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MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 07:38 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Anyone have experience with Raven Concealment holsters? I'm kinda digging the fact the Phantom can be worn OWB and IWB.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 07:42 AM

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I don't. Sorry. You could probably find someone local who could make u one for cheaper. Hell, you could make one yourself. Not hard to make your own kydex holster.

Blueface 01-16-2013 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782060)
To ME generally width of the pistol effects how easy it is to conceal than any other factor.

Agree for me.
I found the Glock 26/27 and the Springfield way thicker IWB than what I personally wanted and that is why I was tossed between the XDs and Shield.
Ended up with Shield due to $200 difference at that point in time and fact it just felt better as was not use to 1911 style safety.

spectrrr 01-16-2013 07:59 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782060)
To ME generally width of the pistol effects how easy it is to conceal than any other factor.

for me, its the width, but just as much, the length of the grip. I end up having to carry everything at a 20-40 degree cant just to keep the grip from poking out.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1782089)
Anyone have experience with Raven Concealment holsters? I'm kinda digging the fact the Phantom can be worn OWB and IWB.

no personal experience. Excellent reputation. horrid wait times.
Like Justin said, can probably find something else...

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 08:05 AM

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Francis. I try to get all my holsters with at least a 15* FBI cant to it. That's what my PJ holster will be. It'll be easier to get away with a pistol that has a longer grip if it's thinner though

MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 08:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782092)
I don't. Sorry. You could probably find someone local who could make u one for cheaper. Hell, you could make one yourself. Not hard to make your own kydex holster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1782100)
no personal experience. Excellent reputation. horrid wait times.
Like Justin said, can probably find something else...

Lead times are a little out of hand, but found a couple second hand for a little more cash. I'll just wait for the next local gun show and see what's available locally.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 08:34 AM

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Why OWB carry though?

MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782122)
Why OWB carry though?

Thinking it might be a little more comfortable and I can probably still conceal it with some shirts

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 08:46 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
what gun u gonna carry?

MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782131)
what gun u gonna carry?

The new 1911, I'm set for holsters for the Kahr

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 09:22 AM

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Heck night be cheaper to buy a separate owb and iwb holster lol

MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 10:00 AM

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There's always that, I'm pretty happy with the Galco King Tuk I have for IWB.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 10:07 AM

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Then but a owb save money

bonjing 01-16-2013 10:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1782089)
Anyone have experience with Raven Concealment holsters? I'm kinda digging the fact the Phantom can be worn OWB and IWB.

They are very nice! Mine I used for work (iwb) with a g19. Even with a muffin top I never noticed it was there. My friend also had his built for 226 with a surefire x300 attached. He said that he doesn't notice it either.

Remo 01-16-2013 10:14 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
Shot 100 percent yesterday on my concealed qual, love my M&P!!

Attachment 12986

J0eybb 01-16-2013 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1781839)
Don't forget the added cost of $200 for the ATF tax stamp and waiting 6-9 months for the paperwork to be processed. :sad

Well worth it for an SBR.

They also have a 6.5" barrel with 9.5" muzzle break, MPX-C. This allows you to have the gun and shoot it while you wait on your suppressor sleeve.

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/w...-C-600x344.jpg

Jefft72 01-16-2013 10:59 AM

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Congrats on passing with flying colors! I am interested in pursuing my chl as well as my first handgun purchase. I need to get to the range and try a few out. The M&P is definitely on my list to test fire.

What is yours chambered in? (nvm, I looked at the bigger picture that you attached and see that is is the 9c)

What factors came into play in deciding the caliber?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1782172)
Shot 100 percent yesterday on my concealed qual, love my M&P!!

Attachment 12986


emopunker2004 01-16-2013 11:00 AM

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I'm just gonna fill out my paperwork and throw a 10-11 in barrel on it when the stamp comes back.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefft72 (Post 1782195)
Congrats on passing with flying colors! I am interested in pursuing my chl as well as my first handgun purchase. I need to get to the range and try a few out. The M&P is definitely on my list to test fire.

What is yours chambered in? (nvm, I looked at the bigger picture that you attached and see that is is the 9c)

What factors came into play in deciding the caliber?

