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michaelmastro 02-23-2011 04:37 PM

Tubos - To remove or not remove...
 
What are the pros and cons of removing tubed cigars for aging? Do they age better out of the tube, or in the tube?

Thanks you all, in advance, and Happy Smoking!

markem 02-23-2011 04:47 PM

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wow, like this is one question that has never, ever been discussed here. If it had been, one would be justified in just pointing out that all the new user docs mention using the search function for common questions, but since it has never, ever been asked here before ...

well, there ya go.

Bageland2000 02-23-2011 05:05 PM

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yikes,:tpd:

you may want to try introducing yourself and read the rulzes, before you start asking questions like that :2

DennisP 02-23-2011 05:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1182848)
wow, like this is one question that has never, ever been discussed here. If it had been, one would be justified in just pointing out that all the new user docs mention using the search function for common questions, but since it has never, ever been asked here before ...

well, there ya go.

Hey Mark, any thoughts on cello?

pnoon 02-23-2011 05:12 PM

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Hey guys. How about some gentle guidance?

Michael - welcome to Cigar Asylum. Some questions are fairly basic and have been asked over and over again. There are a lot of good people here and tons of information. Head on over to the New Inmate forum and introduce yourself.

longknocker 02-23-2011 05:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1182870)
Hey guys. How about some gentle guidance?

Michael - welcome to Cigar Asylum. Some questions are fairly basic and have been asked over and over again. There are a lot of good people here and tons of information. Head on over to the New Inmate forum and introduce yourself.

Thank You, Peter!:tu

druturn 02-23-2011 06:26 PM

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This is debated among the brothers around here. Personally, I never really buy tubos, so this is not really an issue for me. When I do buy them, I remove the tubos simply for space issues and so that they do not tear the wrappers of my other cigars.

hotreds 02-23-2011 06:28 PM

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Happy smoking to you as well!

thecatch83 02-23-2011 07:01 PM

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I just ordered some Bolivar Crystal Tubo's Robusto's and I plan on keeping them sealed up in my coolidor for quite sometime. I see no reason (space permitting) why you can't leave them sealed up in a humidity controlled setting. GL and welcome to the Asylum!

JPH 02-23-2011 07:09 PM

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You can search to find others opinions but I will offer my opinion on the matter and it is I do not, have never and will never remove cigars from the tubes. Age the cigars how they were packaged is my rule. Don't forget to remove the tube before smoking though otherwise it leaves a metalic taste that is undesirable by many... Also when you attempt to advance the ageing of the cigars in the microwave you need to remove the tube too... That's right folks people have tried this... Lol

icehog3 02-23-2011 07:12 PM

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I leave the cigars in the tubes. If I find that some tubed cigars with age on them are smoking a little flat, I will remove the cap from the tube and age them that way.

Don't let the inmates run you off, we were all new once. :)

Emjaysmash 02-23-2011 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1182998)
I leave the cigars in the tubes. If I find that some tubed cigars with age on them are smoking a little flat, I will remove the cap from the tube and age them that way.

Don't let the inmates run you off, we were all new once. :)

:tpd:

alexa071 02-23-2011 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1182848)
wow, like this is one question that has never, ever been discussed here. If it had been, one would be justified in just pointing out that all the new user docs mention using the search function for common questions, but since it has never, ever been asked here before ...

well, there ya go.

Wow... I haven't been here that long myself and don't post often but ;s

When I got into cigars last year I landed here because of the obnoxious behavior on the OTHER sites... I guess things have changed over the last year...

Is is so horrible to just guide the man to the new member forum and answer such a simple question?

Randy

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 07:38 AM

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First of all, pardon the hell out of me for asking what I thought to be a legitimate question. Second of all, thanks to those who provided usable information.

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 07:40 AM

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Oh, and to introduce myself - I'm Michael Mastro, award winning Photographer and Graphic Designer. Former roadie for rock and r+b acts. Have lived in Los Angeles, Seattle, Santa Cruz California, Hawaii, Texas, Georgia, and now, Mobile Alabama. What am I leaving out? Married, two sons, one grandson.

And I've been smoking cigars for a long time.

pnoon 02-24-2011 07:42 AM

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Chill out folks.
If you read the thread, two admins have posted an attempt to smooth things over. No need to stir things up.
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Christiel49 02-24-2011 07:44 AM

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:tu

I found the Newbie intro to be very informative. Welcome :D

Christiel49 02-24-2011 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183347)
Oh, and to introduce myself - I'm Michael Mastro, award winning Photographer and Graphic Designer. Former roadie for rock and r+b acts. Have lived in Los Angeles, Seattle, Santa Cruz California, Hawaii, Texas, Georgia, and now, Mobile Alabama. What am I leaving out? Married, two sons, one grandson.

And I've been smoking cigars for a long time.

Welcome to CA....... I actually have not purchased any in tubes, so thanks for the info!

