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newcigarz 06-07-2010 11:34 AM

iphone 4 just announced.
 
Follow WWDC live here,


http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/s...est&refresh=60

Wanger 06-07-2010 11:44 AM

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...and i wanted one BEFORE seeing that. LOL

newcigarz 06-07-2010 11:46 AM

Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
specs are amazing

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....193-rm-eng.jpg

JE3146 06-07-2010 11:50 AM

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Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.

Wanger 06-07-2010 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879861)
Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.

Then don't drop it, butterfingers. :p

newcigarz 06-07-2010 11:57 AM

Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
new camera , also records HD video.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....242-rm-eng.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....248-rm-eng.jpg

shilala 06-07-2010 12:28 PM

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Someone get me one of these real quick, okay? ;)
I'll check the whole rollout later. I'll be happy with the new OS for my iPhone and iPad. I desperately want multitasking.
I honestly don't want to take video of pics with my phone. I enjoy a lot more quality tan they can deliver. I do love the way Apple is going, though. :tu

JE3146 06-07-2010 12:31 PM

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Enjoy iAd....

J0eybb 06-07-2010 12:35 PM

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how do you get rid of Iaids?

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879885)
Enjoy iAd....

seems pretty unobtrusive to me.


video calling. WiFi only in 2010

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....360-rm-eng.jpg

Blueface 06-07-2010 12:38 PM

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Can't wait to upgrade my 3G.
I can do it in October but I hear they are letting you do it sooner to sell new units.
As soon as available, I am there.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 879891)
Can't wait to upgrade my 3G.
I can do it in October but I hear they are letting you do it sooner to sell new units.
As soon as available, I am there.


yes Carlos, this is what I saw.

http://g.media.macrumorslive.com/m/a...ligibility.jpg


just announced.

AT&T is going to make an incredibly generous upgrade offer. If your contract expires at any time in 2010, you can upgrade to the iPhone 4. You can get it up to six months early."

Blueface 06-07-2010 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879892)
yes Carlos, this is what I saw.

http://g.media.macrumorslive.com/m/a...ligibility.jpg


just announced.

AT&T is going to make an incredibly generous upgrade offer. If your contract expires at any time in 2010, you can upgrade to the iPhone 4. You can get it up to six months early."

Being the toy freak I am, $18 is a steal over having to wait 4 months.:r

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Jun 24th

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....395-rm-eng.jpg


preorders start June 15th

mmblz 06-07-2010 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 879887)
how do you get rid of Iaids?

as far as i can tell - just don't use apps that have ads.
ads are added by the developer of the app - not by the iphone...

Blueface 06-07-2010 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879897)

Will bring it to our next herf.:tu
16GB is good enough for me.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 879900)
Will bring it to our next herf.:tu
16GB is good enough for me.

til you start shooting HD video of your grandson. ;)

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 879899)
as far as i can tell - just don't use apps that have ads.
ads are added by the developer of the app - not by the iphone...

also they can be x'ed out of at anytime

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....328-rm-eng.jpg

The Professor 06-07-2010 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879861)
Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.

"We developed a glass that's 30 times harder than plastic."

newcigarz 06-07-2010 12:52 PM

Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879861)
Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 879909)
"We developed a glass that's 30 times harder than plastic."

OH that genius :r:r:r

The Professor 06-07-2010 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879910)
OH that genius :r:r:r

:r

This phone may just be cool enough to get me to go back to ATT. Wow.

sikk50 06-07-2010 01:00 PM

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I wish there was more memory though. I've got over 100gigs of music. I stopped using my iPod when I bought my 3G (day after they were released, upgrade time!) but having to change my music around all the time is tiresome

newcigarz 06-07-2010 01:13 PM

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Officially up on Apple's website now.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

CigarNut 06-07-2010 01:15 PM

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I thought that it was intersting that no other carriers or platforms for other carriers were even hinted at... I would have figured that if Apple was going to do something with another carrier this would have been the place to announce it...

Blueface 06-07-2010 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879910)
OH that genius :r:r:r

The same genius that was told his iPad is useless and has sold how many in two months?:r

JE3146 06-07-2010 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 879909)
"We developed a glass that's 30 times harder than plastic."

