Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 

Take this test.

http://www.lindsayheller.com/

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Before you ask folks to click on a link that appears to be non-cigar related, you might want to explain what the site is. :2

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This title is a little misleading. Knowing a lot about cigars as a cigar smoker versus knowing a lot about the history of cigars and raising tobacco are very different things. :2

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oh oh k, I didn't mean to upset anyone. She is a Cigar seller in NYC and its a contest on Cigar history.

Sorry again :confused:

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hey, I like that blog, there is some good information there. Thanks for the link FriendlyMan.

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No one is upset.

You are a newer member with very little involvement here. You have posted a link that is unrelated to the topic of cigars. It is understandable that the membership should be leery.

In retrospect, it might have been helpful to have posted this info in the first post.

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I have to confess I'm an old friend with to little time. I'm Friendlyfire from the clubstogie days. I know I should should stop by and say hello more often. But I allways send new smokers that I meet at the cigar lounge here. So I didt completly for get about you guys.

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I do remember you from CS.

However, my earlier post was made with the electronic safety of the CA membership in mind.

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And it's much appreciated. :tu Peter's like the guy who passes out condoms at the health department.

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Ooh...ooh....I'll take three! :D

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Sorry, Tom. I'm all out of the small ones. :D

OUCH! :r
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If you're out of small ones then I guess you don't have any for yourself either Peter...:)

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Peter doesn't need any, as someone has taken his little blue pills away :r

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Theres a reason his name is Peter :D

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I'll save folks the trouble of going to the link:

1) Many of you know I’m a BIG fan of corojo wrappers on my cigars, so with that being said, why is corojo grown under cheesecloth? Also, once past the seedling stage what other purpose does the cheesecloth serve in the tobacco’s growth?

2) Before cigars go into their molds prior to applying the wrapper, there is a specific bunching method used which is what inevitably defines the rolling technique for the cigar. In order of least complex to most complex, name the four major techniques.

3) Who is credited with being Europe’s first cigar roller and in what year did he claim to learn to properly roll a cigar from the Indians?

4) What major American political figure argued against a tobacco tax in 1794 because it would affect the poor the most? He called tobacco an “innocent gratification” and labeled it as something that should be enjoyed by those who wished to smoke.

5) What does the word cohiba mean in English and what is the story behind this famed Cuban brand?

6) Sir Winston Churchill has been in cigar news lately since a half-smoked cigar of his was just auctioned off for $7,000.00. He is an ironic historical figure and was known by all to be a cigar lover, but he was very careless with his smokes allowing them to often go out. Before re-lighting he would chew the ends mercilessly, but he did keep a candle around to re-light the sticks, which many times caused them to disintegrate. With that being said, Churchill actually invented a special protective paper for the foot of his cigars so he could still smoke them. What did he call this special paper??

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Finger Cots? :D

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Pnoon, the CA prophylactic http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs10/i/20...nillemotes.gif :banger

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This is rather troubling Tom......
Ar you familiar with Cerberus? The three headed dog? :r

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Tom's an aardvark?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s112and113.jpg

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Nice review.:tu

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Back on topic: I don't know any of the answers to these questions. I'd love to know the answers, but understand how posting them in open forum could be detrimental to someone's entry into the contest. Activate Google!

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:confused:

Have you been drinking again Greg?

:r

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Nope, just tongue in cheek.:tu

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I hope this is just a typing error. Iconic, perhaps?

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Maybe I can borrow a couple of your sponges to give to my gal-pal then, Peter?

:fu :r

We are related, Tim. ;)

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Mark, this made me choke I laughed so hard.


:l


Chris.....

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Okay, okay, okay...calm down.

Yes, the link to my homepage is of course misleading, but it's obvious many of you don't know me.

I am a professional tobacconist based out of New York City--the only female here!--where I do a lot of retail, marketing, events, etc. I've been featured and have written for a number of national and international cigar magazines as well as on the world wide web. Another love of mine in the tobacco industry is holding and hosting events, and I do that around the globe as well.

