I'm done with FOX.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJn5XlbSFk

Not sure how many folks have seen this on the news.

On one hand, I'm pissed. I have had family who has served in Afghanistan and to mock their contributions and the lives of the 116 soldiers who have died is in extremely poor taste.

On the other hand, it's FOX. I never take what they say seriously. But I'm also tired of giving them my money (in terms of watching their programming) when they turn around and put bullshit like this out.

So, I'm done with them. I won't be watching any of their programming or going to see any of their movies.

Am I taking it too far or too seriously? Maybe. But when there are plenty of other interesting things to watch on TV, why would I support a bunch of assholes?

What do you guys think?


spin

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I've never this "Red Eye" segment, but they look like a bunch of stoned out jokers trying to get a rise out of people, not too credible if you ask me :confused:

Anyway, I was too distracted by the "related" Megan Fox Sexy Video Compilation - FHM 2008 link :dance:

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Certainly looks to me to be in very poor taste.
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:tpd: I see this as a total publicity stunt! Some people have no class!

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That's not cool.

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4 freakin' a$$holes. :2

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Those people should not be allowed on TV. Americans owe all allied soldiers thanks, no matter what country they come from. We were attacked and Canada as well as a number of other allies chose to help us. Pure Ignorance.

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+1 :tu

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:tpd: Freaking idiots

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Red Eye is not news, it is like watching SNL News or Comedy Central, but not as humorous. :2

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Is censorship an american value?

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I'm not saying censor them, hell, keep these guys on the air. Personally, I'm done. The relationship between FOX and I is over. I'm breaking up with them.

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That was nothing compared to what the Jon Stewart show has done.

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How dare you bash Jon Stewart!!!!!!:D:D

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you're either part of the problem or part of the solution.....nuff said

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In my opinion the US media in general is pathetic. You can watch any of the major networks and laugh at the absurdness of what they are saying. Honestly I just stick to the BBC most of the time (although they certainly arent perfect). As for this particular clip pretty ridiculous to belittle the contributions and sacrifices of the Canadian military. Censorship is not the answer, not watching is! I cant believe I just stuck up for Canadians ;)

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I don't think we should pass a law to censor them, I think they should be fired. Firing someone for saying something blatantly stupid and with national security ramifications is not censoring them. Fox should take away their platform.

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:confused:

Yeah, getting young people in touch with what's really going on using a humourous approach to point out the absurdities and lies of those in control using actual facts.

I may have missed a few episodes, but I've never seen him bash any troops.
Was he hard on Bush? Sure, but early into the new administration, he seems to be an equal opportunity basher.

It may be just a basic cable show, but he does ask the tough questions of those responsible. I don't think that's bad journalism.

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In this case there would be nobody working for the major newspapers or most of congress.

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I have seen Jon Stewart bash the troops in order to bash Bush. That, in my opinion is worse than bashing Bush would have been. That was the last time I watched Jon Stewart.

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I like FOX News, but I can't understand why they continue to put this Red Eye show on the air.

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So you know you're being dramatic, right?

This show is on at 3 in the morning (eastern). It's shock humor.

"I didn't like it, so they should lose their jobs!"

Does that sound like an adult to you? Sorry if I take this stuff seriously but I went to school for writing, and I plan to make my living by expressing myself. No one needs to be fired over a crappy series of jokes--btw, the segment wasn't funny. Not because it was offensive, but because it was a bit hackish and unoriginal.

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I kind of agree. What should get them fired is that show sucks so damn much that nobody watches!

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:tpd:

This is Fox' late night entry attempting to emulate the shock jock mentality.
It's meant to be lewd, crude and to get a reaction. It seems to have succeeded. Take it for what it is. It's not a serious news program.

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An apology:
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_33132.aspx

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Jon Stewart is a comedian, or at least some think he is, not a journalist. He is not a source for news nor should be. As for asking tough questions, thats alsmost a joke.:2

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"I know that the purpose of that show is to be irreverent and humorous, right? But I think they picked the wrong topic and they showed just incredible ignorance as to what Canada's done," he tells CityOnline. "It was really crass and tasteless and I found it very offensive." (From the Apology article).

