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RightAJ 02-08-2010 08:59 AM

Plume!
 
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Found this at my favorite B&M at home... no THAT is some pretty plume :ss

aj

barbourjay 02-08-2010 09:00 AM

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if by plume you mean mold then yes, that is a lot of pretty mold.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:03 AM

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As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

RightAJ 02-08-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by barbourjay (Post 751792)
if by plume you mean mold then yes, that is a lot of pretty mold.

I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

md4958 02-08-2010 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 751797)
As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

:tpd:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751800)
I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

maybe its dust then

pnoon 02-08-2010 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751800)
I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.

NCRadioMan 02-08-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 751802)
It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.

:tpd: That's exactly what it is. We had the same problem in the shop I work in for a short time.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:15 AM

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I am all ears for a review tho...

Texan in Mexico 02-08-2010 09:16 AM

You're a smart man...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 751802)
It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.

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RightAJ 02-08-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 751807)
:tpd: That's exactly what it is. We had the same problem in the shop I work in for a short time.

I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

Darrell 02-08-2010 09:17 AM

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Tell him to stop using tap water in his humidifiers.

md4958 02-08-2010 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751813)
I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:24 AM

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Maybe better pictures would help settle the matter...

SilverFox 02-08-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 751817)
You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

:tpd:

By the way it isn't plume.

I don't care how the guy keeps his humi.

Bands don't plume, here is the one and only time I was relatively sure I had it and that is after several thousand cigars.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1265646536

Even then I was not 100% convinced..............smoked great though

RightAJ 02-08-2010 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 751817)
You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

I have seen plume before, though not to this extent. The box is pretty old so I was assuming that it was (knowing that the owner takes meticulous care of his stock and uses distilled water).

Not trying to argue here...

aj

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 751821)
:tpd:


Bands don't plume

Maybe it is an optical conclusion... i.e. it was concluded that is was plume...

GKitty 02-08-2010 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 751797)
As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

This has always been one of the things I look at when the question of plume arises. There's a fine even coat over the whole stick including the band, which leads me to believe the source of whatever crystals are on it came from somewhere other than the wrapper.

I appreciate the picture and the input from the FOGs. Next time I think about tap water vs distilled water, I'll remember these pictures.

md4958 02-08-2010 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751800)
I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751813)
I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

Quote:

Originally Posted by RightAJ (Post 751822)
I have seen plume before, though not to this extent. The box is pretty old so I was assuming that it was (knowing that the owner takes meticulous care of his stock and uses distilled water).

Not trying to argue here...

aj

Sounds like you are actually.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:38 AM

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Plume Pandemonium 2010
AJ "The Philly Kid" Vs "Italian" MoeD
2 men enter 1 man leaves

hotreds 02-08-2010 09:42 AM

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No! Sorry- the give away is, as was mentioned, the bands. They won't have plume on them! It does actually look more like dust or water impurities. It would be interesting to take a magnifying glass to that ceegar to see the white stuff up close. But, I'm afraid I'd hafta agree with those that say it isn't plume. Also don't know if five years is long enough for plume to develop. It's a veeeeery sloooow process.

poker 02-08-2010 09:44 AM

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Looking at the picture provided, its not plume. Plume is a naturally occuring by-product of long-term cigar aging. As the cigar's naturally present oils are exuded through the wrapper and dry forming crystals. There is no way it can form on the paper cigar band.

GKitty 02-08-2010 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 751843)
Plume Pandemonium 2010
AJ "The Philly Kid" Vs "Italian" MoeD
2 men enter 1 man leaves

:r Drama king!

And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

vicvitola 02-08-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 751861)
:r Drama king!

And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

pnoon 02-08-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vicvitola (Post 751871)
I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

:r
Now that is funny!

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vicvitola (Post 751871)
I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

You're playing with fire son...

hotreds 02-08-2010 09:56 AM

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Actually, it's "Mortadella Moe."

TripleF 02-08-2010 10:00 AM

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And just when I thought I knew the difference between mold and plume.....


Now I clearly have no clue.

Oh btw, NO I'm not being a wise A$$.......

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 10:00 AM

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I thought it was "Marinara Moe"

RevSmoke 02-08-2010 10:05 AM

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AJ, I gotta say my friend, I have never - in almost 30 years - never seen plume on a band. That's the first hint that something is amiss. While it may not be mold, it isn't plume. If it looks crystilline under a magnifying glass, then there is probably something in the humidification system.

md4958 02-08-2010 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 751861)
And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicvitola (Post 751871)
I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 751881)
Actually, it's "Mortadella Moe."