My main motive for holding cigar trivia contests is to get people who claim to love cigars to enhance their knowledge. If cigar smoking is something someone really enjoys it will only make their experiences better if they're more knowledgeable about what some say is a downright passion. The questions this time around were intentionally difficult because of the cigar sampler that will be given as the prize: all top-notch smokes, many of which are not available everywhere & one of which isn't even on the market and was given to me by the maker (Pepin).

So if you're interested go ahead and do a bit of research and give it a shot because you have nothing to lose.

Thanks,

Lindsay M. Heller
www.lindsayheller.com
@TheCigarChick on Twitter

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Who is not calm? :confused:

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:tpd:
WTF!

Lindsay - If you had bothered to read the thread closely you would have seen this earlier post
As an administrator here, I take my responsibility seriously. And that includes protecting the membership from potentially harmful links.

But I do have one question for you. You stated in your post that "many of you don't know me". Can you tell me who here does? Just wondering.

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I'm guessing Lindsay :r

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Ok, I don't know her personelly but I do know about her. She is very well known in the Cigar industry in NYC and other places. I have been following her on twitter and was thinking this contest might interest someone. I think if we can have her on here it would be great because she can bring a lot with her. The thing is she dosn't know who I am and who posted her blog on here. I'm wondering who told here to come on here and respond.
I think the calm down thing was more like a, ok, I'm stepping in to clear things up no need to worry. She has no clue what this place is like. If the person who asked her to sign up can explain to her what a great place this is maybe sh'll be a regular?

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That much is obvious.

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Well this thread is taking some odd turns....

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:r:r

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Oh, hell, I'll take a stab:

1. Cheesecloth is used to shade tobacco plants from harsh sun rays. Once harvested, cheesecloth is dropped and re-used as side-wall frame in next harvest. Corojo wrapper is tied to the cheesecloth frame to ensure it grows upright (and stronger).


2. Bunching methods. I thought there are 5, actually, any reason she is missing one? Anyway... In order of least complex to most complex:

Lieberman bunch, bunching technique used for machine rolled cigars
Book bunch
Accordion bunch
Entubado bunch, aka Entubar

There is also a Figurado (Hybrid) bunch - complexity wise on Entubado level and probably even more so, very intolerant to mistakes while bunching. Not sure why she has not included this method in her question unless she does not consider Lieberman bunch a "method".

3. Sir Walter Raleigh?

4. Alexander Hamilton's proposed tax package of 1794.

5. Cohiba is Taino Indians' word for tobacco plant. This is where I disagreed with a recent thread's premise and stated then and stating now that Cohiba, as a BRAND, was officially introduced in 1982, band, box and all.

6. Bellybando.

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For #3 I got Rodrigo de Jerez in 1492. The person and the date were needed.

#4 is James Madison because it's the person whom argued against the proposal.

I got the rest of the answers pretty much the same as you though Greg.
Doesn't matter though because the answers needed to be emailed by 11AM EST to count. A few of those questions are very tricky. It was kinda fun searching for answers though and I think that was the entire point.

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Hmmm... Rodrigo de Jerez was the first to TASTE tobacco in the New World, I thought the question was about the first ROLLER to introduce cigars to Europe?

Yep, I didn't read the question right, Madison is the one who opposed the tax, Hamilton introduced it.

Wasn't trying to win anything, just found the whole thing hilarious and same as someone above, questioned how any of this would make anyone enjoy cigars more. Didn't even go to the link provided.

I still find it strange that one bunching method didn't even make her list and it is an important one, IMO, as all machine made cigars, and there is a good number of them out there, are made with it. Do you know which 4 out of 5 the quiz expected?

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I came across both Jerez and Raleigh several places in tobacco history. In nearly every instance Jerez was the first to smoke tobacco and Raleigh introduced it to the Queen among other things. I never found anyone specifically credited for rolling properly cigar's but I assumed it must be Jerez since that is indeed what he was smoking. He was also arrested and held for seven years by the inquisition so he must have learned to roll them when he learned to smoke them. Whatever...

I also came across 5 rolling methods but the hybrid/figurado method was always "another" method whereas the first four are referred to as "the" rolling methods. I included the 5th one in my answer anyway.

