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junkinduck 05-16-2010 05:10 PM

Need a pronunciation key
 
This is a newby thing. I don't mind being new but would like to sound a little more like I know what I am talking about. The only Spanish I know I learned from Doria the explorer so I am handicaped at the B&M. Does anyone have a way to help me sound less ignorant?
Thanks for any help

Mugen910 05-16-2010 05:22 PM

Re: Need a pronunciation key
 
What is it you want to know how to say? Don't worry about sounding ignorant...your cash will make the B&M not care :)
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bobarian 05-16-2010 05:37 PM

Re: Need a pronunciation key
 
Cuban marcas. http://www.mycigarsite.com/subopcion...cion5aeng.html

captain53 05-16-2010 05:38 PM

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Do all your business on the Internet and everything is in clear English!:tu

thebayratt 05-16-2010 05:43 PM

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We were dicussing the same thing at a B&M friday. We were talking on how to pronounce Illusione. (Illusionay or Illusionee). Billy at the shop said he gets people who ask for CAO as "cow" and others. I have trouble sometimes with a few, but like Mugen910 said, your cash will not make them care how you say it. All else fails, ask how do they pronounce it.

junkinduck 05-16-2010 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 860677)

Thanks,
Will bookmark this one
now for the NC brands?

junkinduck 05-16-2010 06:06 PM

Re: Need a pronunciation key
 
Bobarians post got me to lookin and I found this http://text-to-speech.imtranslator.net/ I thik this will work for me. I just set the dude to spanish.

Barteur 05-16-2010 06:11 PM

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This is awesome, any links for portable device?

leasingthisspace 05-16-2010 06:53 PM

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I am interested in this. Thanks for the link.
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hotreds 05-16-2010 07:21 PM

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s-o-c-k-s

macpappy 05-17-2010 04:31 AM

Re: Need a pronunciation key
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebayratt (Post 860685)
We were dicussing the same thing at a B&M friday. We were talking on how to pronounce Illusione. (Illusionay or Illusionee). Billy at the shop said he gets people who ask for CAO as "cow" and others. I have trouble sometimes with a few, but like Mugen910 said, your cash will not make them care how you say it. All else fails, ask how do they pronounce it.

Illusion. with the "e" silent.
Is how I've mainly heard it pronounced.

Stinky 05-20-2010 11:54 PM

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Here's a link that will help (and pronounce) some Cuban brand pronunciations:

[edited by croatan]

http://www.intercigars.co.uk/cigar-pronunciation.html

The name that is most difficult for me is Por Larranaga "por la ran ya ga" . . .
try saying that! And, be sure to roll your tongue on the "R"!

KenyanSandBoa 05-21-2010 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinky (Post 864974)
Here's a link that will help (and pronounce) some Cuban brand pronunciations:

[edited by croatan]

or read this one:
http://www.intercigars.co.uk/cigar-pronunciation.html

The name that is most difficult for me is Por Larranaga "por la ran ya ga" . . .
try saying that! And, be sure to roll your tongue on the "R"!

That's the site I used to figure some of these out too. When I first saw "5 Vegas" I read it as "Five Vegas"...had no idea to read the 5 in spanish. :r

RevSmoke 05-21-2010 07:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenyanSandBoa (Post 865191)
That's the site I used to figure some of these out too. When I first saw "5 Vegas" I read it as "Five Vegas"...had no idea to read the 5 in spanish. :r

You buying it in Spanish or in English? ;s

I am still going to call it five Vegas. :banger

Dark Jester 05-21-2010 08:32 AM

Re: Need a pronunciation key
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebayratt (Post 860685)
We were dicussing the same thing at a B&M friday. We were talking on how to pronounce Illusione. (Illusionay or Illusionee). Billy at the shop said he gets people who ask for CAO as "cow" and others. I have trouble sometimes with a few, but like Mugen910 said, your cash will not make them care how you say it. All else fails, ask how do they pronounce it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 860981)
Illusion. with the "e" silent.
Is how I've mainly heard it pronounced.

Just found out last night that Dion Giolito owns the local shop that I've been getting sticks from (Fumare in Reno, NV). :) Been seeing him once or twice a week for a couple months now, and I had no idea he was the owner of the Illusione brand as well. I'd planned on stopping by his place later today to pick up a couple of them, as I haven't tried them yet. I'll get the difinitive answer for you guys. -(P

KenyanSandBoa 05-21-2010 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 865205)
You buying it in Spanish or in English? ;s

I am still going to call it five Vegas. :banger

I prefer to buy in English whenever possible. :D

I've just noticed that on sites like CI, they actually note next to the title (pronounced cinco vegas).

BC-Axeman 05-21-2010 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captain53 (Post 860679)
Do all your business on the Internet and everything is in clear English!:tu

But are internet cigars as good as B&M cigars?


