For the record, that statement was posted long after I made my comment ;)

The Professor 06-07-2010 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 879928)
I thought that it was intersting that no other carriers or platforms for other carriers were even hinted at... I would have figured that if Apple was going to do something with another carrier this would have been the place to announce it...

Yeah ... but that's not how Apple operates. I don't think another carrier is in the foreseeable future. I'd be surprised if it was announced in time for the holiday season in November. I think it's more likely to come in 2011 or even later.

T.G 06-07-2010 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 879909)
"We developed a glass that's 30 times harder than plastic."

I'll believe that once I've gone to an AT&T store and it doesn't break when I accidentally drop one and then accidentally step on it before picking it up.

JE3146 06-07-2010 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 879932)
The same genius that was told his iPad is useless and has sold how many in two months?:r

So you really think Steve Jobs is the 'genius' that invented this special glass?

Is that the way I'm reading this?

JE3146 06-07-2010 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 879948)
Yeah ... but that's not how Apple operates. I don't think another carrier is in the foreseeable future. I'd be surprised if it was announced in time for the holiday season in November. I think it's more likely to come in 2011 or even later.

2011-2012 is a more realistic expectation with the standardization of LTE.

smitdavi 06-07-2010 01:45 PM

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I know both Katie and I will be getting one. Pretty sweet imo

MiamiE 06-07-2010 01:46 PM

Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Count me in.

mithrilG60 06-07-2010 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879861)
Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.

Actually the glass used in iPhone's (not just the 4th gen just announced) is amazingly tough and almost impossible to scratch. The only way they break is if you drop the phone and it lands directly on a corner concentrating the entire force in a very small area. I'll be intrigued to see if the new "30x stronger than plastic" glass they've developed for this phone will withstand those kind of impacts better than previous gen's.

JE3146 06-07-2010 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 879973)
Actually the glass used in iPhone's (not just the 4th gen just announced) is amazingly tough and almost impossible to scratch. The only way they break is if you drop the phone and it lands directly on a corner concentrating the entire force in a very small area. I'll be intrigued to see if the new "30x stronger than plastic" glass they've developed for this phone will withstand those kind of impacts better than previous gen's.

I've seen a couple people I know with chipped glass on the front edges of their iPhone, which is why it concerned me. Didn't affect functionality, just looked atrocious.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 01:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879960)
So you really think Steve Jobs is the 'genius' that invented this special glass?

Is that the way I'm reading this?

We get it, you don't care for the iphone, AT&T, Steve Jobs, or all of them put together. Plenty of options out there for you. :2

I started this thread becuase I knew there were plenty of people excited about the new iphone.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879947)
For the record, that statement was posted long after I made my comment ;)

And that makes your comment valid how? :confused:

aich75013 06-07-2010 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879976)
I've seen a couple people I know with chipped glass on the front edges of their iPhone, which is why it concerned me. Didn't affect functionality, just looked atrocious.

I've seen a Blackberry and an Android phone with cracked screens as well.

s0leful0ne 06-07-2010 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879998)
And that makes your comment valid how? :confused:

I dont think it was meant to validate his comment it was meant to save face :)

I really want this phone, but I dont want an AT&T plan especially with their new policy on internet usage. Tethering was a dealbreaker for me the last time I shopped an iphone, and with the ubiquity of wi-fi in public places, the new rates don't appeal to me.

It doesnt look like any other carriers are gonna show up on the iphone anytime soon. AT&T is doing alot of backscratching for apple with the iPad so in return the iPhone is going to stay exclusive.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aich75013 (Post 880012)
I've seen a Blackberry and an Android phone with cracked screens as well.

Yes, it happens.

This is the iphone that the new iphone 4 will be replacing. It is an original Edge iphone purchased the 2nd day they were available. never had a single day of trouble and never broke the glass.

http://www.fototime.com/D6B3FFDB12D855D/standard.jpg

mithrilG60 06-07-2010 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879976)
I've seen a couple people I know with chipped glass on the front edges of their iPhone, which is why it concerned me. Didn't affect functionality, just looked atrocious.

