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dentonparrots 06-27-2009 03:59 PM

How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Since the guy died I've heard LOADS of jokes about his death. I expected a flood of them within hours of hearing of his demise but not THIS many :r:r

Starscream 06-27-2009 05:57 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dentonparrots (Post 442900)
Since the guy died I've heard LOADS of jokes about his death. I expected a flood of them within hours of hearing of his demise but not THIS many :r:r

I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste. Wait a week or so at least. Give the family and fans some time to mourn.

Scottw 06-27-2009 08:09 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
PM me some, I only have 6 or 7/

shilala 06-27-2009 08:37 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I only got 4 or 5 on my cellfone so far.

Wolfgang 06-27-2009 08:41 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Way Too soon. :2

TonySmith 06-27-2009 08:46 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
When asked what the pain was like, he said like a 10 year old boy jumping on his chest

Martin 06-27-2009 09:08 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
"Due to the fact that Michael Jackson was 99% plastic, he will be melted down into lego blocks so little boys can play with him for a change"

kelmac07 06-27-2009 09:40 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Too many too soon!!

MajorCaptSilly 06-27-2009 09:46 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS

Starscream 06-27-2009 10:09 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 443108)
Way Too soon. :2

:tpd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 443177)
Too many too soon!!

:tpd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 443190)
I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS

I wish I could say :tpd: . I've heard way too many at this point in time.

RichardW 06-27-2009 10:30 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 442971)
I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste. Wait a week or so at least. Give the family and fans some time to mourn.

:tpd:

Wolfgang 06-27-2009 11:01 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Maybe he was a misguided in his later years, however one action shouldn't discredit an entire career. Michael cannot ever be replaced. Whether you disliked him or loved him he has influenced a whole generation of music and dance.

dentonparrots 06-28-2009 05:21 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Turns out he didn't die of a heart attack, he was found on the childrens ward having a stroke!

DougBushBC 06-28-2009 05:38 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 442971)
I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste.

To be completely honest, I normally would agree with the poor taste, but there are a few things that I find completely and utterly unforgivable, and Child Molestation is one of them. There is no excuse, even psycological problems, for that.

If you believe that he never did those things (heard a few people say this), then you are absolutely living pie in the sky with your rose colored glasses, paying a family $20 million may not convict him but it proves that the MANY claims were true.

AD720 06-28-2009 07:51 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DougBushBC (Post 443347)
To be completely honest, I normally would agree with the poor taste, but there are a few things that I find completely and utterly unforgivable, and Child Molestation is one of them. There is no excuse, even psycological problems, for that.

If you believe that he never did those things (heard a few people say this), then you are absolutely living pie in the sky with your rose colored glasses, paying a family $20 million may not convict him but it proves that the MANY claims were true.


So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.

shilala 06-28-2009 09:32 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443395)
So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.

I'm with you, and I read very closely through the years.
What I got out of the whole deal is that he definately molested many children, but thought it was okay because he thinks he's a kid and it's natural for kids to "explore".
It all adds up. Right up to the end.

AD720 06-28-2009 09:37 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443465)
I'm with you, and I read very closely through the years.
What I got out of the whole deal is that he definately molested many children, but thought it was okay because he thinks he's a kid and it's natural for kids to "explore".
It all adds up. Right up to the end.

That's actually not what I was saying at all. If you are are saying that he molested children but thought it was OK then you are most definitely not with me.

My point was not to start a debate on what happened but to make the point (to the member that I responded to) that it is possible for someone to believe what they want about this situation and not only not be naive but quite possibly be well informed.

shilala 06-28-2009 09:48 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443469)
That's actually not what I was saying at all. If you are are saying that he molested children but thought it was OK then you are most definitely not with me.

My point was not to start a debate on what happened but to make the point (to the member that I responded to) that it is possible for someone to believe what they want about this situation and not only not be naive but quite possibly be well informed.

I think the second part is what I was agreeing with. :)
I don't think he ever molested children in the definative (legal) sense of the word, or maybe he did.
I do believe he did things he shouldn't have on many levels, on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.
In any event, I'm not his judge. I think he was a tortured soul, and he's far better off now.
So far as the jokes go, he went out of his way to make sure he earned them. Most guys just have a swingset in the back yard for the kids, ya know?

AD720 06-28-2009 09:51 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443478)
I think the second part is what I was agreeing with. :)

Roger that. :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443478)
I don't think he ever molested children in the definative (legal) sense of the word, or maybe he did.
I do believe he did things he shouldn't have on many levels, on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.
In any event, I'm not his judge. I think he was a tortured soul, and he's far better off now.
So far as the jokes go, he went out of his way to make sure he earned them. Most guys just have a swingset in the back yard for the kids, ya know?