;s

stearns 05-21-2010 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 865335)
But are internet cigars as good as B&M cigars?

:bh:bh

just go with what you thinks right, if its way off dont be offended if someone innocently corrects you

stearns

Volt 05-21-2010 10:56 AM

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Look I know Southern english real good, a smattering of the Queen's english so i can converse with my Northern BOTLs, and that's it. Thanks god Simon and Ferd speak better english than I do Dutch. Click, checkout and smile. No translation required :p

Blueface 05-21-2010 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by junkinduck (Post 860694)
Bobarians post got me to lookin and I found this http://text-to-speech.imtranslator.net/ I thik this will work for me. I just set the dude to spanish.

:r:r:r

Love it.

I typed in "pinga" and it pronounced it perfectly.
I think I will try maricon, mamao, come mierda and some others next.:r

Blueface 05-21-2010 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 865433)
:r:r:r

Love it.

I typed in "pinga" and it pronounced it perfectly.
I think I will try maricon, mamao, come mierda and some others next.:r

The rest didn't work as well.
Also tried "hijo de puta". Not even close.
Not good at all for all uses.:r

Dark Jester 05-21-2010 12:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 865249)
Just found out last night that Dion Giolito owns the local shop that I've been getting sticks from (Fumare in Reno, NV). :) Been seeing him once or twice a week for a couple months now, and I had no idea he was the owner of the Illusione brand as well. I'd planned on stopping by his place later today to pick up a couple of them, as I haven't tried them yet. I'll get the difinitive answer for you guys. -(P

Confirmed it's Illusion (e is silent). :) Picked up an '888', cg:4, and f9. Will give them a spin this weekend and see how they go. -(P

Emjaysmash 05-21-2010 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 865434)
The rest didn't work as well.
Also tried "hijo de puta". Not even close.
Not good at all for all uses.:r

:r

too funny!

AvoFiend 05-24-2010 06:02 AM

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Taken from cigar.com:
Fuente - Fuen-Teh
CAO - See Aay Oh
Tatuaje - Tattoo Ahh Hey
5 Vegas - Sinko Vegas
La Vieja Habana - La Vee Aay Ha Habana
Camacho - Kah Ma Cho
Cusano - Ku San Oh
Avo - Ah Vo
Carlos Torano - Carlos Tor Ahn Yo
La Aurora 100 Anos - La Ah-Roar Ah See-En An Yos
Padilla Miami - Pad dee ya Miami
Padron - Pah Drone
Partagas - Par Tah Gus
Romeo y Julieta - Rome-ay-o ee Hoo-lee-eh-tah
Anejo - Ahn-yay-ho
Joya de Nicaragua - Hoy-ah-day-Nicaragua
Ramon Allones - Ramone-ah-yone-ez
Cabaiguan - kah-bei-gWAHN
por larranaga - por la ron ya ga
Palio - Pal-ee-oh
Pepin - Pe-peen
Xicar - Zy-car
Illusione - Eh Loo-Zee-Own-EE
Davidoff - Dah Vid Off

also some .wav files of pronunciation
http://www.mycigarsite.com/subopcion...cion5aeng.html

itzfrank 05-24-2010 08:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AvoFiend (Post 867571)
Taken from cigar.com:
Illusione - Eh Loo-Zee-Own-EE
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:tu

I was trying to figure out how to spell "louge" for Il-Louge-Eon :r

Kreth 05-24-2010 08:45 AM

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Scroll up: Dark Jester found out his local B&M was owned by Dion Giolito and asked him. Apparently, it's pronounced just like illusion.

Dark Jester 05-24-2010 08:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth (Post 867709)
Scroll up: Dark Jester found out his local B&M was owned by Dion Giolito and asked him. Apparently, it's pronounced just like illusion.

Yeah, confirmed it with them on Friday. Dion himself wasn't in the store at the time, but the person that runs the shop when he's out confirmed it's just 'Eh Loo-Zee-Own'. (Actually, Might be better like 'Eh-Loo-She-Un')

I'll confirm with Dion himself next time I catch him in store. Will probably be this week sometime. I guess there is a slim change the person he leaves in charge might be clueless. ;)

Kreth 05-24-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 867731)
Yeah, confirmed it with them on Friday. Dion himself wasn't in the store at the time, but the person that runs the shop when he's out confirmed it's just 'Eh Loo-Zee-Own'.