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 07:57 AM

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I did a search and my question is what turned up. I still wonder if the cigars in the tube will age the same as they would if I remove them. The cigars in question are R+J Havana Churchills.

Emjaysmash 02-24-2011 08:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183379)
I did a search and my question is what turned up. I still wonder if the cigars in the tube will age the same as they would if I remove them. The cigars in question are R+J Havana Churchills.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...=storing+tubos

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...=storing+tubos

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...=storing+tubos

wayner123 02-24-2011 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183347)
Oh, and to introduce myself - I'm Michael Mastro, award winning Photographer and Graphic Designer. Former roadie for rock and r+b acts. Have lived in Los Angeles, Seattle, Santa Cruz California, Hawaii, Texas, Georgia, and now, Mobile Alabama. What am I leaving out? Married, two sons, one grandson.

And I've been smoking cigars for a long time.

Welcome.




Are you also running from the Jewish Mafia? :r

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 08:57 AM

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Are you also running from the Jewish Mafia?

Ha!

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 08:59 AM

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Thank you, Mooch. Your references have lead me to the conclusion that it's all a matter of preference. I think I'm going to remove the caps and leave them in the tubes.

Thanks to all, and Happy Smoking!

Emjaysmash 02-24-2011 09:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183445)
Thank you, Mooch. Your references have lead me to the conclusion that it's all a matter of preference. I think I'm going to remove the caps and leave them in the tubes.

Thanks to all, and Happy Smoking!

Lol I'd rather go by M.J. or if need be "Hammer".

Glad I could help.

floydpink 02-24-2011 09:15 AM

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Welcome Michael, and please stay around a while.

This is a really great place once you get done pledging!:D

Personally, I like to leave the cap on and store tubos. Not sure why, it just hapens that way.

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:21 AM

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MJ - Thank you and will do.

Floyd - You might enjoy this - I saw Pink Floyd with Syd.

As for those R+J tubos - Since I will only smoke one a year, I think I'm going to leave them in the box with the top off the tubes.

NCRadioMan 02-24-2011 09:23 AM

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Cigars age in tubes better than if they were sitting out of them. I'm talking 10/15+ years. The tube creates it's own micro environment with, hopefully, not much air exchange and the cigar will stew in it's own brew, if you will. The slow aging with as less air exchange as possible is usually desired.

Leave those tubes closed because in the years to come, they should become spectacular. Like igehog said, before you smoke one, you might want to get it out of the tube for a week or so to let it breath.

A good example are the 98 H Upmann Monarca's. The ones in the tubes are so much better right now!

:2

Welcome!

floydpink 02-24-2011 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183482)
MJ - Thank you and will do.

Floyd - You might enjoy this - I saw Pink Floyd with Syd.

As for those R+J tubos - Since I will only smoke one a year, I think I'm going to leave them in the box with the top off the tubes.


I had a feeling you were old from your intro! (just kidding, I promise!!)

I saw them on the Animals tour, but Syd was institutionalized by then. (he woulda probably fit in great here)

I'd love to hear about some of the acts you roadied for.

Back to the subject, I find that the Cohiba Siglo II's I have in the tubo are normally smoking much better than the ones from the box.

icehog3 02-24-2011 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1183484)
Like igehog said, before you smoke one, you might want to get it out of the tube for a week or so to let it breath.

Stupid sexy igehog. :mad:

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1183484)
Cigars age in tubes better than if they were sitting out of them. I'm talking 10/15+ years. The tube creates it's own micro environment with, hopefully, not much air exchange and the cigar will stew in it's own brew, if you will. The slow aging with as less air exchange as possible is usually desired.

Leave those tubes closed because in the years to come, they should become spectacular. Like igehog said, before you smoke one, you might want to get it out of the tube for a week or so to let it breath.

A good example are the 98 H Upmann Monarca's. The ones in the tubes are so much better right now!

:2

Welcome!

That makes sense. I always thought that the tube, with a bit of cedar inside, would be a good aging environment.

NCRadioMan 02-24-2011 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1183500)
Stupid sexy igehog. :mad:

I know, it's hard to stay away from the mighty igehog. :sh

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1183489)
I had a feeling you were old from your intro! (just kidding, I promise!!)

I saw them on the Animals tour, but Syd was institutionalized by then. (he woulda probably fit in great here)

I'd love to hear about some of the acts you roadied for.

Back to the subject, I find that the Cohiba Siglo II's I have in the tubo are normally smoking much better than the ones from the box.

The time that I saw them was 1967 at the Shrine Exposition Hall in Los Angeles - Blue Cheer, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, The Jeff Beck Group and Pink Floyd. For about $2.25.

I roadied for Atlanta Rhythm Section, The Georgia Satellites, The SOS Band, and The Dazz Band.

And, yes I am old. I turned 60 last November...

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:41 AM

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BTW - I just started "dry boxing" and it seems to make a difference. More even burn and no bitterness.

