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TooCurious 11-20-2008 09:28 AM

What cigar ages the longest?
 
Out of all the many kinds of cigars, which one do you think ages the longest for the best taste?

MithShrike 11-20-2008 09:52 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Stonger oily cigars with a lot of oil.

MithShrike 11-20-2008 09:57 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
I just realized what I typed there... yes I'm redundant.

Darrell 11-20-2008 09:59 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Specifically Opus X and Fuente Anejos benefit greatly from age, some of the few NC's that do IMO.

TooCurious 11-20-2008 10:15 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Thanks for responding. Please keep opinions coming. It is giving us some ideas.

pnoon 11-20-2008 10:21 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TooCurious (Post 78189)
Thanks for responding. Please keep opinions coming. It is giving us some ideas.

Who is us? And what are your ideas?

DrDubzz 11-20-2008 10:27 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
we are legion, for we are many

TooCurious 11-20-2008 10:40 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Two people who love woodworking......hehehehe

Starscream 11-20-2008 10:40 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
We are the world.
We are the children.








We are kumarusc? Or at least a friend of his?

TooCurious 11-20-2008 10:43 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Thinking about a 10-15 year progressive humidor

Starscream 11-20-2008 10:47 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Back to the question at hand, are you refering to CCs or NC? Most any CCs benefit from aging, yet most NCs do not benefit from more than 6 months rest. Some are greatly benefited, such as Darrell's recommendation.

Sauer Grapes 11-20-2008 10:51 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
I'd say the ones that are oldest have probably aged the longest.

If you buy two cigars at the same time, the one you smoke last ages the longest.

It's really not rocket science. :D

TooCurious 11-20-2008 11:01 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Well that's really not what I was trying to get at rocket science and all. I am new so I am learning some things. I get that it's a difference between NC and CC. I understand that now. That's why we are still learning and thinking about options for storage. But I get what you're saying as well. As I live in Michigan that would make it apparently NC's for us. So, instead of a yearly humi it would be a monthly thing then. Still sits well with the scope of our planning.

mikeyj23 11-20-2008 11:06 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TooCurious (Post 78286)
Well that's really not what I was trying to get at rocket science and all. I am new so I am learning some things. I get that it's a difference between NC and CC. I understand that now. That's why we are still learning and thinking about options for storage. But I get what you're saying as well. As I live in Michigan that would make it apparently NC's for us. So, instead of a yearly humi it would be a monthly thing then. Still sits well with the scope of our planning.

Could you (or "y'all", rather) explain your (or "y'all's", rather) "yearly humi" and "monthly humi" and "progressive humi" ideas to us/me? We/I are/am quite perplexed.

TooCurious 11-20-2008 11:18 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Whether you are perplexed or not is not my fault. I am on this site as my husband and I enjoy herfing and woodworking and this site was recommended. As it stands now, with responses that put a person on the defensive, I can't say I would recommend this site to anyone.

Thank you to those who have responded trying to help.

Darrell 11-20-2008 11:19 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
I'm confused as hell with this thread now. :2

JKim 11-20-2008 11:21 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
What is a progressive humi?

mikeyj23 11-20-2008 11:22 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 78336)
I'm confused as hell with this thread now. :2

:tpd:

JKim 11-20-2008 11:25 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
There is popular discussion that says you can have two of the same cigar that will mature differently in a different environment.

put one cigar in a 70/70 environment with lots of open air exchange, it will mature quicker than putting an identical cigar in say a 65/65 environment enclosed in a coffin or tube.

K Baz 11-20-2008 11:34 AM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
:confused:

Sorry I am poor dirt farmer from Saskatchewan and I am always eager to learn too...but I can not figure out the monthly/progressive thing either.

I understand the temp/RH/storage type i.e. Cab vs. Dress vs. tubo vs single debated but if you would give me an idea on your humi I would happily post my ideas on aging NCs. Plus I would be happy to refer you to an ECCJ article that is in the most recent issue that talks on this direct.

taltos 11-20-2008 12:09 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TooCurious (Post 78331)
Whether you are perplexed or not is not my fault. I am on this site as my husband and I enjoy herfing and woodworking and this site was recommended. As it stands now, with responses that put a person on the defensive, I can't say I would recommend this site to anyone.

