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mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 09:55 AM

Requesting Fla. Law Advice Help!
 
So... basically I got a ticket (driving the wrong way in a one way) in late November, I feel like the ticket was bs and set up a court date to contest it on February 17th. Everything was going well except for the fact that I got another ticket last night. (rolling through a blinking stop light..)

What I am asking is.. Can anyone can steer me in the right direction in regards to the best course of action I should take at this point.

adampc22 01-21-2010 09:57 AM

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follow the laws of the road so u dont get tickets lol

G G 01-21-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by adampc22 (Post 728301)
follow the laws of the road so u dont get tickets lol

I wasn't gonna say it, but I knew someone would.:tu

seriously you prolly should just pay the tickets.

adampc22 01-21-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ggainey (Post 728305)
I wasn't gonna say it, but I knew someone would.:tu

seriously you prolly should just pay the tickets.

yeh i charge for my legal advice tho so thats 500 usd please :D

Giant & 49er Fan 01-21-2010 10:03 AM

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I always say, "At least you didn't get a DUI!" If you end up paying the fine you can take drivers class to keep the points off your record for one of the infractions. Good Luck bro!

SmokeyJoe 01-21-2010 10:05 AM

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I would recommend getting a good lawyer.

May cost a little more upfront, but it tends to save on points on your license and any associated insurance costs. My :2

mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by adampc22 (Post 728301)
follow the laws of the road so u dont get tickets lol

if I wanted this response I would have told my dad... which I haven't yet...

icehog3 01-21-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728346)
if I wanted this response I would have told my dad... which I haven't yet...

Tell your Dad. :2

G G 01-21-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 728353)
Tell your Dad. :2

:r

MedicCook 01-21-2010 10:21 AM

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Why were you driving the wrong way down a 1-way street?

mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 10:28 AM

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the sign was placed in such a way that it was unclear there were also cars parked on the side that was in the wrong direction. These two infractions are my first ever.

jmsremax 01-21-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728294)
So... basically I got a ticket (driving the wrong way in a one way) in late November, I feel like the ticket was bs and set up a court date to contest it on February 17th. Everything was going well except for the fact that I got another ticket last night. (rolling through a blinking stop light..)

So you say it isn't your fault for driving the wrong way down a one way street? I highly doubt you can win that argument in court. I'd say pay the ticket and move on. The money you will spend for a lawyer isn't worth in IMO.

You will have a harder time winning over a judge with two tickets within the last 2 months. good luck

newcigarz 01-21-2010 10:37 AM

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I would also look into an online traffic school to save from getting the points on your license.

mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jmsremax (Post 728362)
So you say it isn't your fault for driving the wrong way down a one way street? I highly doubt you can win that argument in court. I'd say pay the ticket and move on. The money you will spend for a lawyer isn't worth in IMO.

You will have a harder time winning over a judge with two tickets within the last 2 months. good luck

im not going to win that is certain, but i may be able to get the points of my license for that infraction if i plead in court, but then again what do i know.

Knip23 01-21-2010 10:44 AM

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easist way to get points off your license is DUI school Defensive Driving, Drivers ED, Evasive (somthing like that) Driveing school. Then turn them into your local DMV or DPS, and insurance company. :)

Footbag 01-21-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728372)
im not going to win that is certain, but i may be able to get the points of my license for that infraction if i plead in court, but then again what do i know.

You may be able to politely call the officer and explain your situation. Let him know you aren't malicious and it truly was an accident. If the signs weren't properly marked, you may have a chance in court, but it would be much easier if the officer would be willing to make some sort of concession.

Remember to be extremely polite, you are asking him for a big favor and he holds all of the cards. You can suggest that you don't mind the fine, but don't want the points. Or the other way around if it helps.

ucubed 01-21-2010 10:47 AM

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To be honest I think you could argue the wrong way ticket based upon the fact you said you saw cars parked in a certain direction. Also, in Gainesville the one way signs are placed in hard to see places. The rolling stop might be a different story, however if you get a lawyer they could probably do it for you... I have a friend who's parents got him a lawyer for EVERY speeding ticket he has gotten and has gotten them wiped clean

marge796 01-21-2010 10:48 AM

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First off, get an attorney and petition the courts for a diversion. But, with the second ticket I don't know if you would qualify for a program like this. :2


Good luck!


Chris.....

KidRock 01-21-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by marge796 (Post 728381)
First off, get an attorney and petition the courts for a diversion. But, with the second ticket I don't know if you would qualify for a program like this. :2


Good luck!


Chris.....

I did this but I went the extra mile when I got a speeding ticket. I found the absolute best lawyer I could find. I hired the former P.A. of the county where I got pulled over. It solved all my problems very quickly and came with a great result.

mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Footbag (Post 728379)
You may be able to politely call the officer and explain your situation. Let him know you aren't malicious and it truly was an accident. If the signs weren't properly marked, you may have a chance in court, but it would be much easier if the officer would be willing to make some sort of concession.

Remember to be extremely polite, you are asking him for a big favor and he holds all of the cards. You can suggest that you don't mind the fine, but don't want the points. Or the other way around if it helps.

thanks this is helpful, I will definitely try to reach out to the officer sometime soon, and kevin i will have to look into a gainesville traffic attorney before the end of the month

adampc22 01-21-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728346)
if I wanted this response I would have told my dad... which I haven't yet...

its ok i wont take my belt to ya

Blueface 01-21-2010 11:27 AM

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You are in Boca?
Tons of attorneys advertising.
In fact, if you haven't gotten it already, just by virtue of your summons, you should have gotten swamped with mailers from attorneys offering to get you off for as little as $75.
If you haven't gotten them, guess what, your dad already knows 'cause he has them piled up and waiting to nail you with them. Come clean to him.