:tpd: That's the destination I was taking a very round about route to.

Scottw 06-28-2009 10:00 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
[quote=AD720;443395]So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.

$23,000,000 is a pretty hefty "avoidance fee" if you ask me.

shilala 06-28-2009 10:01 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443484)
Roger that. :tu



:tpd: That's the destination I was taking a very round about route to.

See, we're in agreement. :tu
I do wonder what will happen to his children. Whether time will forgive Michael and they'll do okay, or if time will bring even more accusations.
In my way of thinking, he went so far as to keep them anonymous to protect them from his legacy, rather than for them to benefit of it.

Starscream 06-28-2009 02:06 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443395)
So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.

:tpd:
Well said. We were'nt there, we don't know. I tend to beleive that a lot of people were out to make a lot of money off of this man.

Starscream 06-28-2009 02:26 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 443804)
:tpd:
Well said. We were'nt there, we don't know. I tend to beleive that a lot of people were out to make a lot of money off of this man.

Edit: Don't get me wrong; I've told many an MJ joke over the years, but I don't think that now is the time for them.

I also beleive that anyone who actually has done as many wierd and crazy things as MJ has been accused of would be locked up in an institution a long long time ago.

Silound 06-28-2009 03:20 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I'm of the opinion that since I will never know the truth, nor will anyone I know, I don't judge.

I will, however, make fun of him all day and listen to his music all night.



That being said, I've gotten no less than 30 different jokes in the last few days, almost none of which were really very funny. There was one funny one about Farrah Fawcet and her dying wish though :)

karmaz00 06-28-2009 06:11 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
this could get out of hand soon..

DougBushBC 06-28-2009 06:38 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I will then retract my post, I wouldn't want to cause flame wars over that which I see as an obvious truth and others choose to ignore. His music was instrumental in my childhood and I respect that immensely. I'll leave it at that

bigloo 06-28-2009 08:10 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
It is amazing that every time someone dies, the slate seems to be wiped clean. His music ability and talent are without question, but do not fool yourself, the did molest children. Above and beyond the million dollar settlements, he admitted to having children in his bed with some BS explanation to as why. His saving grace was that the parents of these children were involved in the process to make money and IMHO should have also been charged and were interested in money and not convictions. IF you do not think he molested children then I suppose you would have him babysit overnight? No level of talent excuses what he did. BTW, OJ was found innocent too of killing his wife... is there ANY doubt he did it. There are books out there which show how absurd the verdict was and howw overpowering the evidence was, so verdicts and court proceeding need to be weighed in with some common sense.

jonharky 06-28-2009 08:23 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound (Post 443899)
That being said, I've gotten no less than 30 different jokes in the last few days, almost none of which were really very funny. There was one funny one about Farrah Fawcet and her dying wish though :)

Heard that one too not bad!!

Martin 06-28-2009 08:24 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 443190)
I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS

I'm an adult who happens to have my own opinion, which is he was a pedophile, how much compassion do you think he showed the parents of the children he traumatised.

Now may I draw some conclusions of your support of him?

Starscream 06-28-2009 08:26 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I think this one has run its course.

Aldebaran 06-28-2009 11:49 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
I think many people underestimate court proceedings and laws that are aimed at protecting the innocene of a child. Considering you can get seven years for a single picture of child ****ograpy, or how light the burder of proof has to be to prove guilt in most cases, I am fairly certain he is innocent of child molestation. Creepy maybe but creepiness isnt outlawed. All seven of the charges of child molestation were found without merit. To those who say his '93 act of settling was suspiciious consider that in People v. Jackson it cost him at least twice as much

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_...e_Code_1108.29

His '93 accusations were brought up in People v. Jackson so if it were found that he was bribing him that would have been added to the charges which it wasnt, and the DA would have if he could sentenced him to death so why is that charge missing? The DA found it to be useless.

It really bothers me that media has created an enviorment in which slander is accepted at face value.

Also I have like five Michael Jackson jokes but each of them hundreds of times.

TheBeard 06-30-2009 10:42 PM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
In an attempt to bring some levity back to the topic in the OP:

I've heard a few jokes here and there. What surprised me was the speed of The Internet. This pictures was up mere hours after his death
http://j.photos.cx/michaeljackson-2f0.jpg

He may be gone, but his music and his legacy remain.

Genetic Defect 07-01-2009 12:01 AM

Re: How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
 
[quote=Scottw;443494]
Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443395)
So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.

$23,000,000 is a pretty hefty "avoidance fee" if you ask me.

is the answer. I will not get drawn into a mindless debate over something that every know as fact. I guess I need to research the whole thing again. what was he accused of? :confused: I still dont pay attention to the news.
I will say the parents were money hungry POS

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