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SilverFox 10-07-2009 11:35 AM

If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
How big of a diameter would you like to see

I am thinking 1/16th I have some draw tools that have a tendency to cause splits in smaller RG sticks. Perhaps you want two sizes. A 1/16th and a 3/32nd?

Would you like it to be a drill bit? So you could drill it in and maybe draw a bit of tobacco out?

How about handle? T Style...........L Style or just a round handle.

Your thoughts would be appreciated

md4958 10-07-2009 11:37 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
T or L style so that it could be "wound", flat tip so it could be slid between the leaves instead of ripping through everything. compact enough to slide in your pocket, but long enough to get half way through a churchill.

SilverFox 10-07-2009 11:39 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 588630)
T or L style so that it could be "wound", flat tip so it could be slid between the leaves instead of ripping through everything. compact enough to slide in your pocket, but long enough to get half way through a churchill.

Instead of flat tip how about drill bit?

md4958 10-07-2009 11:41 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 588632)
Instead of flat tip how about drill bit?

ive never used a drill bit, so not sure how that would affect the construction of the cigar.

Joey had one that was flat that worked great. not sure who made that

Mugen910 10-07-2009 11:48 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
it's have to be a really skinny drill bit...I've heard of BOTLs using a portable drill with bit and they say it works like a charm.

Eleven 10-07-2009 12:22 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I had a hand made cigar-spike type tool that I made from pictures of the real Cigar Spike, a small small phillips head screw driver from one of my sons toys, and a tooth pick today, and not one of them could save this plugged La Flor de Cano I just tried to smoke.

I think sometimes a plugged cigar is just a plugged cigar :(

Old Sailor 10-07-2009 12:26 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 588632)
Instead of flat tip how about drill bit?

:tu:tu

68TriShield 10-07-2009 12:35 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I don't bother with them anymore Shawn. Smoke right or be pitched. :)

leasingthisspace 10-07-2009 12:44 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
If it was "perfect" it would just make the cigar afaird to be plugged in the first place.

J/K

Good luck I think your going to get alot of diffent views on this subject.
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mmblz 10-07-2009 01:01 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
http://www.canaryzoo.com/Tips%20Anim...20tweezers.jpg

CigarNut 10-07-2009 01:02 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I use a drill bit, 1/16" and about 8" long; just use my fingers to "drill" a couple of holes through the cigar and have never had a problem. Seems to go in easily.

Smokin Gator 10-07-2009 01:06 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
The drill bit thing sounds really interesting... but I have a set of Grant's tools and am absolutely thrilled with them. I have two more sets on the way so I have them in all of me smoking spots and for maybe giving one or two way.

The have a flat, sharp, chisel like end that really cuts through the plugged part.

PeteSB75 10-07-2009 01:16 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I have a set of the ones that were sold as 'Henry's Tools' on CS. Regardless of what happened with the guy who made them, they work great, almost every time. They have a flat chisel-point to get in, but the shaft is flat and smooth, so they don't pull anything out. They just open a channel for smoke to pass through.

bobarian 10-07-2009 01:18 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I want a draw tool that sniffs out plugged cigars. Automatic centering would be nice too.

NickyTeen 10-07-2009 01:21 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Grants ( groogs) draw tools are awesome! Work great for nubbing also.:tu

ahc4353 10-07-2009 01:23 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
It would be held by a gorgeous Cuban. Wait, I have that, I'm all set. :D

Adriftpanda 10-07-2009 01:26 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 588843)
I want a draw tool that sniffs out plugged cigars. Automatic centering would be nice too.

:tpd:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyTeen (Post 588847)
Grants ( groogs) draw tools are awesome! Work great for nubbing also.:tu

:tpd: Grant's tool is awesome had mine for a total of 2 days then gave it to a friend, he loves it! I just stick to the old toothpick.

landhoney 10-07-2009 01:42 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I like the ones with "file' texture, where when you move them in and out they "file" out some of the tobacco, this helps prevent the tobacco from expanding back where the hole you created was and plugging the cigar back up. :2
Some sort of centering would be good, but once you use a draw tool a few times I think you're not very likely to poke a hole through the side of a cigar, at least I haven't after the first few times I used a draw tool (knock on wood). :D

tsolomon 10-07-2009 01:58 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I have been using a drill with a bit in it lately and it works pretty well. A T-handle with a drill bit would be great.

St. Lou Stu 10-07-2009 02:19 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Something like this perhaps?
http://www.drillerschoiceinc.com/ima...rill%20002.jpg


But really, a 1/16 or 1/32 rasp/round file would be best. No T handle needed.... If you need that kinda leverage, just pitch it man. I just want a handle that would prevent the end of the tool from becoming embedded in my palm.

MrOneEyedBoh 10-07-2009 05:10 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Yeah something maybe a cross from the Aerolus ( sold at cigar mony ) and a knurled draw tool. I was thinking of making something like this at work, are you making some OP?

RonC 10-07-2009 08:36 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
best i have used is a needle file

boom 10-07-2009 08:51 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
My not be the perfect draw tool but they do the job..... Yes I make 'em....