Mr B 02-24-2011 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183445)
Thank you, Mooch. Your references have lead me to the conclusion that it's all a matter of preference. I think I'm going to remove the caps and leave them in the tubes.Thanks to all, and Happy Smoking!



That what I do too.

Welcome

NCRadioMan 02-24-2011 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183515)
BTW - I just started "dry boxing" and it seems to make a difference. More even burn and no bitterness.

Now, all you have to do is keep your humidors 60-64% and you can cut out the dry boxing step altogether.

Bruzee 02-24-2011 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183347)
Oh, and to introduce myself - I'm Michael Mastro, award winning Photographer and Graphic Designer. Former roadie for rock and r+b acts. Have lived in Los Angeles, Seattle, Santa Cruz California, Hawaii, Texas, Georgia, and now, Mobile Alabama. What am I leaving out? Married, two sons, one grandson.

And I've been smoking cigars for a long time.

Sweet! Do you photograph cigars? I love me some cigar art!! :tu


Oh, and welcome!

HollywoodQue 02-24-2011 09:48 AM

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I have a H.Upmann cc and a few RYJ still in the tubes...let us know what you kind

rizzle 02-24-2011 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1182870)
Hey guys. How about some gentle guidance?
Michael - welcome to Cigar Asylum. Some questions are fairly basic and have been asked over and over again. There are a lot of good people here and tons of information. Head on over to the New Inmate forum and introduce yourself.

For realz, man. Everybody was a newb at one time or another. Hell, I'm still a newb to this stuff and I joined when the forum started. And sometimes I hesitate to ask a question because, God forbid, it's been asked before and I didn't use the search function and somebody "who knows stuff" feels like taking a quick jab. Whatever.

NCRadioMan 02-24-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1183530)
For realz, man. Everybody was a newb at one time or another. Hell, I'm still a newb to this stuff and I joined when the forum started. And sometimes I hesitate to ask a question because, God forbid, it's been asked before and I didn't use the search function and somebody "who knows stuff" feels like taking a quick jab. Whatever.

Note to self: Next time riz asks a question, tell him to use the search button. ;) :D

icehog3 02-24-2011 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1183524)
Now, all you have to do is keep your humidors 60-64% and you can cut out the dry boxing step altogether.

'zactly! :tu

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 1183528)
Sweet! Do you photograph cigars? I love me some cigar art!! :tu


Oh, and welcome!

One of these days I'll have to shoot the cigars I keep for special occasions...

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1183524)
Now, all you have to do is keep your humidors 60-64% and you can cut out the dry boxing step altogether.

I like the idea of aging at 70-72% and then dry boxing for a few days.

icehog3 02-24-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183550)
I like the idea of aging at 70-72% and then dry boxing for a few days.

May I ask why, Michael?

rizzle 02-24-2011 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1183532)
Note to self: Next time riz asks a question, tell him to use the search button. ;) :D

Thanks, bro...you know I love you, man. :noon

shilala 02-24-2011 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183445)
Thank you, Mooch. Your references have lead me to the conclusion that it's all a matter of preference. I think I'm going to remove the caps and leave them in the tubes.

Thanks to all, and Happy Smoking!

I purposely avoid tubos because they mold up on me. If I get Anejos and they're in cedar, I take it off for the same reason.
It's odd because I keep all my stuff down around 60%, as a rule. So by all means, stuff should not mold up. The fur doesn't harm anything, but I just don't dig it.
I think you made the right decision, and welcome to the asylum!!! :tu

P.S.
Don't mind Mark, he was in a mood, and for good reason. He had a really rough day, and he's not generally a dick. I think Peter gave him a time-out. :D

NCRadioMan 02-24-2011 10:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1183553)
May I ask why, Michael?

I am interested as well. Nothing wrong with it, as long as you enjoy your cigars but I am curious.

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1183553)
May I ask why, Michael?

My thought is this - Cigars are made in countries where the average humidity is around 70% and they don't use humidors. So I figure that should be the best humidity for aging. Any thoughts?

michaelmastro 02-24-2011 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1183557)
Thanks, bro...you know I love you, man. :noon

I only have two words for you: ROLL TIDE!!!

rizzle 02-24-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelmastro (Post 1183570)
I only have two words for you: ROLL TIDE!!!

Me thinks you'll fit in around here just fine. :D

Roll Tide, brother. :tu

pnoon 02-24-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1183559)
I purposely avoid tubos because they mold up on me. If I get Anejos and they're in cedar, I take it off for the same reason.
It's odd because I keep all my stuff down around 60%, as a rule. So by all means, stuff should not mold up. The fur doesn't harm anything, but I just don't dig it.
I think you made the right decision, and welcome to the asylum!!! :tu

P.S.
Don't mind Mark, he was in a mood, and for good reason. He had a really rough day, and he's not generally a dick. I think Peter gave him a time-out. :D

You couldn't be more wrong. :)
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