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dropshadow 03-02-2011 10:23 AM

ISO: Made in the USA cutters
 
I am looking for cutters (single/double guillotine, and especially scissor style) that are manufactured in the USA. I know most of this manufacturing has gone to Asia, but I am looking for something still made in the good ole USA. Any one have any suggestions? I can be contacted via PM and at my email from this site as well. Thanks.

icehog3 03-02-2011 10:36 AM

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http://paliocutter.com/

dropshadow 03-02-2011 10:41 AM

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thank you for your reply.

yes, i am aware of palios and i am already talking to them. i guess i should have been more specific -- i really want to source scissor style cutters that are manufactured in the US. something with a cuban crafter look but unfortunately i talked to them, and those are made in china -- yuck!

cuban crafter scissor cutter: http://www.cubancrafters.com/products.php/item_id/2888

icehog3 03-02-2011 10:43 AM

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Understood....can't help you with that one, I pretty much exclusively use Palio products. Good luck with your quest.

NCRadioMan 03-02-2011 10:47 AM

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Good luck with your search!

I also am a Palio user and, in my opinion, you will find no finer cutter on the market.

md4958 03-02-2011 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1190408)
Understood....can't help you with that one, I pretty much exclusively use Palio products. Good luck with your quest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1190413)
Good luck with your search!

I also am a Palio user and, in my opinion, you will find no finer cutter on the market.

i third those notions

LostAbbott 03-02-2011 11:11 AM

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Fourth, I also enjoy using a good sharp knife.

dropshadow 03-02-2011 11:13 AM

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LOL! i absolutely concur with everyone that palio makes very nice cutters. need USA made scissor-style cutters!

awsmith4 03-02-2011 11:19 AM

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Cigars are not 'Made in the USA' therefore many of the accessories will not be either.

If you are looking to rebrand scissors for retail you may want to contact someone like Xikar and see if they will manufacture them for you. You could also find a knife manufacturer and see if they could make them to your specs. But in reality if you are looking for some cheap accessories to mark up and sell, China is your Huckleberry.

dropshadow 03-02-2011 11:23 AM

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i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....

T.G 03-02-2011 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 1190452)
Cigars are not 'Made in the USA' therefore many of the accessories will not be either.

:sw

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

croatan 03-02-2011 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190455)
i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....

Is that statement meant as a criticism of the company or its product? :confused:

I'm a Palio fan, too, but not because it's made int he USA--it's because 1) it's the best cutter I've used; and 2) it's owned by a friend.

I'll be honest and say that I don't really care too much where items are manufactured. My car is British owned by an Indian. My shoes are Italian. My cigars are Cuban. My electronics are from Asian. My watch is Swiss. My whiskeys are Irish and Scottish. My beers and wines are from all over. There are some great products made in the USA and there are great products made elsewhere. I'm much more concerned with getting a quality product (naturally at a reasonable price) than I am with where it's made :2

Mugen910 03-02-2011 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croatan (Post 1190571)
Is that statement meant as a criticism of the company or its product? :confused:

I'm a Palio fan, too, but not because it's made int he USA--it's because 1) it's the best cutter I've used; and 2) it's owned by a friend.

I'll be honest and say that I don't really care too much where items are manufactured. My car is British owned by an Indian. My shoes are Italian. My cigars are Cuban. My electronics are from Asian. My watch is Swiss. My whiskeys are Irish and Scottish. My beers and wines are from all over. There are some great products made in the USA and there are great products made elsewhere. I'm much more concerned with getting a quality product (naturally at a reasonable price) than I am with where it's made :2

Oh I like this game...
Car = Swedish
Shoes = IDk but the soles are made in Italy
Electronics = Asia
Shirt on my back = Viet Nam :banger
Coffee = down the street :D
Travel mug = China
Undies = Not going to the bathroom to check...
I think the memory in my cell is from Korea.. :D

markem 03-02-2011 01:33 PM

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I see where the OP is coming from. He would very much like to find a quality scissor-style cigar cutter that is US made. For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice. I do not think that he was impinging the quality of other cutters, US made or not. That's my opinion of the original post and the thread.