Thank you to those who have responded trying to help.

The point of the questions was not to put you on the defensive, it was to try to clarify your inquiry in order to give you better information. You will never find a friendlier group than are present on this board.

Starscream 11-20-2008 12:22 PM

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:tpd
Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 78413)
The point of the questions was not to put you on the defensive, it was to try to clarify your inquiry in order to give you better information. You will never find a friendlier group than are present on this board.

:tpd:
No offense has been intended by anyone I'm sure. We are all harmless and gentle inmates in this asylum. Well, most of us anyways. But those who aren't take medication for it.:D

Sauer Grapes 11-20-2008 12:52 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
I won't apologize for my comedy nor the way I look.

Anyway, my comment wasn't to give you attitude but more to directly answer you question as it was worded. Welcome to CA though. You will find us rather friendly when you get to know us but you need a rather thick skin at times. We are good people.

What were you asking in your original question? The way it is worded leaves a lot open to interpretation of your actual intent. Did you want to know about whether or not a cigar will take longer to age in certain conditions? What do you mean by "age"? Etc.

piperman 11-20-2008 01:10 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
:bh

rizzle 11-20-2008 02:54 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Why did I avoid clicking on this thread earlier? Gold, Jerry...pure gold!

Vitis 11-20-2008 03:04 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MithShrike (Post 78153)
Stonger oily cigars with a lot of oil.

Ok, anyone have thoughts on which marcas/vitolas are oily? I see people posting about this but I never find that characteristic in any of the cigars that I smoke.

~Vitis

Starscream 11-20-2008 03:31 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 78764)
Ok, anyone have thoughts on which marcas/vitolas are oily? I see people posting about this but I never find that characteristic in any of the cigars that I smoke.

~Vitis

Toothy cigars are what I consider oily. The wrapper has that shine to it.

pnoon 11-20-2008 03:37 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 78821)
Toothy cigars are what I consider oily. The wrapper has that shine to it.

Toothy refers to a rough looking wrapper. I would not equate toothy with oily/shiny.

DPD6030 11-20-2008 03:59 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
So "toothy" would = a veiny wrapper?

BlackDog 11-20-2008 04:07 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
I think that the OP was referring to a humi with multiple trays/drawers which would allow them to put "Year 1" cigars on one tray, "Year 2" cigars on the next, and progressively through several years so they can always be smoking the oldest cigars. At least that's to what I think she was referring.

Genetic Defect 11-20-2008 04:10 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
the one that ages the longest is the one not smoked.

Starscream 11-20-2008 04:15 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 78832)
Toothy refers to a rough looking wrapper. I would not equate toothy with oily/shiny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030 (Post 78877)
So "toothy" would = a veiny wrapper?

Cigars w/ little bumps all on them are what I consider "Toothy" (correct me if I'm wrong). Most cigars that I have smoked w/ little bumps on them have a sheen to the wrapper. I know this is a nasty cigar, but VS Connecticut Yankee comes to mind. It's "bumpy" and "shiny".

MajorCaptSilly 11-20-2008 04:16 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030 (Post 78877)
So "toothy" would = a veiny wrapper?

Cameroon is toothy.

MCS

Genetic Defect 11-20-2008 04:18 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 78902)
Cameroon is toothy.

MCS

this is toothy
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4146/toothy03mw7.gif

Starscream 11-20-2008 04:21 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 78905)

Perfect definition. Pink squirrel (or is that a pink beaver) cigars are toothy. :tu

Bruce 11-20-2008 05:49 PM

Re: What cigar ages the longest?
 
"Tooth".......
those tiny little bumps characteristic to certain types of cigar wrappers. Camaroon (sp?) normally has a lot of tooth.
"Toothy" does not mean a "rough" wrapper.

As far as some examples of NC cigars that age well, the Dominican Davidoff line ages well, as does Opus X, Don Carlos, Padron Anniversarios, and a few others.
Hope this helps.


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