Oil Found in Cuban waters
 

OK, doesn't sound like news, but apparently it's double what they were believed to have. Some news stories have already made the assumption that there is a possibility that this might be what ends the embargo.

I personally don't think it will, but who knows.

So, if there was a hypothetical vote to end the embargo, how would you vote? (public vote, I know wouldn't happen ever).

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i say no, i think it would really affect the quality of cigars

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i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

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i dunno, i think it would get out of control. there would be so many people wanting to try cubans, the demand for them would be unreal.

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I had to say No, because I think the demand would go through the roof and they would be imposible to get. Not that I get any now.;)

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It's all about supply and demand. The rest of the world is smoking CC's at a good price. They may go up in price but then the NC's will go down. A lot of the NC's are already pricier than the CC's. End the embargo now!!

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theres an embargo? :ss

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So why do some dodge certain years?

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Too much bad blood between the US and Cuba, I think they would stiff us on oil, even if we lifted the embargo

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Yes, because then demand will drop for my Honduran and Nic smokes so I can get them on the cheap of cbid. :ss

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Steve is crossing his fingers that those Camachos are going to be cheap!!!!! :ss

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Can't control the weather.

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I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

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Pride in the work has nothing to do with the Gov't control and the distribution. The workers do what the Gov't says....it's called communism.

:cool:
Nope. Cuba during some years had BAD quality control issues. CA magazine has talked about it and so have other forums. They blew up production and the quality suffered. They eventually scaled back down production until they could get it under control.

Habanos SA has said they are ready for the increased demand and scalable production if need be. But then again this is a gov't controlled organization so they speak what the gov't tells them to.

Also Most fo the farms changed the tobacco plant types to yield more crop per acre which changed the taste in 2003. It's why people covet pre-2003 cubans...that and they have at least 5 years of age on them.

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Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.

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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW! :dr

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The same could have been said with the United States and Soviet Union/Russia and we trade with one another. Hell, half of our friends today were at one time on our S list. I would like to see the embargo lifted because I think its an archaic policy that isn’t working, and the only people that have paid the price are the Cuban people. However, selfish reasons make me worry about the quality of the VCRs and TVs that I will be receiving from my friends down south.

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I would have to agree with someone who has such an awsome name. :ss

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:tpd::tpd::tpd:


YES!!!!!!!!!! Personally, I can hardly wait for that to happen. Imagine the blending possibilities!!!!!

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I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change... :ss

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I thoguht this might happen as well....but then a good friend N2Advnture made me realize that the Cuban Gov't would never allow it.

They would prefer all the Cuban tobacco only be used in Puros. Makes their product more desirable. And since the Communist govt rules all, independent farmers don't have the capitalist right to sell to whomever they wish.

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I vote NO. If the embargo was lifted every mook would be scrambling over eachother to get the Cuban Cigars, driving up the price, and i personally think there will be more counterfeits if that happened. Heve you looked at the lables of say Montecristo, or Rafiel Gonzolez? Any printer can make those. Clearly we are getting CC's from somwhwere already, at some good low prices too, why change that?

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so, oil in Cuba... why don't we just take it.

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:tpd:

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:tpd::tpd::tpd:

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I voted Yes. Yea, the price of cigars would go through the roof and I wouldn't see any for a while, but after things settle down I think everything would be fine and would love to have the ability to go to a B&M and buy a box or buy from an online retailer to purchase some without fear of having them yanked by Customs. They were common and inexpensive at one point and they could be again.

Plus, if trade was open with Cuba, I think both the US and Cuba would prosper monetarily. Cuba is said to have the worlds best mechanics since they can't get parts for their american cars and still find a way to make them run. :D

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Sad that you were the first to mention 'people'. I'm actully of the mind that if things opened up between Cuban & U.S. then changes would come and a lot of deep wounds would start to heal.

Nothing to do with the embargo, it's Cuban gov controlled.

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I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...bansadammm.jpg

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I can't answer just yes or no to this question.
Yes, if Cuba were to do some things first...
No if things are just the way they are now.

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The Chinese already have it. It was found in similar waters to where we won't drill.:mad:

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I agree with you here. It's simple supply/demand economics. They will produce as much as they can in a quality fashion, but the supply will never keep up with the demand making the cigars you normally buy super expensive.

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in that case, i will vote YES:r

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Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.

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you make some very valid points.
I think I know how Carlos would vote on this too