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/DSCN2287.jpg

alley00p 10-07-2009 09:13 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
So far, I've been using the thin poker that is part of a 3-1 czech pipe tool, for the past year or so.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/o.../czechtool.jpg

Mine hangs on my keyring, along with a cigar punch and a Nibo lighter purge and flame adjuster, so I always have it. In a pinch, it works as a nub tool too. :tu

BTW, Steve (Fissure) is trying to put together a GB for some drawtools. See this thread: CA Troop Support DrawTool GB :D

:dance:

Cyanide 10-07-2009 09:15 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
How about a trained tobacco beetle. That would be so COOL!!!!

Just release them into the humidor, have them sniff out the plugged cigars, crawl into the tight spots, eat just the right amount of tobacco to loosen it up and then return to you to be put back in their container with some of Shilala's growing plants and there you have it.....

THE PERFECT "SMART" DRAW TOOL!!!!!!
!!!!!
!!!!!

Cigary 10-08-2009 01:25 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 588883)
I like the ones with "file' texture, where when you move them in and out they "file" out some of the tobacco, this helps prevent the tobacco from expanding back where the hole you created was and plugging the cigar back up. :2
Some sort of centering would be good, but once you use a draw tool a few times I think you're not very likely to poke a hole through the side of a cigar, at least I haven't after the first few times I used a draw tool (knock on wood). :D

I actually have one of the old Draw Pokers and took it to a friend of mine who has a metal shop and I told him to take the rod and "knurl" the entire length of the rod except for the tip. The tip is like a fine threaded screw that will not tear open the cigar but rather start a good pilot hole and while you push the rod into the cigar and twist and turn it it takes small pieces of the cigar tobacco and opens up the inside of the cigar much like the tool they use to open the arteries of plaque ridden arteries in the human body. It mimics the process much like an atherectomy and when you slide the rod back from inside the cigar it traps the pieces of tobacco that was plugging the cigar in the tip portion of the rod like a small drill and pulls it back thru the insertion point. The Draw Poker has a guide to keep the rod from poking thru the side of the cigar at any point. I have literally saved at least 50-70 cigars that smoked great after using this tool. I figure at $8 a cigar I have saved myself at least $500 in the last 3 years and that's nothing to sneeze at.:tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by boom (Post 589550)
My not be the perfect draw tool but they do the job..... Yes I make 'em....

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/DSCN2287.jpg

I have one of Troys tools and it works great for some cigars that have issues.

boom 01-31-2010 12:03 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I have improved the tips with flutes cut in them...

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/100_2877.jpg

Subvet642 02-01-2010 11:27 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boom (Post 589550)
My not be the perfect draw tool but they do the job..... Yes I make 'em....


Do you sell them?

cigarcore 12-12-2011 07:45 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
If you do not remove tobacco from a plugged cigar, the plugged cigar will more than likely stay plugged. Check out PLUGGED CIGAR TOOL on You Tube and E Bay.

md4958 12-12-2011 08:00 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarcore (Post 1500398)
If you do not remove tobacco from a plugged cigar, the plugged cigar will more than likely stay plugged. Check out PLUGGED CIGAR TOOL on You Tube and E Bay.

Welcome to Cigar Asylum. You might want to post a introduction in the new inmate forum.

Not disclosing you are a vendor is frowned upon here.

icehog3 12-12-2011 08:25 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 1500427)
Welcome to Cigar Asylum. You might want to post a introduction in the new inmate forum.

Not disclosing you are a vendor is frowned upon here.

At least he put it in the right thread. :r

Fordman4ever 12-12-2011 08:45 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
I used a meat thermometer once, worked like a charm.

lenguamor 12-12-2011 08:50 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
My Henry's works perfectly. And it's also the perfect nubbing tool!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_2457-1.jpg

CasaDooley 12-13-2011 11:42 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarcore (Post 1500398)
If you do not remove tobacco from a plugged cigar, the plugged cigar will more than likely stay plugged. Check out PLUGGED CIGAR TOOL on You Tube and E Bay.

I am intrigued. Just bought on and will do a review when it arrives.

md4958 12-13-2011 11:52 AM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1500451)
At least he put it in the right thread. :r

:tu

CasaDooley 12-18-2011 12:41 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CasaDooley (Post 1501069)
I am intrigued. Just bought on and will do a review when it arrives.

Arrived 3 days after I ordered it. Great packaging and it looks nice. The best thing is that so far it works. Tried it on an infamous 1999 Punch Churchill;) and it allowed me to actually get a draw and smoke it.:tu Pictures will be forth coming.

Savor the Stick 12-18-2011 12:58 PM

Re: If you could build the perfect draw tool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CasaDooley (Post 1506197)
Arrived 3 days after I ordered it. Great packaging and it looks nice. The best thing is that so far it works. Tried it on an infamous 1999 Punch Churchill;) and it allowed me to actually get a draw and smoke it.:tu Pictures will be forth coming.

Very Interested Kev.

I don't have a DT and have been looking at the different ones available....still leaning toward those offered here at the Asylum.


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