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hammondc 05-19-2011 08:00 AM

Budget wine thread
 
This idea was discussed in a previous thread, but I do not think it ever got started....so I am starting it.

As much as I would love to drink only Silver Creek, Cakebread or Nickel & Nickel, I love my under $30 wines. Put your suggestions here.

hammondc 05-19-2011 08:01 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Cupcake Cabernet. Pretty decent stuff for around $9
Bogle Pinot - Always good for $10-$12
337 Cab - A staple in my house for $12
Forefront - Fantastic cab for ~$22

BigCat 05-19-2011 12:14 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Menage a trois - $8 at Costco
Dancing Bull Cab and Zin - between 7-10 at Meijer
Dynamite Zin - $9 most places I've seen it
Bogle Cab - $10
7 deadly zins - $10 at Costco

I think these are all really good bangs for the buck.

Guitarman-S.T- 05-19-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Durigutti * spelling* makes a Wonderul 07-08 Malbec for 16$, really blew me away

Subvet642 05-19-2011 12:24 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
http://www.rantsncrap.com/blog%20pics/md2020.jpg

:D ;s

Aero95 05-19-2011 12:36 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Carmel Road Chardonnay $18ish

xlc12rf 05-19-2011 12:43 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
For about $10 I like the Blackstone Merlot

TheRiddick 05-19-2011 01:19 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

Skywalker 05-19-2011 01:24 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 1268035)
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

:tuhttp://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=4335:tu
This guy!!!:dance:

Volusianator 05-19-2011 01:43 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 1268035)
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

Not sure what your point is or how it would relate to this thread?

xlc12rf 05-19-2011 02:03 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1268077)
Not sure what your point is or how it would relate to this thread?

He is saying why bother drinking crap wine.

Cause the line has to be drawn somewhere. I drink expensive beer, and smoke expensive cigars. I don't consider myself a wino, so why should I bother with 'good' wine?

Christiel49 05-19-2011 02:26 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Wow!! I totally see where you are going.......however I smoke great cigars 2x a week, wine is a little different. One cigar last about an hour and a bottle of wine only has Three glasses which is easly done in one sitting/daily.

To each his own

Chateau St Michelle: Reisling $15

Volusianator 05-19-2011 02:32 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlc12rf (Post 1268115)
He is saying why bother drinking crap wine.

Cause the line has to be drawn somewhere. I drink expensive beer, and smoke expensive cigars. I don't consider myself a wino, so why should I bother with 'good' wine?

Drink what you like, smoke what you like, ride what you like. It's all preference, Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy. Just because someone like "premium" cigars doesn't mean they have to drink expensive wines.

hammondc 05-19-2011 02:58 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.


*here, I did it for you.

Volusianator 05-19-2011 03:06 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1268177)
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.


*here, I did it for you.

Whoa, that attitude will get you a lot of great replies.

hammondc 05-19-2011 03:11 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1268188)
Whoa, that attitude will get you a lot of great replies.

I am sure it will.

markem 05-19-2011 03:16 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

The Poet 05-19-2011 03:17 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Chill, Chip. If you ignore the bears instead of poking them, maybe they will go elsewhere. And if not, so what?

I work in a wineshop, and we have some expensive stuff on the shelves . . . where most of it has been for a loooong time, and where it may likely stay for an even longer time. Even if you discount the fact that the vast majority of people cannot afford $100-$500 for a single bottle of wine, most of those who may have the financial resources do not see the point of it. Why should they spend that much when they may not be able to distinguish the difference anyway?

It is relatively easy to find a good bottle of wine in excess of the $30 price point Chip proposed. But it is just as easy to find good ones under that, and when you do it is more fun, more gratifying, and more fiscally responsible. Me, I'm much more pleased when I find a drinkable bottle for $10 than I would be were it twice . . . or 10 times . . . that price.

This post is full of my :2 regarding the overall issue, and totally lacking in any specific suggestions. But then, who wants to rely on the taste of a guy who buys bundled cigars? :D

Skywalker 05-19-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
;s

Here is my contribution:

http://www.vino100.com/

100 great wines for $25.00 or less!