So he acknowledges the point of the show, and then gets offended when they follow through.

A grown man demanding an apology over words is a sissy.

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A pox on all their houses!

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I respectively disagree. Whether you agree or disagree with his slant on things, to get any news from a single source is only doing you a dis-service.
Multiple sourcing is the only way for a reasonable person to come to a reasonable conclusion.

If you're going to write him off because he's a comedian, you apparently saw neither his or Dave Letterman's show the first night back after the attacks on 9/11. Powerful shows. :2

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:tpd:

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Personally, I would agree with you 150% if that were aired on a normal news show. And I still agree with you 150% in taking offense to the material presented. But in reality, if you are going to take issue with FOX over that, I think you would also have to take issue with nearly every other major network out there. And I could agree with you on that just as easily. however I can't agree with you if you want to take issue ONLY with FOX, that then becomes a little hypocritical. (And don't worry, US television shows like that bashes our own military even more than the Candian, so don't get too pissed at us from an international standpoint!). Like Rebel said, it would be like boycotting NBC because they host SNL.... :2

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It sounds like the free market to me. It's not like I can fire them from one lowly post in a cigar forum. We'll see if enough people support that crap to keep tuning in. I'd be surprised if they're on in three months.

I'd rather watch infomercials for the Sham-wow, then those idiots.

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Sham-wow is a fine product...German engineered!

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I agree that you should get your news from multiple sources. I watch at least 2 national news networks and subsribe to 2 national newspapers. Thats 4 diff. sources. I would just rather choose to get my news from people that know what they are talking about and have experience in what they are talking about. :2

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Fox only has five shows worth watching, in my opinion. Simpsons, King of the Hill (soon to be canceled, sadly) American Dad (not quite as good as) Family Guy, and Dollhouse (amazing sci-fi show, too bad they never give things a chance to flourish).

All those shows except Dollhouse (Fridays at nine EST) are on Sunday nights (eight-ten EST).

I don't bother with the war-related news, especially not trash spewed from the mouths of...those people *shudders* screw politics.

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I don't take personal offense to what they said on Red Eye, few things rarely get me going. But I feel like I am disrespecting our troops by giving my advertising dollar (in viewership) to a company that supports those comedians. There are shock jocks in this world who can make light of serious matters - Howard Stern although at times offensive, at least attempt to be intelligent.

I watch lots of world programming as it's very available in Toronto (how many places in the world can you watch the 6pm news in 10 languages?) and none of the other major networks, American, British, Italian, Chinese and otherwise, would cross the line as often and with as much disregard as FOX has - see Ann Coulter clips about Canadian forces.

I don't dislike Americans, on the contrary, I think the US is an easy target for blame, but when a country is in crisis, the US is always the first to come to aid. I'm just tired of the anti-allied sentiment from FOX.

Aren't we in this fight together?

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I've given up my sham-wow for a snuggie.. you guys are so 2008.

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To those that say that its harmless comedy and that the right to speech should override all others I say this:

While I will defend to the death your right to free speech, I will not defend you against the consequences of your speech. There should not be journalistic immunity from saying your thoughts. If these people want to be considered journalists, or comedians, and if journalism wants to paint itself in the colours of a professional body, then they have to set and live up to a code of ethics that includes concepts of integrity and accountability. If I were so drole, so unprofessional in my conduct while serving the public then my credentials would be yanked in a heartbeat.

If these clowns want to say their statements were "taken out of context" or that freedom of speech should protect them from their own idiocy then I say take them to task as to why these things should be considered.

Their freedom of speech is only a right because of the sacrifices put forth by those "fighting few", it is earned for them through the work and tragedy of others. For, in many ways, it is a privelege otherwise and should be marched out to defend rediculousness ever so delicately.

While they should not be barred from spouting their insensitive crass BS, their reputation, careers and legitimacy should be impacted by the quality and accuracy of their words.

Can the buggers

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I'm glad. Vince freaks me out.