I know of no such animal and even checked some of the top US made knife sites.

mariogolbee 03-02-2011 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1190578)
I see where the OP is coming from. He would very much like to find a quality scissor-style cigar cutter that is US made. For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice. I do not think that he was impinging the quality of other cutters, US made or not. That's my opinion of the original post and the thread.

:tpd:That's what I construe. I think everything else is just off topic.

croatan 03-02-2011 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1190578)
For many, cutter quality is number 1. For this person at this time, quality and US made are equally important. His choice.

True that.

I just took the xikar fan / Asia thing as a dig at items manufactured abroad (or at least in Asia), which I don't think is necessarily true and will unnecessarily limit the number of cigar accessories from which one (including someone else who might be reading this thread without the experience of using these various cutters) has to choose--and that's just sad, because we all need as many cigar toys as humanly possible ;)

Quote:

I know of no such animal and even checked some of the top US made knife sites.
Me either. I currently carry a Benchmade (made in the USA) knife every day and have always been interested to see them or some of the other various knife manucturers (including the truly high-end USA and foreign ones) put out some cutters.

captain53 03-02-2011 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190455)
i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....

Maybe that explains why my "thought it was made in the U.S.A." Xicar cutter pinches the crap out of me sometimes and I don't really like it.

Hope you will report back in on what if anything you find made in the U.S.

dropshadow 03-02-2011 03:11 PM

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my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing :(

awsmith4 03-02-2011 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1190482)
:sw

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

That came out wrong. My point is, if my cigars come from third world countries then I don't mind if my accessories do either. As long as its a quality product that is all that matters.


To the OP, I did a bit of searching and could not find scissors that were described as being made domestically. As I stated, as well as a few others, I would contact a knife manufacturer and see if they could create them to your specs.

croatan 03-02-2011 03:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190709)
my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing :(

Is that when they changed the design of the xikar multi-tool cutter, as well? I know some guys who swear by the old ones but hate the new ones.

Anyway, good luck with your search. Hope you find what you're looking for.

--
And now, even more off-topic than I've been already:

There are quite a few guys around the DFW area who get together fairly regularly to smoke cigars / have a few cocktails / shoot the sh!t. The annual Don't Mess With Texas Herf in October is especially fun. :D

loki 03-02-2011 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190455)
i'm not looking for cheap...i am looking for quality made in the USA products...

and just for all you xikar fans out there...all of their stuff is manufactured in asia...not the US....

don't care where it's made personally. my cigars are not from the us and I don't really care where my cutters come from. If you insist on us made scissors it seems you're out of luck.

Bill86 03-02-2011 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by croatan (Post 1190593)
Me either. I currently carry a Benchmade (made in the USA) knife every day and have always been interested to see them or some of the other various knife manucturers (including the truly high-end USA and foreign ones) put out some cutters.

You might try to get a custom knifemaker that would produce a cigar cutter. I would be willing to bet if you put in a message to Mike Snody he might undertake such project. He's always making very crazy things that look very cool. (slingshots that crack skulls, money clips, knives of all kinds) Of course I would probably try to come at him with a list of like 25-50 buyers.

Or maybe another knifemaker would do something like this. Especially if they were to engrave CA into it I wonder how many people here would purchase one?

dropshadow 03-02-2011 04:30 PM

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appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...

Volusianator 03-02-2011 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190775)
appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...

Ahhhhhhhhhh, new light.

Pat1075 03-02-2011 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190709)
my comment regarding xikars...is because many people have referred me to xikar citing that they are made in the USA. at one point in time, yes, xikars were manufactured in the US, but like many cigar accessroy maufacturers, they have started producing them in asia. many people still think xikar is US-made including some very high end shoppes in DFW where i am. i am surprised at how many people still believe that xikars are US-made. it's not a swipe at xikar, i think they make some very nice cutters. it's not a swipe at asian-made cutters. i've seen some very nice prometheus cutters that use japanese surgical steel - made in s.korea. and i've seen davidoff cutters with the same german steel that is still used in top-of-the-line henkel knives. i will admit that i tend to think less of xikars because they are using cheap china steel. but i was merely trying to head off any referrals to xikar because i've already done my homework there. for my purposes, i am trying to source a good US made cutter, especially the scissor type. i've been at it for 3 weeks and...nothing :(

