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BTcigars 02-08-2011 11:33 AM
PG Cigars
 
I was wondering what people's thoughts and opinions are on Paul Garmirian cigars are. Especially concerning the quality of construction.

kelmac07 02-08-2011 12:03 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
I've had a few of the maduros and they are top notch sticks...great construction, great flavor...just a little too high priced for me.

NCRadioMan 02-08-2011 12:03 PM
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PG's construction is impeccable, for the most part. Sure you may find some that have a problem but that happens with all cigars. They are really good cigars that are either overlooked or not available.

Paul Garmirian doesn't advertise at all. He thinks that a good cigar shouldn't need advertising and he may be on to something because his cigars have been around awhile in a very competitive market.

I really like the Reserva Exclusiva line, especially the lancero.

rizzle 02-08-2011 12:30 PM
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Never even heard of them.

DonniePaul 02-08-2011 12:35 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
My wife brought one of these home for me a while back and I have had my eye on it lately. Glad to hear a bit about it.

Emjaysmash 02-08-2011 12:38 PM
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I had a couple puffs off a Bombone. It was fantastic.

mosesbotbol 02-08-2011 12:41 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1165563)
Paul Garmirian doesn't advertise at all. He thinks that a good cigar shouldn't need advertising and he may be on to something because his cigars have been around awhile in a very competitive market.
He's been around like 20 years and is big name I would put up with Fuente, Davidoff, Dunhill, or Zino. Older brand that probably caters to the same group for many years. A worth cigar to try. He does not need to advertise for the niche he is in.

Adriftpanda 02-08-2011 01:51 PM
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Yeah, he's been around for a while. My buddy use to carry his line back in the 90s but they just became too expensive and no one bought them.

Not sure which PG I smoked but, it was the lancero, and it was great.

BT, if you are looking for some, I know that Tobacco Republic carries them, or use to carry them. I'm sure you already knew that though.

Bill86 02-08-2011 01:53 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1165593)
Never even heard of them.
:tpd:

I dunno, maybe it's me but when I've never heard of a brand and they are charging nearly $300 a box something is wrong.

RevSmoke 02-08-2011 02:03 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Impeccably rolled sticks. I have had my share and never had one that had issues because of the roll.

As for what they're worth? I am smoked crap from $250 -> to $500 boxes of cigars, well-known cigars. Advertised the snot out of dog rockets. Just because everybody's heard of them doesn't make them good.

PGs are incredible smokes. If I could afford them, I'd buy more of them, in a heartbeat. Well worth the coin.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Ranger_B 02-08-2011 02:05 PM
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I think they are top notch cigars. The ones I have had have always burned great and the flavors where spot on. I just have a hard time finding them and the price is sometimes painful. That being said it is a cigar that lives up to the price IMO.

68TriShield 02-08-2011 02:08 PM
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If you call the store in Northern Va. you will probably talk to his son.
A good cigar but not my thing.

Skywalker 02-08-2011 02:18 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Everyone I've had has been outstanding!

Huy mentioned the lancero!!!:tu

BTcigars 02-08-2011 02:23 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1165701)
Yeah, he's been around for a while. My buddy use to carry his line back in the 90s but they just became too expensive and no one bought them.

Not sure which PG I smoked but, it was the lancero, and it was great.

BT, if you are looking for some, I know that Tobacco Republic carries them, or use to carry them. I'm sure you already knew that though.
Hi Huy. I actually have several sticks sitting in my humi. The reason why I posted this was because the other day I had a Symphony 20 and it was terrific at the beginning then just absolutely took a turn for the worst in the last third. Luckily I have another one of these Symphony 20's so I am just going to sit on it for a while.

Also, Kevork Garmirian is a great guy and very approachable so people should feel free to email or call him in regards to trying something and he will help you select something that suits your taste.

amsgpwarrior 02-08-2011 02:52 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1165705)
:tpd:

I dunno, maybe it's me but when I've never heard of a brand and they are charging nearly $300 a box something is wrong.
Paul Garmirian has been in the cigar game for a long time. He has loads of aged tobacco that he puts into his cigars. That is why he can charge what he charges for his cigars. Plus he has some of the most respectable people in the game working on his blends and construction. Just because you have never heard of him and his cigars doesn't mean you should bypass his stuff cause that would be a huge mistake.

I wrote a review today about the PG Symphony 20, which was a super good cigar. Easily one of the best I've smoked in the last year.

Just a warning, these cigars are not for beginners. They are stout, and pack a punch.

mosesbotbol 02-08-2011 03:40 PM
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PG's are in the same group as Oscar; not talked about at all by the current generation of cigar smokers.

joeobx 02-08-2011 05:54 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
I wandered into his store the other day after finding it by chance while working in the area. I had never heard of him or the brand. His stick did seem a little pricey. After hearing some thoughts on hear I may try to pick up a couple the next time up that way.

tobii3 02-08-2011 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1165837)
PG's are in the same group as Oscar; not talked about at all by the current generation of cigar smokers.
Abso-frickin-lutely.

