pistol or cigars?
 

well most of my extra fun money goes toward buying cigars, but ill be leaving the service soon and living on my own. So ive been thinking about and researching buying a pistol. What is every ones thought on this, Holding off on cigars to save for a pistol or just keep buyin cigars :sh

if pistol, what do you guys recommend? So far im looking at a .40

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I would buy a weapon, a weapon can save your life. Cigars won't.

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Springfield XD45... then cigars....it's much funner to have a weapon then smoke cigars...otherwise you're smoking without being able to shoot... = no fun.

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Get a pistol then you can rob a cigar store. solved. You're welcome.:tu

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Have you been drinking tonight, igmo?

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Not so you'd notice. I only drink one glass of wine on the advice of my doctor and that aint enough to impair my judgement.:tu

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Critical thinking skills aren't something that everyone has Peter.:r

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igmo-lite. :noon

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Glock 23 then more cigars!

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I have a Glock 27 that I love.

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I had one of those and wish I hadn't gotten rid of it. Believe it or not I can shoot the 27 better than the 23 though.

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I have had a 23 for about 5 years now. My first was the 19, but it's way to big. I also have a 27, which is a great CCW, IMO.

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I'm looking into a HK USP Compact, also a P30s. We'll see what I end up with. I don't particularly like glocks I've shot a few ...not for me.

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Glock 30.

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I have a baby Glock that I carry off duty, but we (Detroit Police) were issued the new S&W MP 40 cal. It is so much more accurate than the Glock. I still own two Glocks, the 23 &27, but the SW wins hands down. Much better grouping with night sites. Great weapon, light weight, and deadly accurate.

My last qualifying score was 249 out of 250. Best score yet with the SW MP

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Sig Sauer .45. ;)

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I've got an XD40 with the 4inch barrel, I love it. about 500-550 retail. Great gun for the round

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Sounds like the standard issue for Illinois PD....My ex is the Deputy Chief in North Chicago PD, that's what they carry.

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Buy a proper safe that bolts into the ground. Then get a Glock.

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Devan I would look at a 9 or 45. Dont get me wrong I love the 40 but if you are not reloading I would consider the availability of ammo. Knowing you are in the army I am sure you are familiar with the 9mm. I would go to the gun shop and pick up a bunch of pistols and see what feels right. After the feel test then go shoot your top 3 or 4 about a mag each with a few rounds two handed on and off hand and then a few one handed shots in each hand to see how it shoots for you. Then you should be set on your choice. If the .40 is your choice its a good one dont get me wrong I just like knowing I can get ammo when I want it. On a side note I just bought my first revolver and it has opened a whole new world of shooting to me. You can find an XD, Glock, M&P for about the cost of 2 boxes of cigars and the gun will last a lifetime. The gun helps ensure you last a life time as well.

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Greg, err.. igmo... I think you have earned a new nickname ;)

Pistols are good, but a cigar is less likely to get me in trouble.
Stock up on good smokes, then save for the gun.

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Not sure I follow how those are related, but it made me :r

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Glock 23 :tu

I love mine! :gn

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I have faith in my local pd and live in a tamed town. and since I'm a felon from a young hairbrained case I can't own a weopan so I say cigars, plus legally in our state you can;t conceal it brings me back to tamed town and little in house gun burglaries so cigars as well

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I wish that was my duty carry, Howard, we carry the Glock 17. I am much more comfortable with the Sig Sauer.

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Which Sig Sauer Tom?

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I have the P220 DAK, Bill.

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Pistol

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Ah I can definitely see why you would be more comfortable with that than a Glock :r Didn't like a full size Glock either. Had one, sold it. Frankly I don't think it shot straight worth a crap either or maybe it's just me and I shoot twice as good with a 1911.

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Colt 1911 a tried and true proven stopper :tu

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Clock grip angles aren't for everyone.

My advise is to go to a shop with a range and rental pistols. Shoot a few of them and see what suits you.

As for what I have. I have an xd40 subcompact for my carry and a walther p99 40 for target and home protection.
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I'd vote firearm......when I got off active duty (long ago), I got a Ruger Single Six 22cal.....then when I returned from OEF, I got a Kimber Raptor 45acp.....and now that I'm retiring from the service I'll be getting a rifle......& I still buy cigars..........so you can do both if planning ahead

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I'm a skinny guy who is normally in cargo shorts.

An Airweight S&W 38 special is perfect for me and is always on me.

Crimson Trace laser grips sure help with accuracy.

yeah it only carries 5, but if I need more, that means I am in a long gun battle and should have been gone long ago.

I'd rather have it on me than any cigar.