I have one of these stores in my town. I have found it a great place to shop around and not spend a ton of money.
They also have tastings so I can try the wine so I know what to spend my money on.

Check out their site, even if you don't have a store near you.

hammondc 05-19-2011 03:32 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Good link. There are 2 in my work territory. I will be near one in two weeks. I will have to check it out.

Volusianator 05-19-2011 03:54 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Fantastic post! Similar to what I said earlier, drink what you like, like what you drink, smoke, drive, ride, eat...whatever the case may be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1268204)
Chill, Chip. If you ignore the bears instead of poking them, maybe they will go elsewhere. And if not, so what?

I work in a wineshop, and we have some expensive stuff on the shelves . . . where most of it has been for a loooong time, and where it may likely stay for an even longer time. Even if you discount the fact that the vast majority of people cannot afford $100-$500 for a single bottle of wine, most of those who may have the financial resources do not see the point of it. Why should they spend that much when they may not be able to distinguish the difference anyway?

It is relatively easy to find a good bottle of wine in excess of the $30 price point Chip proposed. But it is just as easy to find good ones under that, and when you do it is more fun, more gratifying, and more fiscally responsible. Me, I'm much more pleased when I find a drinkable bottle for $10 than I would be were it twice . . . or 10 times . . . that price.

This post is full of my :2 regarding the overall issue, and totally lacking in any specific suggestions. But then, who wants to rely on the taste of a guy who buys bundled cigars? :D


MajorCaptSilly 05-19-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1268202)
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

Sticky material right there.

MCS

mmblz 05-19-2011 05:46 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 1268273)
Sticky material right there.

MCS

Cotton candy or pine pitch?




Barefoot Chardonnay is pretty good for the price even if there are others I would prefer to be drinking :D
Menage a Trois someone mentioned - like the Rose
A to Z Pinot Noir

$30 is a high enough bar to find plenty of good wines...

Volusianator 05-19-2011 05:54 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.

icehog3 05-19-2011 06:04 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1268402)
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.

:tu :dr

TheRiddick 05-19-2011 08:04 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1268202)
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

Please remind me, did I miss your illuminating wine related posts elsewhere?

As opposed to a bunch of mine, discussing and recommending wines AT ALL PRICE POINTS, in a number of threads. So, as trolling goes, look in the mirror...
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I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines. For someone above equating pleasure quotient of wine versus cigar all I can say is that even the largest cigar is no more than what, 3+ hours of pleasure, yet a bottle of wine can deliver pleasure over 2-3 days if need be. Some, like sherries, can stay open for years and deliver great pleasure for that long. Where does price come into this equation?

As much as I tell people to drink (and smoke) what they like I, basically, would rather drink good beer than bad wine, and plain water rather bad beer. Many of the wines mentioned in these "cheap wine" threads are barely wine, many are simply chemical concoctions. Many use oak by-products and food/color additives to cover bad fruit. Thus, my usual questions as to why one would demand pure tobacco and yet subject his internals to chemical crap. I say stick to beer instead (or whatever your other beverage of choice may be).

Those of you above who immediately lumped me into the "only high price products" category obviously know nothing about me. I always look for value, and yes, sometimes that value can actually be a higher priced product. And many a time price is the true measuring stick, low price means low quality. Yeah, I know, a novel concept to most of you in the thread (sorry for sarcasm).

So, how many drive a Yugo? Or cheapest,20 year old Hiunday/Nissan? Why not?

All I see is threads upon threads on Tats/DPG/Viaje/etc/etc/etc, almost never threads on cheapest bundles from Famous/CI/second tier/third tier cigars that are in same league, quality wise, as many of the wines discussed.

But hey, its your liver, (ab)use it any way you want.



For the record, depending on the batch and varietal I would take a 2 Buck Chuck over many of the wines mentioned.

Volusianator 05-19-2011 08:32 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 1268543)
Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.

So? Why let that bother you?

markem 05-19-2011 09:22 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 1268543)
I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.

Start one. You do know how to do that, right?

icehog3 05-19-2011 09:54 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
We have threads on cheap bundle smokes, value cigars, etc.....A member can't start a value wine thread without getting your dander up?

