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emopunker2004 01-09-2013 03:30 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.amazon.com/LED-WeaponLigh.../dp/B00488OLBE

:r

spectrrr 01-09-2013 03:33 AM

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Kids, USE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS. lol . FPSRussia got lucky on that one... REALLY lucky. If you pause it you'll see how close it came to hitting him.

http://youtu.be/SJ8Ndkg8urw?t=3m18s

Robulous78 01-09-2013 03:36 AM

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Holy Crap.... Yea he did get pretty close.... LoL :lr

He has that, get me off camera so I can go sh!t in my pants look on his face at the end...

spectrrr 01-09-2013 03:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robulous78 (Post 1778410)
Holy Crap.... Yea he did get pretty close.... LoL :lr

He has that, get me off camera so I can go sh!t in my pants look on his face at the end...

:r yeah... and no option for retakes or cuts, he had to come up with something to say on the spot.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 03:58 AM

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Francis did you hear? FPS russia manager and arms expert was murdered? :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rgia-road.html

Robulous78 01-09-2013 04:02 AM

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Wow... Wonder what happened... hope they still keep making videos...

spectrrr 01-09-2013 04:20 AM

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yeah, I heard that.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 04:38 AM

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a bunch of conspiracy people think it was anti 2a people that did it

Blueface 01-09-2013 05:05 AM

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Nice Kahr.
Nothing like the beauty of a .45 caliber.
Testosterone rush!!!

spectrrr 01-09-2013 12:40 PM

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just got notification that 10 of my pmags shipped :noon

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 02:02 PM

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Sweet Francis!!

I love the trigger on this kahr! It's even better than the one I had on my cm9

Blueface 01-09-2013 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778618)
just got notification that 10 of my pmags shipped :noon

From who?
Waiting on mine from Midway.

spectrrr 01-09-2013 02:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1778653)
From who?
Waiting on mine from Midway.

DSG arms

I ordered window mags and non window mags. ALL BLACK. The window mags shipped. still waiting on the non window mags.

Blueface 01-09-2013 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778656)
DSG arms

I ordered window mags and non window mags. ALL BLACK. The window mags shipped. still waiting on the non window mags.

Curious.....when did yo place order?

forgop 01-09-2013 02:34 PM

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Picked up my new Shield today. I was going to pick up both, but opted to wait after talking with the guy a multi handgun purchase requires all of the detailed information of type, serial numbers, etc faxed to the state. By waiting 7 days, I avoid that.

Loved the way it shoots. Didn't hit the target much as I missed the steel plate I was shooting at. Missed to the left a lot, so a sight adjustment may be needed. Will wait until I have some trips to the range to see a much bigger trend.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 03:16 PM

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Duane

http://kitup.military.com/2012/08/pi...-training.html

jluck 01-09-2013 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778672)

Good info there! I was going to try to explain some of that but the chart is Way better!:tu

It is amazing how ones shooting can improve with formal training!

Blueface 01-09-2013 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778672)

Great chart.
Duane would try to adjust those sights until blue in the face.
This is one of those "user" errors, not a software issue.:D

forgop 01-09-2013 05:14 PM

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My brother is an experienced shooter and seemed to go left with most of his shots too, so that's why I thought there may be a bit to it. Not disputing I need more practice though. Will look into the chart for sure though.

spectrrr 01-09-2013 07:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blueface (Post 1778658)
curious.....when did yo place order?

12/21

spectrrr 01-09-2013 07:50 PM

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yeah, that chart has helped me a lot.... but I have a long way to go. No doubt that the pistol is my weaker discipline. (not surprising, it's also the harder of the disciplines, and unlike riding a bike, you DO forget how to shoot it well if you don't practice regularly).

spectrrr 01-09-2013 08:04 PM

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DAMNIT - Ordered 500rds of cheap .308 ammo last week for .40/rd, on a 2 week backorder. Just got an email saying it will be a 10 week backorder now, same week I'm planning on leaving the country.... :bh

LOL... they really don't have a clue when anything is coming in...
I just looked on the site for backorder times on that particular ammo. They sell it in boxes of 20 (backordered till 1/28), 240 (backordered till 8/5!), 500 (backordered till 4/1), and 1000 (backordered till 4/1). Of course, none of those dates are the backorder date of 3/15 that the email sent today quoted me! And since those larger pack sizes are made up of smaller boxes... only one of those dates can be accurate!