His sticks can hold their own with the uber-premiums easily.

mosesbotbol 02-08-2011 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeobx (Post 1165997)
I had never heard of him or the brand. His stick did seem a little pricey.
I assume they were in between Ashton and Davidoff prices?

It's got to be at least 15 years since I smoked a PG. You got me interested and will check my local B&M if he has them.

rizzle 02-09-2011 09:08 AM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by amsgpwarrior (Post 1165800)
Paul Garmirian has been in the cigar game for a long time. He has loads of aged tobacco that he puts into his cigars. That is why he can charge what he charges for his cigars. Plus he has some of the most respectable people in the game working on his blends and construction. Just because you have never heard of him and his cigars doesn't mean you should bypass his stuff cause that would be a huge mistake. I wrote a review today about the PG Symphony 20, which was a super good cigar. Easily one of the best I've smoked in the last year.

Just a warning, these cigars are not for beginners. They are stout, and pack a punch.
My point was, if I've never heard of them, by default I bypass them. See? They could be the greatest thing since creamed corn but if I've never heard of them, I'm living in ignorant bliss without them.

rizzle 02-09-2011 09:09 AM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1166253)
I assume they were in between Ashton and Davidoff prices?

It's got to be at least 15 years since I smoked a PG. You got me interested and will check my local B&M if he has them.
Out of curiosity, Moses, if they are so good why have you not smoked one in 15 years? :confused:

mosesbotbol 02-09-2011 11:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1166719)
Out of curiosity, Moses, if they are so good why have you not smoked one in 15 years? :confused:
Just smoke Habanos... At that time 15 years ago, I liked the NC Partagas Limited Reserves more than PG's.

rizzle 02-09-2011 01:05 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Gotcha. I guess they're not really that good then.

RevSmoke 02-09-2011 01:10 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1166719)
Out of curiosity, Moses, if they are so good why have you not smoked one in 15 years? :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1166909)
Just smoke Habanos... At that time 15 years ago, I liked the NC Partagas Limited Reserves more than PG's.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1167022)
Gotcha. I guess they're not really that good then.
No, they are that good.

I could smoke more CCs, but don't. Each person's flavor profile is different. What I like may not be what my best friend likes. That doesn't mean that either of us have less class or taste than the other, it just means that we have different tastes.

There isn't a CC out there that tastes like a PG, or a Litto Gomez, or a Coronado, or a PAM '64, or an Oliva V, or a Taboo HSG, or a Tat Verocu #5, of an AF Anejo, or a... and I'm not going to give any of them up.

On the other hand, none of those tastes like any of the CCs I have in my humidor.

Ain't it grand that I can enjoy both and love life and live large?

My only request is this, I wish y'all would quit liking my favorites so that that prices can drop on them and I get get them for nearly nothing. Thanks!

Peace of the Lrod be with you.

TBone 02-09-2011 01:59 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
I'm a light weight and probably wouldn't do good to smoke one...Hell I puked on a Gorilla Finger...go figure.

tobii3 02-09-2011 02:16 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBone (Post 1167105)
Hell I puked on a Gorilla Finger...go figure.
EVERYONE pukes on the Gorilla Finger, TBone. Just ask KelMac....:D

rizzle 02-09-2011 08:52 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1167035)
No, they are that good.

I could smoke more CCs, but don't. Each person's flavor profile is different. What I like may not be what my best friend likes. That doesn't mean that either of us have less class or taste than the other, it just means that we have different tastes.

There isn't a CC out there that tastes like a PG, or a Litto Gomez, or a Coronado, or a PAM '64, or an Oliva V, or a Taboo HSG, or a Tat Verocu #5, of an AF Anejo, or a... and I'm not going to give any of them up.

On the other hand, none of those tastes like any of the CCs I have in my humidor.

Ain't it grand that I can enjoy both and love life and live large?

My only request is this, I wish y'all would quit liking my favorites so that that prices can drop on them and I get get them for nearly nothing. Thanks!


Peace of the Lrod be with you.
I'm with you, Rev. That post was tongue in cheek. ;)

omowasu 02-09-2011 10:21 PM
Re: PG Cigars
 
Garmirians are great if you like a grassy flavor profile in your smokes. I have had several and liked them all, and they had a unique grassy flavor that is probably the best in the NC market.

They were rolled in the Davidoff factory under H. Kelners supervision prior to and during the 1990s cigar boom... I dont know if they still are though.

PGs are also hard to find... he has very few retailers and doesnt do Internet retailer sales.

Id suggest trying one of the stronger ones if you have the opportunity. The only thing bad about them is the price.


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