Those are from dropping it on the edges, it applies much more force to a smaller area. I've had friends that were unlucky enough to drop theirs right on the corner and completely spiderweb the screen and it's still been completely usable. I've also seen Blackberry's, including most of the work units at my office, that have stood up far worst to much less abuse and look like total ass within 6 months of being issued.

It's all in how well you take care of your stuff. If you were one of the kids on teh playground that was always abusing their toys and breaking them then any smartphone is probably not the best purchase decision. If you're careful with it, especially if you buy a case, your iPhone will look exactly the same in a couple years as it does the day it comes out of the box.

JE3146 06-07-2010 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879998)
And that makes your comment valid how? :confused:

Oh jee, I donno :rolleyes:

http://googleg.info/Image/broken-iphone.jpg

I'd say my original concern was pretty darn valid. And then later in the presentation they clarified. Glad you all can feel high and mighty over it at my expense.

MiamiE 06-07-2010 02:52 PM

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I've seen Tony's phone on the floor squirming like a fish out of water. Thing is made of Ti. :r

newcigarz 06-07-2010 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880066)
Oh jee, I donno :rolleyes:


I'd say my original concern was pretty darn valid. And then later in the presentation they clarified. Glad you all can feel high and mighty over it at my expense.

My point was that you immediately questioned the integrity of a dual sided glass phone before your even knew how they were doing it.
I personally thought apple would use wax paper and rubber bands rather that the latest technology available. :rolleyes:

JE3146 06-07-2010 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 879991)
We get it, you don't care for the iphone, AT&T, Steve Jobs, or all of them put together. Plenty of options out there for you. :2

I started this thread becuase I knew there were plenty of people excited about the new iphone.

I own a Macbook pro and an iPod. ;)

What I don't care for are the people who bath in steve job's sweat.

If a product has flaws, I'm gonna question it. Just like any other device on the market. People get too hyped up over Apple to see things clearly.

As for AT&T, not too thrilled with them, and I used to be a customer. Never more.

JE3146 06-07-2010 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880078)
My point was that you immediately questioned the integrity of a dual sided glass phone before your even knew how they were doing it.
I personally thought apple would use wax paper and rubber bands rather that the latest technology available. :rolleyes:

The slideshow is play by play. Everyone else got caught up in it before the end, how is what I said any different?

Actually it was different. I was questioning a design choice instead of applauding it.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880080)

What I don't care for are the people who bath in steve job's sweat.

Yep that's me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880080)
If a product has flaws, I'm gonna question it. Just like any other device on the market. People get too hyped up over Apple to see things clearly.

Interesting that you know it has flaws even before it comes out. I on the other having enjoyed Apple products for the last decade and a half, will anticipate it's greatness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880080)
As for AT&T, not too thrilled with them, and I used to be a customer. Never more.

Kinda partial to AT&T also, puts food on the table in my house.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880088)
Yep that's me.



Interesting that you know it has flaws even before it comes out. I on the other having enjoyed Apple products for the last decade and a half, will anticipate it's greatness.



Kinda partial to AT&T also, puts food on the table in my house.

Interesting how you know it's going to be a success before it comes out.. :rolleyes:

See the pic above. I'll hang on to my judgement until proven wrong.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880082)
T. I was questioning a design choice instead of applauding it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880082)
Glass front and back? What genius thought that up. One drop and done.

That is really stretching what you said.

I on the other hand saw glass front and back and thought. Man someone at Apple must have thought up some cool sh*t to be able to pull that one off.

sikk50 06-07-2010 03:07 PM

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I hope the glass really is better. I bought my 3g the day or two after they were released. I'm on my 4th one. One broken sim card read and two cracked screens. I've been lucky and only had to pay to replace one as the guy made a mistake on the second replacement procedure. But I gotta admitt $200 replacement fee really cuts into my cigar and Keystone budget

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:08 PM

Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880090)
Interesting how you know it's going to be a success before it comes out.. :rolleyes:

See the pic above. I'll hang on to my judgement until proven wrong.


It will be, Apple is going to sell a ton of them.


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