And I almost posted a rant thread about those FOX asshats, as I too was incensed. Something like "drop that little @#$^$ in the skinny tie on a road outside Kabul and let him find out for himself."
But then, that's just what they're after. How many people, Canadians in particular, now know this show exists? I say ignore them and maybe they'll crawl back under their rocks of mediocrite.

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We have such a code and live by or face sanctions, both from our readers (or viewers) and the legal system. Those guys on FOX aren't journalists. They're as far from journalism as you can get.

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True true true

But, if they want to parade around in the drapes of a professional body (in essence they are "playing the part" of journalists, although loosely) then they either have to step up and work within those codes or face "the consequences". Practicing medicine without a license is a felony, I am sure that doing the equivalency within law is probably also illegal. There should be similar considerations then within journalism.


But I think I will stop before I start sounding like a communistic crack-pot (oooops, some would say I am already there)

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Are you talking about FOX News as a whole, or just Red Eye?

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Red Eye. Haven't seen a standard newscast on FOX.

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I see. I agree that Red Eye doesnt have real journalism. I totally agree that the origninal statement made on Red Eye was completely BS. Should they be taken off the air? I dont think so. The viewer should control that. Should you stop watching FOX because of it? Thats your choice. But I think there is a reason that FOX News leads all other news channels.

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I don't think more than 15 people knew Red Eye existed before this. If now 45 people watch it then they have tippled their audience. A total success story.

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Agreed, but now you're talking about a deep rooted societal and ethical problem at the core of well.... TOO MANY @#^#$&%@$#%!@ people in this society today... I fear we may have already trashed ourselves beyond ethical repair :(

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I am deeply offended by not just this particular episode, but the more deeply rooted stereotypes and ignorances that are the real reason that they said these things in the first place. While I don't want to appear hypocritical (and in no way am I trying to accuse any BOTL here), in my experiences, the "worldlyness" of most citizens of the USA is below that of most other countries. Why is that? They don't have to be because they are as powerful as they are. However, the ignorance of Canada (or any other country for that manner) bites them once in a while like this particular show.

I have no idea who these 5 people are. I have never heard of them, except I recall the "comedian" was on Last Comic Standing in the past, I guess that makes him an expert in international affairs. They clearly show that they have no idea of this country, and they are no better than the people you see driving across the border in July with skis strapped to their cars looking for the ski hills!

The sad thing is, we really can't do anything about it. A "boycott" of Fox or it's advertisers would not be effective because technically, the Canadian audience is not part of their demographic and our dollars are not a factor. I don't watch any Fox shows anyways, there is nothing there worth watching (cartoons? give me a break).

I get sick and tired of watching the sterotypes of this country portrayed on US-based TV.

This country has a long history of participation in international military actions. We were participants in the Boer War and then both World Wars - way before the US in both cases I may add - Korea, the first Gulf war and lately Afghanistan. How many Americans know about the Canadians that enlisted, fought and died in the 1960's and 1970's in Vietnam? We invented the PeaceKeeping arm of the UN and spent many years doing just that. We are a country of less than 30 million people. At the end of WW II, we had the 4th largest navy in the world. We do not shy away from a fight - as long as it's justified!

The more I think about these jerks on Fox the angrier I get. I would suggest to anyone to pick up a book on Canadian history, I think you would be surprised at what you read.

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Its more the young people who use Jon Stewart, a comedian, as their only source of "news" and take it all as fact

As far as this video goes, Red Eye is hardly news as well...and what they said is in real poor taste and if they were taken off the air I wouldn't lose any sleep.

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I wouldn't take these comedians seriously. We have top politicians, even presidential candidates call our soldiers lazy, stupid losers who had no future so they joined the military. This is how Jon Stewart portrayed them in order to bash Bush. Al Franken has done the same. One Congressman claimed our Marines were GUILTY of MURDER and the hadn't even been tried! Our leading newspapers propagate these stereotypes. These guys on Red Eye were cracking jokes about soldiers asking for time off. That is pretty funny. They did take it too far, but there are far worse things, especially in Canada, to worry about than some almost nonexistent comedians who no one had ever heard about before.

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:tpd: