad". If your child happened to be crossing the street around the time he shreded his porsche would you still think it was a waste of a talented actor that unfortunaley the big bad bartender couldn't make his decisions for him. It is his responibility to not drive.

Lear31MX 06-23-2011 10:10 AM

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Also he was doing 132 mph, regraudless if he was drunk or not he was being even more of a (Jackass) driving his car that fast.

Learned somthing new to CKY- Camp Kill Yourself. Nice.

Starscream 06-23-2011 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loki (Post 1308104)
have you been to crowded bar? there is no way that a bar tender, unless he had his own private bartender, "sat there and saw him get drunk". Also, there is almost no chance that dunn went up and got each of his own drinks. i guess the valet is responsible also for letting him drive, Porsche is responsible for not putting in breathalyzers or letting the GT3RS go above 40, and the psp is responsible for not pulling him over sooner. The guy got dumb and he got dead. Darwin handed him an award...this is a huge loss for the world. Man, no one could take a shot to the nuts like that guy

You didn't read my last sentence.;)

And once again, I'm not applying this to Dunn's case. Video evidence shows he didn't look that bad when he left the bar.

pnoon 06-23-2011 10:14 AM

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Peter's point about the farmer was a joke.
:hn
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Starscream 06-23-2011 10:17 AM

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But it could become truth the way our culture is headed. Like tobacco farmers.


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