you should read the autumn 2010 issue of ECCJ where they interview the production managers of the Wolfertz factory in Solingen germany where even the standard plastic handled xikars are still made. so before you go saying whats what please check your facts. I believe it is the next line up that is chinese assembled and has chinese handles but still german blades which by trade law makes it made in china. Mine has german blades and dead mammoth for a handle (made in kentucky) don't know where it was assembled. global market at work

rebelknight 03-02-2011 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 1190576)
Oh I like this game...
Car = Swedish
Shoes = IDk but the soles are made in Italy
Electronics = Asia
Shirt on my back = Viet Nam :banger
Coffee = down the street :D
Travel mug = China
Undies = Not going to the bathroom to check...
I think the memory in my cell is from Korea.. :D

As long as we are sharing...

Car = Japanese
Shoes = China
Electronics = Japan
Shirt on my back = usually something like Bangledash but currently no shirt
Coffee = don't drink it
Travel Mug = don't own one
Undies = China
Memory in cell = Korea

Bill86 03-02-2011 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190775)
appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...

It was mostly to Croatan as I figured you weren't looking for a high(er) priced custom.

Pat1075 03-02-2011 10:38 PM

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to the op check out this link
http://www.discountcutlery.net/en-us/dept_24528.html
all these people make scissors in the us if they can make scissors they can probably make many scissor cutters

dropshadow 03-03-2011 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat1075 (Post 1191135)
you should read the autumn 2010 issue of ECCJ where they interview the production managers of the Wolfertz factory in Solingen germany where even the standard plastic handled xikars are still made. so before you go saying whats what please check your facts. I believe it is the next line up that is chinese assembled and has chinese handles but still german blades which by trade law makes it made in china. Mine has german blades and dead mammoth for a handle (made in kentucky) don't know where it was assembled. global market at work

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:32:24 -0600
From: Allison Key <xxxxxxxxxxx@xikar.com>
Subject: Re: Request for Information

"Our cutters are not made in the US, but are made in Taiwan."
--
Allison Key
XIKAR Inc.
866-676-7380

md4958 03-03-2011 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat1075 (Post 1191135)
so before you go saying whats what please check your facts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1191670)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:32:24 -0600
From: Allison Key <xxxxxxxxxxx@xikar.com>
Subject: Re: Request for Information

"Our cutters are not made in the US, but are made in Taiwan."
--
Allison Key
XIKAR Inc.
866-676-7380

Looks like he did! :=:

Good luck with your search. If you do manage to find something, post it up. Many guys are always looking for high quality US made goods.

Or, you could try contacting Marc (OpusX) from Palio, and see if they could produce something in quantity for you... I guess it would depend on the quantity, but its worth a shot.

landhoney 03-03-2011 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190775)
appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...

Who are you looking to sell the cutters to, just out of curiosity?

Pat1075 03-04-2011 10:31 AM

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my apologies but do check out the discount cutlery link there are plenty of good American scissors there which could give you a jumping off point.

md4958 03-04-2011 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat1075 (Post 1193157)
my apologies but do check out the discount cutlery link there are plenty of good American scissors there which could give you a jumping off point.

Patrick, do they produce the cutlery, or are they just a vendor?

Pat1075 03-04-2011 09:54 PM

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just a vendor however as it does contain a list of several american producers you could use it as a jumping off point. And since the names are there you can figure out the companies and there contact information with a little work.
ok I'll do it for him
Bear & Son http://www.bearandsoncutlery.com/
Buck http://www.buckknives.com/
Slip-N-Snip http://www.slipnsnip.com/
there three american scissor producers and there websites all compiled from a lead from a cutlery vendors website

Bruzee 03-05-2011 02:05 AM

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I don't know, maybe I am a bit out of line here. But, you just come in here, looking for a quick answer to help you drum up business, and you start barking as us. Take a minute to introduce yourself and tell us something about yourself before demanding answers. This is a community full of resources, but have a little tact when asking for help. You might find that you like it here, and you might even find some customers here and end up staying. Just my :2. Best of luck with your research.

dropshadow 03-07-2011 03:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 1194026)
I don't know, maybe I am a bit out of line here. But, you just come in here, looking for a quick answer to help you drum up business, and you start barking as us. Take a minute to introduce yourself and tell us something about yourself before demanding answers. This is a community full of resources, but have a little tact when asking for help. You might find that you like it here, and you might even find some customers here and end up staying. Just my :2. Best of luck with your research.

please cite one line where i was either unprofessional, uncourteous, demanding, or "barking". the only person lacking tact in this thread is you.