Capacity, "stopping power", cost of ammo, what you shoot best.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 11:04 AM

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The Rifle

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8211/8...29f19bc8_c.jpg
IMG_1515 by emopunker2004, on Flickr


The Carry Gun

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8371/8...5cb145a9_c.jpg
IMG_1513 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8097/8...ba76b69f_c.jpg
IMG_1512 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Remo 01-16-2013 11:09 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefft72 (Post 1782195)
Congrats on passing with flying colors! I am interested in pursuing my chl as well as my first handgun purchase. I need to get to the range and try a few out. The M&P is definitely on my list to test fire.

What is yours chambered in? (nvm, I looked at the bigger picture that you attached and see that is is the 9c)

What factors came into play in deciding the caliber?

Just have always carried a 9mm full size and compact, gets the job done.

Remo 01-16-2013 11:09 AM

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Rifle looks good Justin:tu

Jefft72 01-16-2013 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1782200)
Just have always carried a 9mm full size and compact, gets the job done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782197)
Capacity, "stopping power", cost of ammo, what you shoot best.

Thanks for the responses. That jives with what I have read in researching the topic. So long as you can put sufficient lead on target (9mm,.40,.45) all will do the job. And there is no substitute for trigger time.

Remo 01-16-2013 11:14 AM

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I just noticed that the M&P Shield has a safety, I guess that is a new feature? Mine is tha M&P 9c no safety, why would you want a safety on a carry gun like that? Not like its a 1911

Remo 01-16-2013 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefft72 (Post 1782205)
Thanks for the responses. That jives with what I have read in researching the topic. So long as you can put sufficient lead on target (9mm,.40,.45) all will do the job. And there is no substitute for trigger time.

As long as you shoot it well and puts rounds where they need to be most anything will work, hell .22's are deadly!!

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 11:19 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1782206)
I just noticed that the M&P Shield has a safety, I guess that is a new feature? Mine is tha M&P 9c no safety, why would you want a safety on a carry gun like that? Not like its a 1911

Some of the fullsize M&Ps do too. Just leave it off

Remo 01-16-2013 11:20 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782212)
Some of the fullsize M&Ps do too. Just leave it off

I knew the .45 had a safety, oh well, odd.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 11:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
The only gun I have with a safety is my AR :r

I love my Kahr's trigger. So much better than the glock or M&P and I love Glocks

elderboy02 01-16-2013 11:53 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I hate guns with safeties. The only safety anyone should ever use and rely on is their finger.

Remo 01-16-2013 12:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1782226)
I hate guns with safeties. The only safety anyone should ever use and rely on is their finger.

Finger and the stuff between their ears!! But then again, maybe people do need safety's. :r

Digs 01-16-2013 12:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1782236)
Finger and the stuff between their ears!! But then again, maybe people do need safety's. :r

I have said this many times! How many times you hear about an accidental shooting followed by "I thought the safety was on!"

Remo 01-16-2013 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1782241)
I have said this many times! How many times you hear about an accidental shooting followed by "I thought the safety was on!"

Yup! :r

Blueface 01-16-2013 12:41 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Two of my six guns have a safety.
One of them, I am glad as it is my wife's Sig P238 and to me, that is an example of of wanting a safety, given it should be carried with hammer cocked. I feel a whole lot better with her having that.
The other is my Shield and the only time I use it is at times whenever I remove it from the holster. There are times I make my wife practice with both weapons, drawing, removing mag, chambering, etc. and I feel a lot warmer and fuzzier with the safety on. In time, as she gets better versed, will see no need for it.
In the holster, with no one else around, no safety.
On the Sig, I find it functional. On the Shield, seldom use it and it is so small and insignificant, don't care if there.

MurphysLaw 01-16-2013 12:48 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I carry my 1911 cocked and locked, wouldn't have it any other way.

Remo 01-16-2013 12:49 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1782258)
I carry my 1911 cocked and locked, wouldn't have it any other way.

Some safeties are needed :tu

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 01:21 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
If the gun is single action only then yes it needs a safety. Otherwise the July saftey needed is to keep your booger hook off the bang switch.

Blueface 01-16-2013 01:30 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782271)
If the gun is single action only then yes it needs a safety. Otherwise the July saftey needed is to keep your booger hook off the bang switch.

