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Prefy 10-14-2008 09:22 PM

NHL '08- '09 Thread
 
CA can't be my home unless there is some hockey talk!

loki 10-14-2008 09:23 PM

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pens with a big win tonight...not pretty but still a good win

Prefy 10-14-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by loki (Post 2914)
pens with a big win tonight...not pretty but still a good win

I love how the analysts are harping on Sid the kid not scoring...I guess they need something to talk about.

loki 10-14-2008 09:37 PM

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if i have to hear the phrase "pinball around" one more time i'm going to firebomb vs

loki 10-14-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 3012)
I love how the analysts are harping on Sid the kid not scoring...I guess they need something to talk about.

crosby is able to put the puck in the net but unlike ovi, he has a team around them to help him so he doesn't have to do it all by himself

Prefy 10-14-2008 09:48 PM

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Exactly not to mention that Gonchar and Whitney are out. Those are some big puck moving defensemen. Sometimes I want to give Bob Mackenzie a shot in the mouth.

SmokeyJoe 10-14-2008 11:20 PM

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Still smarting over the butt-whoopin' Detroit put on my Hurricanes. :(

Hoping they continue to develop... I am optimistic that some of the changes they made will bear fruit.

icehog3 10-15-2008 01:39 AM

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Still looking for the first Hawks win of the year...only a couple of teams can still say that. :fl

Gophernut 10-15-2008 11:24 AM

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I have to say I am happy with the way my Wild team has been playing so far. Actually averaging more than a goal a game! Lemaire must have really opened up the offense!!!:ss

Ace$nyper 10-15-2008 11:25 AM

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Going to be another sad year for Flyers fans :fl

Beer Doctor 10-15-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 3905)
Still looking for the first Hawks win of the year...only a couple of teams can still say that. :fl


Don't worry...I'm sure they'll get one this year:D

Did Jack Skille make the team or did they send him back down to Rockford? I might have to start rooting for the Hawks with all the x-Badgers...

gpugliese 10-15-2008 02:13 PM

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Rangers going for 6-0 on the year even without the first line clicking just yet.

I probably just jinxed it. :(

rhdad42 10-15-2008 02:30 PM

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I'm liking the Rangers so far this year. It's refreshing to see a young team (I think they said the 5th youngest in the league on TV the other night) playing like a team. They're still making some mistakes in their own end, but Henrik has been bailing them out. Hopefully over time those will go away.

Buffalo should be a good test tonight.

darb85 10-15-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 3905)
Still looking for the first Hawks win of the year...only a couple of teams can still say that. :fl

as much as it pains me to say it, Knowing the history of the wings and hawks, they will probably win their first one there! bah :D

Go Wings!

icehog3 10-15-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Doctor (Post 6522)
Don't worry...I'm sure they'll get one this year:D

Did Jack Skille make the team or did they send him back down to Rockford? I might have to start rooting for the Hawks with all the x-Badgers...

Skille made the team, and has been one of the better forwards through 3 games. :tu

hockeydad 10-15-2008 04:48 PM

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Looks like the Leafs have another player that everyone can hate again(see Tucker, Domi). Hellwig(sp?) gets three more games for the hit on Pietrangelo(BTW a former or maybe still Niagara Icedog).
Ryan now needs to go 41 games without a major to expunge his record. If not he keeps adding the games to the suspensions. It's 3 now, next would be 4 etc etc.

stevefrench 10-15-2008 05:07 PM

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Bruins play the Habs in Montreal in about 30 minutes. Original six! :tu

Deucer 10-15-2008 05:29 PM

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GO SHARKS!!!!

loki 10-15-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 3905)
Still looking for the first Hawks win of the year...only a couple of teams can still say that. :fl

have faith tom...we'll get there sooner or later

loki 10-15-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 6530)
Rangers going for 6-0 on the year even without the first line clicking just yet.

I probably just jinxed it. :(

it was sad what happened to the player in Russia...can't remember his name...but he was way to young to die

stevefrench 10-15-2008 09:01 PM

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Habs win in a shootout! What a game!:tu

Prefy 10-15-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stevefrench (Post 9045)
Habs win in a shootout! What a game!:tu

It was a great game!!!

Hawks Win! With Knabby in net...go fantasy points:D

Beer Doctor 10-16-2008 10:53 AM

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Blackhawks fire Savard after 4 games, hire Quenneville
By Pierre LeBrun
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: October 16, 2008, 12:44 PM ET

The Chicago Blackhawks fired head coach Denis Savard just four games into the season on Thursday, replacing him with NHL coaching veteran Joel Quenneville.