I stand corrected. Illusion (as in optical illusion) is pronounced "ill-oo-jhun". :r

Me fail English? Unpossible. :r
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AvoFiend 05-24-2010 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth (Post 867741)
I stand corrected. Illusion (as in optical illusion) is pronounced "ill-oo-jhun". :r

Me fail English? Unpossible. :r
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+1 for simpsons refference

junkinduck 05-24-2010 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AvoFiend (Post 867571)
Taken from cigar.com:
Fuente - Fuen-Teh
CAO - See Aay Oh
Tatuaje - Tattoo Ahh Hey
5 Vegas - Sinko Vegas
La Vieja Habana - La Vee Aay Ha Habana
Camacho - Kah Ma Cho
Cusano - Ku San Oh
Avo - Ah Vo
Carlos Torano - Carlos Tor Ahn Yo
La Aurora 100 Anos - La Ah-Roar Ah See-En An Yos
Padilla Miami - Pad dee ya Miami
Padron - Pah Drone
Partagas - Par Tah Gus
Romeo y Julieta - Rome-ay-o ee Hoo-lee-eh-tah
Anejo - Ahn-yay-ho
Joya de Nicaragua - Hoy-ah-day-Nicaragua
Ramon Allones - Ramone-ah-yone-ez
Cabaiguan - kah-bei-gWAHN
por larranaga - por la ron ya ga
Palio - Pal-ee-oh
Pepin - Pe-peen
Xicar - Zy-car
Illusione - Eh Loo-Zee-Own-EE
Davidoff - Dah Vid Off

also some .wav files of pronunciation
http://www.mycigarsite.com/subopcion...cion5aeng.html

This is what I had in mind when I posted.

Dark Jester 05-26-2010 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 867731)
Yeah, confirmed it with them on Friday. Dion himself wasn't in the store at the time, but the person that runs the shop when he's out confirmed it's just 'Eh Loo-Zee-Own'. (Actually, Might be better like 'Eh-Loo-She-Un')

I'll confirm with Dion himself next time I catch him in store. Will probably be this week sometime. I guess there is a slim change the person he leaves in charge might be clueless. ;)

So, apparently the stand-in store clerk was mistaken. Talked to Dion himself a bit ago and he said it's "Eh-Loo-She-Own-Ay", kindof with an italian accent on it. From the owner's mouth, that's difinitive enough for me. :) Told him he needs to set the other guy straight. :=:

Kreth 05-26-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 869953)
So, apparently the stand-in store clerk was mistaken. Talked to Dion himself a bit ago and he said it's "Eh-Loo-She-Own-Ay", kindof with an italian accent on it. From the owner's mouth, that's difinitive enough for me. :) Told him he needs to set the other guy straight. :=:

That's what I figured initially, with a name like Giolito. Thanks for following up. :tu
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Blueface 05-26-2010 03:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 869953)
So, apparently the stand-in store clerk was mistaken. Talked to Dion himself a bit ago and he said it's "Eh-Loo-She-Own-Ay", kindof with an italian accent on it. From the owner's mouth, that's difinitive enough for me. :) Told him he needs to set the other guy straight. :=:

I would hope so as far as the Italian accent part.
Illusion in Spanish is spelled the very same way as in English, just pronounced a bit differently.
Illusione as it is spelled for the brand is the Italian version of the word Illusion.

Now let's get back to this link and how badly it pronounces "Hijo de Puta".
I think it is shameful.:r

Dark Jester 05-26-2010 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 870011)
I would hope so as far as the Italian accent part.
Illusion in Spanish is spelled the very same way as in English, just pronounced a bit differently.
Illusione as it is spelled for the brand is the Italian version of the word Illusion.

Now let's get back to this link and how badly it pronounces "Hijo de Puta".
I think it is shameful.:r

My spanish is a bit rusty (meaning it's been like 15 years since my spanish class in High School), but isn't 'Puta' a swear word in spanish? Means something like ***** (Female Reproductive Organ)?

Edit: Nevermind, looked it up on urban dictionary. Still don't know that I want to smoke something called that. ;)

Blueface 05-26-2010 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Jester (Post 870040)
My spanish is a bit rusty (meaning it's been like 15 years since my spanish class in High School), but isn't 'Puta' a swear word in spanish? Means something like ***** (Female Reproductive Organ)?

Edit: Nevermind, looked it up on urban dictionary. Still don't know that I want to smoke something called that. ;)

Me on the other hand, at my age, I would thoroughly enjoy lighting up a good Puta.
OK, perhaps my wife would not agree with that but wishing can be fun.

Puta is not a swear word.
However, calling someone an "Hijo de Puta" will not be readily accepted.
The first two words stands for "son of"
The latter word stands for hard working evening girls.

Dark Jester 05-26-2010 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 870054)
Me on the other hand, at my age, I would thoroughly enjoy lighting up a good Puta.
OK, perhaps my wife would not agree with that but wishing can be fun.

Hahah. I live in Nevada though, so it's legal here. :banger

Agree on the wife thing though. I'm psychic enough to see a severe concussion in my future if I lit up a good Puta. ;)


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