AD720 03-07-2011 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1190775)
appreciate the comment. not looking for one-off custom-made. looking to source quantity to resell. i am in the import/export business...

Vandelay Industries?








;s :)

Bruzee 03-07-2011 08:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropshadow (Post 1197227)
please cite one line where i was either unprofessional, uncourteous, demanding, or "barking". the only person lacking tact in this thread is you.

I am not going to do that. If you can't see it on your own, then me pointing it out won't help any either. It is clear to me that you just don't get it.

pnoon 03-07-2011 08:39 PM

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Let's either stay on topic or take it to PMs.
:2

Bruzee 03-07-2011 10:34 PM

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;s Peter....

Miket156 03-09-2011 01:43 PM

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Finding manufactured products made in america are more rare than hen's teeth. So many US industries that use to make their products here in the states are gone. Many industries are pretty much gone forever. The company I work for makes outerwear. We tried to find a factory in America that could make hunting garments for us to our specifications and there were none. There were a few small "job shops" that had a few sewing machines, but they're way to small to take on an order for 6,000 hunting parkas.

Reality sucks. :(


Mike T.

Bad Finger 03-09-2011 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miket156 (Post 1199964)
Finding manufactured products made in america are more rare than hen's teeth. So many US industries that use to make their products here in the states are gone. Many industries are pretty much gone forever. The company I work for makes outerwear. We tried to find a factory in America that could make hunting garments for us to our specifications and there were none. There were a few small "job shops" that had a few sewing machines, but they're way to small to take on an order for 6,000 hunting parkas.

Reality sucks. :(


Mike T.

There are no cotton textile factories, or any hemp processing plants left in America.


We import 100% of it now. How pathetic......

Miket156 03-09-2011 02:06 PM

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Quote:

by Bad Finger:

We import 100% of it now. How pathetic.
I hope we don't live to regret it. So many things we need are now made off-shore that if a major war breaks out and the countries that are making things for us decide not go make them anymore, we are in a heep of trouble! :eek:


Mike T.

icehog3 03-09-2011 02:39 PM

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If this thread goes any more political, it will go the way of the hemp processing plants. ;)

Miket156 03-09-2011 04:43 PM

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Icehog:

I don't know that the subject is political. The siphoning of American companies to off-shore has been going on since the end of WWII. Both major political party voted to allow it to happen, so the subject is apolitical. Both parties are stupid.

Anyway, the subject of American made came up in this thread. I'd rather talk about cigars. -(P


Cheers,


Mike T.

Emjaysmash 03-09-2011 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1200033)
If this thread goes any more political, it will go the way of the hemp processing plants. ;)

Amdsterdam?

Bill86 03-09-2011 04:47 PM

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Basically if you ever mention the words "parties" "stupid" "political" you can bet that will get a thread locked. Anything remotely political we keep off these forums. If you have the hunch it could go in that direction even, just don't post it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1200161)
Amdsterdam?

Hampsterdam?

md4958 03-09-2011 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1200033)
hemp processing plants. ;)

what are those?

pnoon 03-09-2011 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miket156 (Post 1200155)
Icehog:

I don't know that the subject is political. The siphoning of American companies to off-shore has been going on since the end of WWII. Both major political party voted to allow it to happen, so the subject is apolitical. Both parties are stupid.

Anyway, the subject of American made came up in this thread. I'd rather talk about cigars. -(P


Cheers,


Mike T.

While the discussion may not be political at the moment, it is becoming perilously close. All he did was post a reminder that if it were to drift that way, the thread would be closed. The collective experience of the admins here have a pretty good feel for threads that teeter on the edge. This happens to be one of them.

Miket156 03-09-2011 06:22 PM

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OK, got cha....:salute:


Cheers,



Mike T.


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