Not if you booger hook lefty and shoot righty. :r

spectrrr 01-16-2013 01:48 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
just got notice that my non-windowed pmags from DSG have shipped. (same order as the windowed ones from before)

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 02:45 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Yeh my d&h mags from them did too

spectrrr 01-16-2013 02:52 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1782258)
I carry my 1911 cocked and locked, wouldn't have it any other way.

+1

The kydex holster I use is molded around the safety lever, I CAN'T carry it any other way :)

spectrrr 01-16-2013 03:05 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
damnit....

I was all excited today. Got most of the parts needed for my custom AR upper in today. Enough to start building it at least.

11" Troy alpha rail
14.5" Daniel Defense barrel
YHM 5C2 Comp/hider to pin to the barrel and make it legal.
Low profile Wilson Combat adjustable gas block.
Some random stripped upper that Midway has in stock, etc.


No sign of a BCG yet (it's coming... eventually :rolleyes:), and I still havn't found an in stock barrel nut to buy, but that wasn't going to stop me from playing with the parts :)

so I picked up the barrel, screwed on the comp, and grabbed a tape measure to check the length to the chamber.

"hmm.... that can't be right... I'm a couple inches short..."
*measure barrel*
"twelve inches???"
*check invoice*
"14.5" M4 Carbine 1:7"
*check label on shipping tube*
"5.56, 1:7, 12.5" M4 Carbine"

Son of a ***** :bh

Got it from Brownells, so I know they'll fix it... but erm... you know, there's the slight issue of "WHEN" in this century they might get more stock in! :bh

Ranger_B 01-16-2013 03:45 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Anyone looking at the new Glock 30s. A friend at SHOT sent me some pics today that look pretty nice.

J0eybb 01-16-2013 03:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger_B (Post 1782337)
Anyone looking at the new Glock 30s. A friend at SHOT sent me some pics today that look pretty nice.

I don't like the RTF's. To rough on my girly hands.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 03:55 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well Francis just fill out an ATF form 1 and sbr it haha.

Let me know how u like that Troy rail. Thinking about a 13 or 15 in one in my ar

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 03:58 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I have a friend selling a savage axis xp in .308 with scope sling and 50 rds of ammo. Rifle only has 15rds through it. $400 plus shipping

spectrrr 01-16-2013 04:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1782343)
Well Francis just fill out an ATF form 1 and sbr it haha.

Let me know how u like that Troy rail. Thinking about a 13 or 15 in one in my ar

Can't, I'll be out of the country long before the ATF could ever get around to approving it ;)

J0eybb 01-16-2013 05:17 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1782316)
damnit....

"hmm.... that can't be right... I'm a couple inches short..."
*measure barrel*
"twelve inches???"
*check invoice*
"14.5" M4 Carbine 1:7"
*check label on shipping tube*
"5.56, 1:7, 12.5" M4 Carbine"

Son of a ***** :bh

Got it from Brownells, so I know they'll fix it... but erm... you know, there's the slight issue of "WHEN" in this century they might get more stock in! :bh

A buddy of mine ordered a AR57 upper for his ar in 16.04" and they shipped him the 12" upper. Instead of returning it he now has an AR57 pistol.

emopunker2004 01-16-2013 05:25 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Lol

Digs 01-16-2013 05:30 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1782316)
damnit....

I was all excited today. Got most of the parts needed for my custom AR upper in today. Enough to start building it at least.

11" Troy alpha rail
14.5" Daniel Defense barrel
YHM 5C2 Comp/hider to pin to the barrel and make it legal.
Low profile Wilson Combat adjustable gas block.
Some random stripped upper that Midway has in stock, etc.


No sign of a BCG yet (it's coming... eventually :rolleyes:), and I still havn't found an in stock barrel nut to buy, but that wasn't going to stop me from playing with the parts :)

so I picked up the barrel, screwed on the comp, and grabbed a tape measure to check the length to the chamber.

"hmm.... that can't be right... I'm a couple inches short..."
*measure barrel*
"twelve inches???"
*check invoice*
"14.5" M4 Carbine 1:7"
*check label on shipping tube*
"5.56, 1:7, 12.5" M4 Carbine"

Son of a ***** :bh

Got it from Brownells, so I know they'll fix it... but erm... you know, there's the slight issue of "WHEN" in this century they might get more stock in! :bh

Francis barrel nut
http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=21

Digs 01-16-2013 07:01 PM

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Francis here is another one..:D

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=326240087


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