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bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 01:04 PM

I think I f%cked up
 
I quit my job today. I've been working in a high pressure sales job at a lawn care company for the last 4 years and have been fairly successful at it $35-$40k a year. Recently the job duties changed to where we are doing direct door to door cold call sales..which I simply refuse to do. I'm 28 and married with a car payment and mortgage and am now wondering if I screwed up royally looking at the job prospects ahead of me. I have ZERO savings but a fairly large tax return coming down the pipe. Pretty scary and depressing I must say. Anyone got a cigar recommendation for this????:confused:

md4958 02-24-2010 01:06 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
From what youre telling me about your current financial status, I would recommend a cigar you got for free.

Never quit a job until youve got another job lined up.

marge796 02-24-2010 01:11 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 771096)
From what youre telling me about your current financial status, I would recommend a cigar you got for free.

Never quit a job until you've got another job lined up
.

:tpd::tpd:

Subvet642 02-24-2010 01:12 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

floydpink 02-24-2010 01:14 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 771096)
From what youre telling me about your current financial status, I would recommend a cigar you got for free.

Never quit a job until youve got another job lined up.

Sage advice there. I am often asked to do things I don't like or want to do, but never refuse reasonable requests and have gone as far as working phone leads, which I hate, but will do if needed, as well as work holidays.

If they ask me to come in and work in panties and fishnet stockings, I draw the line. Besides that, there is little I won't do, although my pay makes it hard to turn many requests down.

This Christmas, I hugged my daughter as she opened her presents and hurried into work and was recieved by a very grateful boss.

In this work and atmosphere and economy, nobody is hard to replace in a hurry with someone thrilled to do the job.

If this were me, the last thing on my mind would be a cigar unless I had someone to cover my mortgage.

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-24-2010 01:17 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 771104)
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

:tpd:

Scottw 02-24-2010 01:18 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 771104)
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

:tpd::tpd:

CasaDooley 02-24-2010 01:22 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
I hope everything works out well for you Dan.:tu

Jack Straw 02-24-2010 01:24 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
I was laid off at the end of Dec, so I am getting unemployment payments which saved my rear end. Otherwise I would not be able to pay next month's rent, let alone live comfortably. Let me tell you it is completely different looking for a job now than it was when I last did 3 years ago, at least in the areas I'm looking. Then you could get interviews just by writing a good cover letter, now you have to know someone or just plain get lucky. That said you are in sales, so you are probably better at "selling yourself" than I am.

My friend who hated his job did basically the same thing you did a year ago thinking he could line up something within a few months, and he is still looking for work, and living with his parents.

Rough times, hopefully it gets better soon.

Best of luck!

ashtonlady 02-24-2010 01:28 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Yes you did, now what are you going to do about it?

Blindjimme 02-24-2010 01:51 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Go back and talk with your former employer. You got nothing to lose and the value of someone who knows their gig may go in your favor. Best of luck.

bobarian 02-24-2010 02:01 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Smoke something you enjoy. Scary? Yes Depressing? Why? You chose the path, now its time to walk the walk.

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 02:03 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 771104)
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

Done...mission unsuccessful.

Darrell 02-24-2010 02:03 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 771104)
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

:tpd::tpd::tpd::tpd::tpd:

cbsmokin 02-24-2010 02:11 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedingshrimp (Post 771200)
Done...mission unsuccessful.

Go see your #1 competitor.

Scottw 02-24-2010 02:29 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedingshrimp (Post 771200)
Done...mission unsuccessful.

It sucks but it's hard to feel bad for you as you made this bed Dan. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Steve 02-24-2010 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 771216)
Go see your #1 competitor.

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What he said!

MajorCaptSilly 02-24-2010 02:49 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
I'm the top gross profit earner at my place. Not quite top sales but I really focus on margin. I found out that my sales last year actually made up almost 30% of my company's profits and we have 70 employees. With that being said, I'm always looking for ways to get better at my job and ensure job security. I do everything I can to help the rest of the sales staff get better and earn more. I embrace every change that comes even if I'm uncomfortable with it. It's not my company so, I go with the decisions that are handed down to me. It's easy to get a big head and think you're #1 and the company would sink without you. It's better to appreciate the chance you're given (especially in sales) and think about what's best for the company instead of your own wallet and ego. Oh, and I do in-person cold calling every week. I got one of my best accounts that way.

MCS

humidorguy 02-24-2010 02:54 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Dan I'll go against the grain here and say you will probably end up better off.
No job is worth killing yourself with stress over. I have been there and am glad I left when I did and things worked out just fine. But you should have had a job lined up first.. But what the heck you probably won't die from this lesson.

Commander Quan 02-24-2010 02:55 PM

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Well this could either be the best thing you've ever done, or the worst, depending on what you do next. Just because the job market sucks right now doesn't mean there aren't opportunities. Set a goal for yourself, and work like hell till you get there. Good luck.

bobarian 02-24-2010 03:04 PM

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One thing is for sure, dont mope around. Sharpen that resume and pound the pavement. A good salesman can sell anything so think outside the box. Good luck.