While sad and not proud of it, I have gotten my kids out of many violations in Florida via attorneys. I did it as although not proud, it saved me tons on insurance. You can generally end up paying the fine, court costs and no points or record on your license. In turn, doesn't affect your rates for insurance.

In Florida, you can also elect to pay the fine and go to traffic school, which you can do online, and get no points as result. However, you can only do school five times.

Also, the issue of the second ticket and an attorney will be likely predicated on what happens with the first. If you are convicted on the first, gets much harder to argue on your behalf that you were clean and made a one time mistake on the second. One of my kids had two concurrent and the only reason the second one got dismissed was due to no record of the first.

All that aside, do as I told my kids.
I don't get any tickets.
I wonder why?

St. Lou Stu 01-21-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 728430)
you should have gotten swamped with mailers from attorneys offering to get you off for as little as $75.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, THAT'S what they meant?:r

Volt 01-21-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Knip23 (Post 728376)
easist way to get points off your license is DUI school Defensive Driving, Drivers ED, Evasive (somthing like that) Driveing school. Then turn them into your local DMV or DPS, and insurance company. :)


Ditto. In VA you can even go as high as +5 points on your driving record by taking a defensive drivers ed course, etc. If awarded negative points in court, they come of the positive points first.

Kinda of a short time frame but getting one in prior to the court couldn't hurt. Even going to court sans lawyer and asking the judge for mercy cost nothing but time off. Offer to take a course. While not cheap, if it keeps the points down and maybe the insurance, not a bad thing.

Neuromancer 01-21-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728294)
So... basically I got a ticket (driving the wrong way in a one way) in late November, I feel like the ticket was bs and set up a court date to contest it on February 17th. Everything was going well except for the fact that I got another ticket last night. (rolling through a blinking stop light..)

What I am asking is.. Can anyone can steer me in the right direction in regards to the best course of action I should take at this point.

Down here in South Florida you can get a lawyer to get you off both tickets (maybe)...you end up paying court costs but get no points...dunno if he can get you off two at once though...it's the old boy network...lawyer gets paid, judges & cops earn their keep...everybody gets paid off and you save from your insurance going up...or you can go to a class for one of the tickets...usually it's one day and the same cost as the ticket but again, no points...you should be able to take the class for one and have the lawyer get you out of the other one...constesting it yourself in court is a real bad idea down here...

SSatVT 01-21-2010 07:37 PM

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I would say, like others have mentioned, go talk to a lawyer (do a little research first). I know I will never go into another court room (when I am being charged) without one. Like has been mentioned, the address that is on record with DMV has probably gotten at least a few letters from lawyers offering their services in traffic court, do a little research on them and give one or multiple a call.

:2

mexi-CAN 01-21-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 728990)
Down here in South Florida you can get a lawyer to get you off both tickets (maybe)...you end up paying court costs but get no points...dunno if he can get you off two at once though...it's the old boy network...lawyer gets paid, judges & cops earn their keep...everybody gets paid off and you save from your insurance going up...or you can go to a class for one of the tickets...usually it's one day and the same cost as the ticket but again, no points...you should be able to take the class for one and have the lawyer get you out of the other one...constesting it yourself in court is a real bad idea down here...

im going to end up hiring a lawyer for the first ticket and take care of the second with traffic school. thanks for the advice everyone much appreciated.

Neuromancer 01-21-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 729107)
im going to end up hiring a lawyer for the first ticket and take care of the second with traffic school. thanks for the advice everyone much appreciated.

Wise decision...even wiser would be to obey the traffic laws...:D

Blueface 01-22-2010 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 729107)
im going to end up hiring a lawyer for the first ticket and take care of the second with traffic school. thanks for the advice everyone much appreciated.

NO!!!!

If the two tickets are in different jurisdictions, have both addressed by an attorney.

Noodles 01-22-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mexi-CAN (Post 728361)
the sign was placed in such a way that it was unclear there were also cars parked on the side that was in the wrong direction. These two infractions are my first ever.

It's not a bs ticket. The LEO is enforcing the law. You are not aware of it because a few circumstances.

Had the same issue before. There was a single sign which was obscured by tree branches. I contested it. Took pictures from all angles. I presented my pictures to the judge. He basically said, paraphrasing here, "What you are saying is it's the fault of township for not maintaining a visible sign.". I was like er er., Yes your honor. He dismissed the case. You have a stronger case than I do, but again, as with everything else, YMMV.

Hire a lawyer.

RGD. 01-23-2010 02:08 PM

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Last fall I was stopped for doing 79 in a 55. In Virginia that means that if you are a resident of the Commonwealth you are going to get reamed - and rightfully so.

So this is what I did:

Signed up for an online drivers course and completed it. Went to court, dressed but not too much (jacket no tie). When it was my turn I pleaded guilty. When asked if I had anything to say I apologized and presented the judge with my online certificate. He was surprised that I had already taken it. He asked the officer if I was polite to him. The officer said yes. The judge said that since my driving record was clean (last offense was in 1981 so off the records), since I had completed the drivers course and was polite to the officer: charges dismissed with a small court fee of $78.

So no insurance hit, nothing on the record and I have the most allowable positive points that Virginia allows. Look like a model citizen - LOL

Good luck!

Ron

mexi-CAN 02-17-2010 07:21 PM

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had my court case today came in with attorney left with clean driving record!


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