"I'm disappointed but I guess it's the nature of the business," Savard said from his Chicago home Thursday.


"I know I was doing a good job, I'm dedicated to my work. Obviously they felt they had to make a change, so what can you do."

Savard, who was in the last year of his contract, was told he'd been fired Thursday morning by GM Dale Tallon.


"I knew I had to do well this year. We talked this summer and I was aware of that," Savard said.


In a prepared statement, the team said firing Savard -- one of the franchise's greatest players -- was not easy.

"This was an extremely hard day for this organization and for me personally," Tallon said. "Denis is forever a part of our organization. We made a tough decision that we strongly feel is the right one as we continue to evaluate our team and create a championship caliber organization that can sustain success."

Quenneville, according to Tallon, "brings us a wealth of experience and a winning track record that will have an immediate and lasting impact."


Quenneville, who had been working as a scout for the Blackhawks, coached the Colorado Avalanche from 2005 through 2008 and led the St. Louis Blues for seven seasons (1996-2004). He has a 438-283-118 career record, including a 44-31-7 mark in Colorado last season.



Led by sophomore stars Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane, the Blackhawks have high hopes to make it back into the playoffs this season. They lost their first three games before finally winning 4-1 over Phoenix on Wednesday night.

"They promised to bring a Stanley Cup here, and they felt maybe I wasn't their guy. It's very well understood," said Savard.

"The only thing I can say is that last year I thought I did a heck of a job with our young kids," added Savard. "Eight to 10 rookies in our lineup. We had a bit of a slow start this year but I thought the team was on the right track. I guess it goes with the territory. As a coach you're judged on wins and losses."

Savard posted a 65-66-16 record in parts of three seasons as coach of the Blackhawks.

A member of the Hockey Hall of Fame as a player, he had 473 goals and 865 assists in 1,196 career games with the Blackhawks, Montreal Canadiens and Tampa Bay Lightning.



ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun covers the NHL. ESPN The Magazine's E.J. Hradek contributed to this report.

Gophernut 10-16-2008 11:00 AM

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That seems a little of an overeaction to me. But, when the pressure is on, I guess you have to win em all or at least most of them.

icehog3 10-16-2008 01:15 PM

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I had not seen the Savard firing until just now. I am a little stunned.

Prefy 10-16-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 11963)
I had not seen the Savard firing until just now. I am a little stunned.

Ya I didn't see that one coming...

On a side note Fabian Brunnstrom scored hatrick in his NHL debut last night...

"The Swede became the third player in NHL history to score a hat trick in his first game, joining Alex Smart of the Montreal Canadiens (Jan. 14, 1943) and Real Cloutier of the Quebec Nordiques (Oct. 10, 1979).Lucky I picked him up for the fantasy pool:D"

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2527...=headlines_nhl

Luckily I picked him up in my fantasy pool!:D

Deucer 10-16-2008 01:24 PM

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Savard firing seems ridiculous. 4 games into the season? Why not fire him over the summer or give him a chance to succeed?

icehog3 10-16-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deucer (Post 12012)
Savard firing seems ridiculous. 4 games into the season? Why not fire him over the summer or give him a chance to succeed?

Totally agree. :2

Prefy 10-16-2008 02:43 PM

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Interesting that they hire a guy who was just arrested for drunk driving...good example for all those young guys.

Prefy 10-16-2008 04:54 PM

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After closer inspection I think this was the plan from the beginning...they weren't just bringing him in as a scout.

icehog3 10-16-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 12917)
After closer inspection I think this was the plan from the beginning...they weren't just bringing him in as a scout.

Could have been handled with a bit more class, IMHO.

Prefy 10-16-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 12948)
Could have been handled with a bit more class, IMHO.

Or hired him before the start of the season...its still confusing to me how a guy with a recent DUI is in charge of running of a team that is so young.

Talk about Social Responsibility

icehog3 10-16-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 12958)
Or hired him before the start of the season...its still confusing to me how a guy with a recent DUI is in charge of running of a team that is so young.