Lucky_Hippo 02-24-2010 03:06 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Well.... They call them Life Lessons for a reason. Now's the time to take stock in what's what, and move forward from here. See what options you have available to you and remember that pride doesn't put food in your stomach. If you have to flip burgers untill something better comes along try to remember the fact that better men have probably done worse for less.

Good luck and hopefully it will be a one time oops with little consequences.

Cigar Choice: The best I had in my humidor to make the memory/lesson a keeper.

Neuromancer 02-24-2010 03:11 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 771104)
Swallow your pride, and beg for your job back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedingshrimp (Post 771200)
Done...mission unsuccessful.

The only thing I can offer at this point is "good luck"...if nothing else, you can probably drive a taxi...I used to do that between computer contracts when times were tough...

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 03:18 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Put in about 30 resumes today so far! A momentary lapse in reason, and poor judgment on my part however is agreed.

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 03:19 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
One thing I feel blessed with is that my wife has a good job and we have no kids. We didn't reach out of our range with our home either.

Silound 02-24-2010 03:21 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
The fairest advice I can offer is what was already said: Don't quit unless you have something else lined up.


Don't let people here scare you, the job market is not as bad as it seems. unemployment is high, but if you look at the breakdowns, there's no shortage of jobs paying 8-12 $/hr (essentially college student type jobs) that you can pick up to fill some gaps. People are unwilling to take them for some reason. You can make 30k+ a year working two part timers or working as a server at a decent restaurant.

There's plenty of money to be made out there, most people don't know where to look or how.


General tip for anyone who may be interested: Brinker Corporation pays assistant managers at Chili's anywhere from 35-55k a year depending on the store location and how it performs. I know several people who got jobs as waiters (you can make good money doing that if you're good and work hard) with Chili's and became managers after less than 2 years because they had the will and ethic to work for it. It's a job, but it pays well.

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 03:25 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound (Post 771359)
The fairest advice I can offer is what was already said: Don't quit unless you have something else lined up.


Don't let people here scare you, the job market is not as bad as it seems. unemployment is high, but if you look at the breakdowns, there's no shortage of jobs paying 8-12 $/hr (essentially college student type jobs) that you can pick up to fill some gaps. People are unwilling to take them for some reason. You can make 30k+ a year working two part timers or working as a server at a decent restaurant.

There's plenty of money to be made out there, most people don't know where to look or how.


General tip for anyone who may be interested: Brinker Corporation pays assistant managers at Chili's anywhere from 35-55k a year depending on the store location and how it performs. I know several people who got jobs as waiters (you can make good money doing that if you're good and work hard) with Chili's and became managers after less than 2 years because they had the will and ethic to work for it. It's a job, but it pays well.

Thanks! Checked the website, nothing in my area but I signed up for notification if there is an opening. I do have management background.

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 03:27 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Anyone need a freelance cigar tester? I will test your Arganese, Gurkha, and bundle 'gars to ensure safety for human consumption!!!

Mugen910 02-24-2010 03:30 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound (Post 771359)
The fairest advice I can offer is what was already said: Don't quit unless you have something else lined up.


Don't let people here scare you, the job market is not as bad as it seems. unemployment is high, but if you look at the breakdowns, there's no shortage of jobs paying 8-12 $/hr (essentially college student type jobs) that you can pick up to fill some gaps. People are unwilling to take them for some reason. You can make 30k+ a year working two part timers or working as a server at a decent restaurant.

There's plenty of money to be made out there, most people don't know where to look or how.


General tip for anyone who may be interested: Brinker Corporation pays assistant managers at Chili's anywhere from 35-55k a year depending on the store location and how it performs. I know several people who got jobs as waiters (you can make good money doing that if you're good and work hard) with Chili's and became managers after less than 2 years because they had the will and ethic to work for it. It's a job, but it pays well.



:tu It all depends on what type of job you are willing to take and paycut if needed.

Silound 02-24-2010 03:35 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedingshrimp (Post 771373)
Thanks! Checked the website, nothing in my area but I signed up for notification if there is an opening. I do have management background.

Check out Lowes then as well. Around here, they're hiring people with 2+ years of management experience. Last I checked, they pay 50-60k a year for store mangers.

Come think of it, I'd check Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and any other large store.

captain53 02-24-2010 04:05 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 771096)
From what youre telling me about your current financial status, I would recommend a cigar you got for free.

Never quit a job until youve got another job lined up.

:tpd::tpd::tpd::tpd:

junkinduck 02-24-2010 05:39 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Several sucessful people I know did what you have done either by there choice or the bosses. Some of those people are now 6figure consultants. At least you have a stream of income in the house and no little mouths to feed. Find something your are pasionate about and life will be much more rewarding. I count myself as being lucky in this respect. Other advice from one of my stints of unemployment. Cancel all things not necessary like cell phone, cable, and if your car payment straps you sell it. Be proactive and no reactive. For sale signs are cheep and they will make more tomorrow.
My prayers will be with you.
Don't let em get you down.

cigar, get used to somthing cheep and save the good one to celibrate your success.

blugill 02-24-2010 06:34 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
How about taking the opportunity that you created and go back to school to learn to do something you really want to do.