Drink what you like (everyone), like what you drink (everyone), and don't take yourself too seriously. ;)

replicant_argent 05-19-2011 10:05 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
I suggest 3 buck chuck ;)

icehog3 05-19-2011 10:12 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 1268642)
I suggest 3 buck chuck ;)

I've had it, and thought it was worth at least four-fitty. ;)

pektel 05-19-2011 11:00 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Back on topic, shall we?

For everyday value wines, I like fetzer and bogle. Fetzer runs under $7 and bogle runs under $10 at the local walmart liquor store here. I really like frei brothers Cabernet as well. About $20, and delicious as far as my palate is concerned.

For super cheap, I've been able to rather enjoy yellow tail merlot, though it's one of those chemical concoctions riddick was referring to.
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hammondc 05-20-2011 06:35 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
I agree on Bogle. Good, solid stuff for ~$10. The Pinot and Cab are very good.

Had some Castle Rock Pinot last night. Very good stuff. Paired up with an Illusione Nostros. It was a good night.

pnoon 05-20-2011 06:36 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1268676)
Back on topic, shall we?

You can bet on it.

Subvet642 05-20-2011 06:39 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
As for myself, I don't know a lot about wines, but I know what I like. I don't have a refined palette, but, for a bargain bottle I like the Gallo Hearty Burgundy.

mosesbotbol 05-20-2011 06:49 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1268177)
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.

Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.

OnlyDryReds 05-20-2011 07:56 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.

pnoon 05-20-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlyDryReds (Post 1268882)
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.

Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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NCRadioMan 05-20-2011 08:56 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1268823)
Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.

This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.

xlc12rf 05-20-2011 09:21 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1268949)
This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.

x2

I love finding cheap, drinkable wine.

OLS 05-20-2011 09:25 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Haha, that's right. "There are too many threads where people come in and try to re-ask the questions the
OP asked, to frame them in their own terms." haha. Or something like that.
Like was said, only
the OP knows what he asked and why he asked it. If the thread has no merit, it will die a quick death to the
high-numbered pages. I had this happen to me the other day, someone was bound and determined to tell me
what I meant by what I asked. WTF?

Volusianator 05-20-2011 10:06 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1268941)
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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LOL

hammondc 05-20-2011 08:53 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
337 Cabernet- Pretty good stuff. A little astringent, but still worth the ~$11.

BigCat 05-21-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1269628)
337 Cabernet- Pretty good stuff. A little astringent, but still worth the ~$11.

+1. I like this stuff.

markem 05-21-2011 10:36 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Okay, I'll admit to a very strange way of picking cheap wines that seems to work for us. For some reason, picking the bottle with the really cool animal seems to work. On rare occasions, it is a spectacular failure, but most of the time, we like the wine we pick with that method.

CigarNut 05-21-2011 11:46 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 1270103)
Okay, I'll admit to a very strange way of picking cheap wines that seems to work for us. For some reason, picking the bottle with the really cool animal seems to work. On rare occasions, it is a spectacular failure, but most of the time, we like the wine we pick with that method.

That one bottle of "white" wine you picked up with the picture of a dog peeing, was not very good. A little to warm for me...

smokepuff 05-21-2011 06:54 PM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Woodbridge Lightly oaked Chardonnay white @ $7 @ Shop-N-Save Sale Price only :D
Mount Pleasant Norton (Missouri winery) @ $20

I usually stock up on anything from Missouri Winery at local mart discounted price
And that's how I drink wine on a budget

OnlyDryReds 05-26-2011 11:37 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1268941)
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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Hmmmmmmm Yes I see that!

Well Ill think of something while drinking a Mondavi Woodbridge Chard this evening. :tu

vankleekkw 05-28-2011 11:15 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
A couple of cheaper wines that I've been drinking
Bonterra - An organic wine for ~ $12
BV
Penfolds
Chateau st. John

pektel 06-11-2011 03:29 AM

Re: Budget wine thread
 
Had a bottle of 2007 castle rock napa valley Cabernet sauvignon tonight, and am pleasantly surprised. A little heavy on the tart fruit and less dry and oaky like some others, but still very enjoyable. 12.49 at my local liquor store. May go pick up a case tomorrow to put away and see what happens after some of that fruit dies down.
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