It was fun searching for the answers and I hop to see thecigarchick's interpretation of the right answers soon.

By the way Greg, Raleigh was awesome, sort of.

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I still have no idea what any of this have to do with smoking cigars. Very few wine drinkers know much about wine history, hell, even professional writers know little, and yet it doesn't stop anyone from enjoying cigars.

A quiz better tuned to cigar smokers would be like this:

1. Who was the good for nothing actor idiot to use children as ruse to raise taxes on tobacco products sold in Kalifornia in late 1990s? And where did the money go?

2. When Federal level SCHIP tax kicked in last year, similar to the one passed in Kalifornia in the '90s, why wasn't similar Kalifornia tax repealed? Are Kalifornia kids getting double the benefit now with 2 taxes "helping them out"? Where does the money go in both cases?

3. When marijuana growing and sales are legally approved in Kalifornia, what odds are there that someone in Sacramento's "think tank" (yeah, I know, a huge stretch of imagination) will find a way to tie in sale of tobacco products to marijuana sales to raise taxes on tobacco even higher? 5-1? 10-1? 50-1?

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Sure, you can enjoy anything ignorantly, but anybody that cares enough about a topic to join a forum centered around it (ie: every inmate here) is probably going to have enough passion about that topic to want to learn some history. Cigars have a long and rich history, which is in and of its self interesting, and while the quiz in the OP may not be much of anything, you seem to be suggesting that knowledge of cigar history is not related to cigar smoking. I find that cigar history and the general techniques of storage, smoking etc that one finds on forums like this adds to my enjoyment of cigars immensely:2

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How does knowing about tobacco and alcohol tax proposal of 1794 make you enjoy cigars more? Or what Churchill called his "paper" trick given the fact that no one else has used it since? Do you know what size and shape was it and HOW it was used meaning just how it fit over a cigar? What kind of paper used? Does the creator of the quiz?

Just curious.

Like I said, even really serious wine drinkers won't pass a well put together wine history quiz, I'd bet 90% fail even on professional level, and yet I have never heard anyone tell me that this lack of wine history knowledge makes them enjoy wine less. I'll even state that 90% of so called "sommeliers" in restaurants know very little about wine based on my experience and interacting with them. Yet I am sure they do enjoy wines tremendously.

It would make more sense if cigar smokers could ID cigar components in a blind taste. THAT is the true enjoyment of cigars, IMO, and true knowledge of a product.

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Again, I wasn't defending the OP, there is a difference between history and trivia. The OP was really just a list of banal trivia, and the answers as such wouldn't help me enjoy cigars more, but it seems like you're saying that knowledge of cigar history doesn't add to the enjoyment of cigars. IMO, studying cigar history gives one a sense of what has come before, and adds to the enjoyment of cigars by giving one an appreciation of the craftsmanship and long work that goes into the making of this subtle thing that is a cigar. Call it food for thought as you savor your smoke. I agree that people should develop their palates, and blind taste tests are extremely fun to participate in and, I think, are essential for any serious cigar smoker's development as a connaisseur. But I would defend the value of history to cigar smoker's enjoyment of the hobby as well.

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We seem to be talking apples and oranges :-(

I am not against historical trivia, been reading all sorts of cigar history for years (decades, actually) now. Still, what does knowing that Churchill came up with a "paper holder" without MORE info on it do for anyone's cigar enjoyment, especially since no one has used the method since. And if I hand you a cigar, will you be able to tell me what rolling method has been used (save for the obvious figurado and machine made cigars)? That's my point, the quiz didn't do much in terms of educating anyone on much. If this is how the author of the quiz is "educating" people, then I can tell she is not making much progress. IMHO, of course, and you mileage will vary.

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I think that means we agree then:tu

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Possibly one of the most entertaining threads I've been through in a while, and unintentionally so! Bravo.

I am surprised that the Admiral has not applied the Monkey Balm yet!
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I am the kinder, gentler Admiral now.



;) :r

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Hey guys you might want to check her site out again, She posted something new on there that might interest you more.

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And what might that be?

Please provide more information to the members here so that they can choose to go there or not.