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Love my S&W 340PD (38+P & .357 @ 11oz). icehog I love my sigs as well. So those would be my two choices..

I also agree with the other comments about gun first, cigars next.

Like other said the gun can save your life....

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Go with either the M&P or the Sig.

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Nice, I love that scandium model.

Mines just the plain old 38. I'll bet yours has quite a kick shooting 357's.

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I also vote for a pistol. Been seeing your recent pick ups and it seems like you have a pretty good stash going anyway.
I own a .45 and .40 and find in my area at least that .40 ammo is by far the easiest to pickup with 9mm slowly becoming more readily available but not as much as the .40 round. Around here at least I can run out and get .40 ammo whenever I want but .45 is just about impossible to find unless I am looking to overpay and when I do find it I am spending more than what I want to stock up. I would just research what ammo is easily accessible for you where you will be living.

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Love my M&P. Solid weapon that is very, very affordable and super reliable. I think when I bought my .40 I payed just a little more than $400 . At the time they were running a rebate for money back and two free mags.
If your looking for a solid deal and have an FFL that won't rake you over the coals check out Budsgunshop.com.

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S&w or beretta and cigars

Need both for the zombie apocalypse. All are welcome at my place to hold down then fort. One must bring one or the other for entry.

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i suggest full body searchs for bite marks? both for males and females :sh

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You know, I had read that people who shot it said the web by their thimb would bleed and that the recoil was horrible...and that was with .38+p

When I first shot it I did not have the same experience. The way the grip and gun are designed the recoil seems to go straing back instead of lifting the barrel up....

My dad was afraid to shoot it as well but then i bough some .357 to put through it. After he saw me shooting it he gave it a shot. It actually kicked less than his Taurus...YMMV

With that said, I do not think I would be putting 10rds through it at a time....

either way it is a really fun gun to shoot..

To the OP, sorry for the thread jack but to get back on topic...

What have your experiences been up to this point? Make, model, cal...etc

What do you want to accomplish? Home defense, Conceal carry, competition, or just plain plinking....

Knowing your experience etc may help someone provide a most excellent suggestion..

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Sold the only handgun I have ever owned(Ruger P95) when my first son was born. Used that money(+) to pick up a Winston WT3 376 & a Lamson reel. The rod gets far more use....;)


If you are having a hard time deciding between buying a firearm or cigars, my vote would be to get more cigars.

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Devan,

I say get a gun first. In what state will you be living, and what will you be using the gun for (home protection, carry, recreation, etc.)? That info could affect my recommendations as to which gun.

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goals are home defense and conceal carry, Michigan is the state for now

experience has been limited to assault rifles and machine guns(m16,m4,240B, and 249 saw) as enlisted doesn't normally get ahold of pistols, or atleast i didnt. One of these days ill take my buddies colt 45 and sig 22 to the range but its to cold for that currently.

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Do not remember if it was this thread or not but the comment about going to the range and renting handguns to try seems a pretty good suggestion.

find one that feel good in your hand and then make sure you can actually shoot it.

Home defense and CC are typically accomplished by two different weapons but with careful consideration of all factors involved you can find a handgun that will accomplish both successfully. (Although, I prefer a shotgun for home defense with a handgun as backup)

Once you get into CC you will find that you need a different gun depending on what you are wearing / seasons, etc...

Basically, BEWARE, guns are a slippery slope as well, just like cigars.....

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As far as home defense I stick to an AR or Shotgun. You are already familiar with the AR. Shotguns can be found for cheap. As for CCW again trial and error at a shop with a range. Guns are like cigars there is one for everyone just have to see which one you like. And like cigars guns tend to multiply. Just remember to be responsible. Which ever you choose know that you need to keep shooting it to be good with it. Ammo can be expensive so take the whole package into consideration. Carry method, ammo, magazines, holsters, Range fees ect.

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I agree, I got an AR-15 and a Mossberg for home defense. Anyone further then say 15 feet gets the AR. Both locked and loaded in arms reach.

I also agree you'll probably end up wanting multiple guns for CC. My advice would be to get something in the midsize carry end. Not a snub nose or anything but a Sig or a HK compact. The Springfield XD compact models are also good, or so I hear.

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Pistol, Night hawks custom 9 or 45 both great pistols. Also file for concealed weapons permit while on AD it easyer.

Knip.

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another question. A CWP in Alabama is good in Michigan. Would it be smart to get a CCW in Alabama and once i leave have it transfered to Michigan or w.e. because it looks like i have to apply in person and that's not possible while im stationed here.

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Not positive but I doubt that you have it "transferred". You will probably have to go through the permitting process there.