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 751889)
I thought it was "Marinara Moe"

Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

Darrell 02-08-2010 10:07 AM

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I suppose you think sandwiches plume as well?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...y-sandwich.jpg

:D

BC-Axeman 02-08-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 751899)
I suppose you think sandwiches plume as well?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...y-sandwich.jpg

:D

Mmmmmm:dr
Blue Cheese Sandwich.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 751898)
Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

I think Rob looks good in a wig... Now his sister? Here teeth are so yellow she could butter a whole loaf of bread...

replicant_argent 02-08-2010 10:35 AM

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If it looks like stripper glitter... you got the good stuff.
If you don't recognize stripper glitter, get thee to the club to research properly.
If it looks like dust, quit watching the Golden Girls reruns and thinking dust or mold is sexy. (See the Hog for Sexy Prune-like Bea Arthur "sexy-time" verification).

vicvitola 02-08-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 751898)
Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

Moe, I think the wig your old lady wears, the one Ape's old lady wears and the entirely different one my sister wears has you confused. All those wigs...I can see how it could happen.

Emjaysmash 02-08-2010 12:13 PM

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Was the cigar expensive? i hope you write a review of it; i've never seen it before.

SmokinApe 02-08-2010 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vicvitola (Post 751983)
Moe, I think the wig your old lady wears, the one Ape's old lady wears and the entirely different one my sister wears has you confused. All those wigs...I can see how it could happen.


No confusing those teeth, I was like AJ the first time I saw them... I thought it was PLUME!

Sauer Grapes 02-08-2010 12:18 PM

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As Pete said, plume will look like stripper glitter. Hard to see sometimes if it's not in the right light, even hard to photograph. Plume never looks dust like or white, it is just crystalline and clear-ish.

vicvitola 02-08-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 752056)
No confusing those teeth, I was like AJ the first time I saw them... I thought it was PLUME!

How well can you know teeth? There are so few in your geographic area.:r

NCRadioMan 02-08-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 752060)
Plume never looks dust like or white, it is just crystalline and clear-ish.

It is white and/or dust like. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...0005#post80005

issues 02-08-2010 12:54 PM

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Since we're on he subject...

Here's a cigar I've been keeping for the past 4 years that I believe is showing signs of plume:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...IMG_0143-1.jpg

Here's the celo showing signs of yellowing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Img_0148-1.jpg

Does this look right?

Sauer Grapes 02-08-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 752073)

Never in my experience. Mine looked just like Moki's Opus in the picture (the white spots only look that way when photographed as they are just the light reflecting off of the crystals. They were clear crystals and only the ones with light reflecting off of them showed up in pictures and looked just like that. Never looked white or dust like to the eye.

poker 02-08-2010 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 752053)
Was the cigar expensive? i hope you write a review of it; i've never seen it before.

Joya de Nicaragua Gran Reserva


http://www.bigsmokecigars.com/Joya-d...va-cigars.html

marge796 02-08-2010 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 751843)
Plume Pandemonium 2010
AJ "The Philly Kid" Vs "Italian" MoeD
2 men enter 1 man leaves


Lets get ready to rumble!!!


:r


Chris.....

Sauer Grapes 02-08-2010 01:06 PM

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http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/971/img2848bb3.jpg

You can see the "white" spots that are the few crystals that are reflecting the light at that angle. The cigar was "covered" in plume. I wish I could find a better picture, but that's all I have. Hopefully the pic works, as it took a while to pull up on my computer.

UPHOTO 02-08-2010 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 752133)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/971/img2848bb3.jpg

You can see the "white" spots that are the few crystals that are reflecting the light at that angle. The cigar was "covered" in plume. I wish I could find a better picture, but that's all I have. Hopefully the pic works, as it took a while to pull up on my computer.

Sorry but that isn't Plume either.


That is ACTUAL stripper glitter!!!!

NCRadioMan 02-08-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 752114)
Never looked white or dust like to the eye.

I have seen many that did and smoked a few.

Sauer Grapes 02-08-2010 01:18 PM

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It's possible I've just never seen it like that. All the plume I've seen has looked similar.

issues 02-08-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 752151)
It's possible I've just never seen it like that. All the plume I've seen has looked similar.

So what mine has isn't plume?

It doesn't look at all like mold and I doubt it is dust as it has been in the celo and kept in a humidor with an rh that has never dipped below 65 or above 72.

Sauer Grapes 02-08-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by issues (Post 752153)
So what mine has isn't plume?

It doesn't look at all like mold and I doubt it is dust as it has been in the celo and kept in a humidor with an rh that has never dipped below 65 or above 72.

Dunno. I wouldn't call it plume, but that doesn't mean it isn't.


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