What's done is done now and no sense crying over it. A job will be hard to come by so educate yourself with all of that new found time on your hands. By the time you are out of school perhaps the job market will pick back up again!

The Postman 02-24-2010 08:17 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Good Luck brother, I commend you for having the nerve to step out and now you have the chance to try something different. Sure, it may not be easy for a while, but at least your needs are being met in the short term.

skyhigh340 02-24-2010 08:22 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 771107)
Sage advice there. I am often asked to do things I don't like or want to do, but never refuse reasonable requests and have gone as far as working phone leads, which I hate, but will do if needed, as well as work holidays.

If they ask me to come in and work in panties and fishnet stockings, I draw the line. Besides that, there is little I won't do, although my pay makes it hard to turn many requests down.

This Christmas, I hugged my daughter as she opened her presents and hurried into work and was recieved by a very grateful boss.

In this work and atmosphere and economy, nobody is hard to replace in a hurry with someone thrilled to do the job.

If this were me, the last thing on my mind would be a cigar unless I had someone to cover my mortgage.

Now that was a mental pic I didn't need!:r

On a serious note...If you think it was a mistake leaving it probably was...I would think about asking for your job back. If that works I would keep doing the job while I looked for another.

bleedingshrimp 02-24-2010 09:13 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Well, the bridge has been burnt, the boat has sailed, and the shore is far behind me. I decided on a Monte No.4, the first cigar of my only unopened box. I found it fitting, new beginnings and all. Thanks for the kind words and the kicks in the ass, both were needed and well appreciated.

Starscream 02-25-2010 06:45 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by humidorguy (Post 771303)
Dan I'll go against the grain here and say you will probably end up better off.
No job is worth killing yourself with stress over. I have been there and am glad I left when I did and things worked out just fine. But you should have had a job lined up first.. But what the heck you probably won't die from this lesson.

:tpd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 771307)
Well this could either be the best thing you've ever done, or the worst, depending on what you do next. Just because the job market sucks right now doesn't mean there aren't opportunities. Set a goal for yourself, and work like hell till you get there. Good luck.

:tpd:

I probably wouldn't have quit, but me going door to door is one of those things that I just am not cut out to do either. I absolutely hate doing that kind of work. Hope you find something that is satisfying to you very soon.

ScottishSmoker 02-26-2010 11:50 AM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
This is going too sound repetitive, but, it is never wise too leave a job without something new on the horizon...however, that being said, anyone willing too look for a job right now, regardless the pride/pay cuts involved, are able too find them. Another place too look, and if you are willing too become friends with the phone...I made six-figures selling Men's Clothing for Neiman Marcus...however, at the time, the economy was in a better place, in fact the recession was still months away when I left too move on. I started out at your basic department stores, got into fashion, and was recruited up the ladder, so to say, by Neiman Marcus. Even at a Macy's, in a halfway decent market, working on commission, taking care of every whim your customers have, you could easily make $40k again....even more. The biggest trick though, when on straight commission, budgeting for the lean months like February, July, and October, is very key...you may make $7k a week in December...but you most likely won't in February...

thebiglebowski 02-26-2010 05:01 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
good luck, man. from someone who was the victim of a workforce reduction last year, i hope you find something soon!

ucla695 02-26-2010 05:16 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Hey Dan, hang in there. Although this ship might have sailed, there are others in the harbor and those that will come in that will carry you further than the one you just got off. Patience and Persistence are key.

acruce 02-26-2010 05:27 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
If It's the company I think you are talking about I would try an get into production side of the business. In My opinion that side is more stable and less stress.

nater 02-26-2010 06:43 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Like others have said, not the best move to quit before you had something else, but it sounds like living expenses are covered via the wife, and there is work out there if you are willing to do something that is slightly less ideal

nater 02-26-2010 07:20 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Like others have said, not the best move to quit before you had something else, but it sounds like living expenses are covered via the wife, and there is work out there if you are willing to do something that is slightly less ideal

RGD. 02-26-2010 08:09 PM

Re: I think I f%cked up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound (Post 771401)
Check out Lowes then as well. Around here, they're hiring people with 2+ years of management experience. Last I checked, they pay 50-60k a year for store mangers.

Come think of it, I'd check Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and any other large store.

Yeah - No. I checked out Lowes last fall and during my interview they told me that the only person in the store that made $20 bucks an hour was the store manager. They wanted me to head up the plumbing department for $12 an hour. I said thanks - no thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 772988)
:tpd:


:tpd:

I probably wouldn't have quit, but me going door to door is one of those things that I just am not cut out to do either. I absolutely hate doing that kind of work. Hope you find something that is satisfying to you very soon.

:tpd: I would quit in a heart beat if I was asked to do door to door. Did that crap back in college. Some of us just are not cut out for sales.

Sure, it's always best to have a job before you quit - but sometimes it just does not happen. Granted it was a better time for jobs - but years ago I did the same exact thing - and 5 days later had a new job , higher pay - better working conditions. So you just never know. Keep grinding away on applications and something will turn up. Sort term - the census is hiring at up to $20 an hour depending on the area.

Best of luck to you.

Ron


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