Talk about Social Responsibility

You know, one DUI can be a case of a night of poor judgment...I wouldn't trash a guy's career over it. :2

Prefy 10-16-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 12978)
You know, one DUI can be a case of a night of poor judgment...I wouldn't trash a guy's career over it. :2

I was in no way trashing his career rather I find it interesting that this has been made a bigger deal of. I love hockey but the NHL has a way of sweeping things under the rug if noone gets hurt. To me no punishment for these kinds of offenses makes it seem like the NHL doesn't care unless someone dies.

icehog3 10-17-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 13129)
I was in no way trashing his career rather I find it interesting that this has been made a bigger deal of. I love hockey but the NHL has a way of sweeping things under the rug if noone gets hurt. To me no punishment for these kinds of offenses makes it seem like the NHL doesn't care unless someone dies.

But I am not sure what you would have the NHL do, Matt...not let him coach again because of one DUI?

Prefy 10-17-2008 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 15495)
But I am not sure what you would have the NHL do, Matt...not let him coach again because of one DUI?

Personally I would have a very tough policy on this kind of thing. Suspension without pay(1st offense)...Indefinite suspension(Possible Expulsion) and forfeiture of contract(2nd offense). Everybody in the league would fall under the same disciplinary procedures(President-Stick boy). Like you said everyone gets one chance to make a mistake but the second is another issue.

Queenville hasn't been found guilty yet as far as I know but in the event that he has been my punishment would follow 1st offense guidelines(as I can't find any information as to whether or not he has previous convictions)

I have seen too many people affected by drunk driving..overall there is no justification anyone can use to substantiate the possibility of lose of life that drinking and driving propagates. To me its like looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, its just something I wouldn't do. This is something I feel passionately about...come to think of it I may write a paper on this for my sport policy class. All in All its just my :2 and really what to they matter in the grand scheme of things:D

icehog3 10-17-2008 10:54 AM

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I am a big supporter of sober driving, but I am not sure that taking away one's job for a first offense is truly the way to go....just MHO. :)

Prefy 10-17-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 15582)

Personally I would have a very tough policy on this kind of thing. Suspension without pay(1st offense)...Indefinite suspension(Possible Expulsion) and forfeiture of contract(2nd offense). Everybody in the league would fall under the same disciplinary procedures(President-Stick boy). Like you said everyone gets one chance to make a mistake but the second is another issue.

Queenville hasn't been found guilty yet as far as I know but in the event that he has been my punishment would follow 1st offense guidelines(as I can't find any information as to whether or not he has previous convictions)

Did you take a shot to the head last night time Tom:D:D:D:D or maybe it was just unclear the way that I wrote things.

1st offense I would have suspension without pay(set amount of games 10, 15 who knows). Not the end of a career just a the NHL taking a firm stance saying this not acceptable.

I like debates especially when they don't involve politics or religion:D

icehog3 10-17-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 15745)
Did you take a shot to the head last night time Tom:D:D:D:D or maybe it was just unclear the way that I wrote things.

1st offense I would have suspension without pay(set amount of games).

I like debates especially when they don't involve politics or religion:D

The games suspension makes sense....maybe 8 games for a first offense, if convicted?

Prefy 10-17-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 15759)
The games suspension makes sense....maybe 8 games for a first offense, if convicted?

I would have qualms about that, it would shown that the NHL takes the matter seriously.

Back to other impartant matters

HABS FOR STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

icehog3 10-17-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 15804)

HABS FOR STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

I object, your Honor. :r

stevefrench 10-17-2008 03:05 PM

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HABS FOR STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

You can count on my vote!:D

Prefy 10-17-2008 03:54 PM

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You can count on my vote!:D

Sweet! 66% of the popular vote!

icehog3 10-17-2008 04:54 PM

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Sweet! 66% of the popular vote!

Vote? Sure.

Popular? :r

loki 10-17-2008 09:03 PM

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man the pens/caps game was painful

icehog3 10-17-2008 10:03 PM

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From a Chicago Tribune articel about new Hawks coacjh Joel Quenneville:

Quote:

The young Blackhawks can count on one thing. With Elizabeth (Joel's wife) Quenneville's family business as one the largest tobacconists in the world, their coach will enjoy the occasional cigar after a game.

And, Lemieux says, he shares.

"They were free and they were good," he said. "If we won, we got to smoke. If they win, they can smoke."

Beer Doctor 10-18-2008 09:56 AM

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:ih

Just wanted to use the new smilie

:ih

stevefrench 10-18-2008 10:16 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
Here ya go, Tom. Attachment 153

icehog3 10-18-2008 10:32 AM

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Here ya go, Tom. Attachment 153

:r :r :tu

Gophernut 10-19-2008 11:10 AM

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Poor Barry Melrose. Can't buy a win. He get's a point, but loses to my Wild in a shootout last night!


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