Well, I'm putting in the backorder for the 1/28 stuff... but I'll probably have to cancel! I'm gonna be bummed if the rifle shows up with no ammo to shoot from it :(

Time to see if sgammo has got anything...
DERP, nope... (well, not unless I want to pay .80 a round)

jluck 01-09-2013 08:48 PM

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I'm looking for a good red dot style sight I want something that still works without battery power, like leupold prisimatic or trijicon tripower. Any other suggestions for me?

Also cost is a factor.

spectrrr 01-09-2013 09:00 PM

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if you want the cheap way to do it without power, you could mount it low enough so it co witnesses the iron sights - assuming you've got folding iron sights.... or irons at all!

jluck 01-09-2013 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778855)
if you want the cheap way to do it without power, you could mount it low enough so it co witnesses the iron sights - assuming you've got folding iron sights.... or irons at all!

I will try to keep sight of the iron but do want a nice sight. Price is a factor but not an absolute deal breaker. I will end up with the leupold more than likely but wanted some other ideas.

CigarSquid 01-09-2013 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778829)
DAMNIT - Ordered 500rds of cheap .308 ammo last week for .40/rd, on a 2 week backorder. Just got an email saying it will be a 10 week backorder now, same week I'm planning on leaving the country.... :bh

LOL... they really don't have a clue when anything is coming in...
I just looked on the site for backorder times on that particular ammo. They sell it in boxes of 20 (backordered till 1/28), 240 (backordered till 8/5!), 500 (backordered till 4/1), and 1000 (backordered till 4/1). Of course, none of those dates are the backorder date of 3/15 that the email sent today quoted me! And since those larger pack sizes are made up of smaller boxes... only one of those dates can be accurate!

Well, I'm putting in the backorder for the 1/28 stuff... but I'll probably have to cancel! I'm gonna be bummed if the rifle shows up with no ammo to shoot from it :(

Time to see if sgammo has got anything...
DERP, nope... (well, not unless I want to pay .80 a round)

I hear ya.. Ordered 1000 rounds of 9mm for about .23/rd.. This was Friday/Saturday.. Still waiting to hear on the order/shipping.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 09:34 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1778723)
My brother is an experienced shooter and seemed to go left with most of his shots too, so that's why I thought there may be a bit to it. Not disputing I need more practice though. Will look into the chart for sure though.

It doesnt have much to do with experience. Each gun is different. I'd get some more trigger time behind this specific gun and then make a decision about the sights. Might help to get some snap caps and have someone load your mag up and place in the gun for you. Then when the gun goes click and not bang you can see if your doing something wrong. :2

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 09:37 PM

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Francis
http://www.freedommunitions.com/category-s/2038.htm

Jared
You wanting a 1x magnifacation sight? IE no magnification?

spectrrr 01-09-2013 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778866)

still too pricy, I'm not willing to pay more than .50/rd for plinker ammo.
Besides, I sacrificed ~1 MOA in accuracy when I got this particular model rifle precisely so that it could shoot the cheap steel cased garbage :tg

jluck 01-09-2013 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778866)
Francis
http://www.freedommunitions.com/category-s/2038.htm

Jared
You wanting a 1x magnifacation sight? IE no magnification?

I want 1x or low powered optic, like 3x at the very most.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 09:43 PM

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Are you looking for no battery? The aimpoint pro is like $370-$400 and is 1x and has a battery life of a gazillion hours. Ok it's like 30,000 hours but thats like 3yrs contantly on.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778867)
still too pricy, I'm not willing to pay more than .50/rd for plinker ammo.
Besides, I sacrificed ~1 MOA in accuracy when I got this particular model rifle precisely so that it could shoot the cheap steel cased garbage :tg

mhm and what good does it do you when The Prez enacts a EO and stops all ammo importation? Guess where the steel **** comes from...

jluck 01-09-2013 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778869)
Are you looking for no battery? The aimpoint pro is like $370-$400 and is 1x and has a battery life of a gazillion hours. Ok it's like 30,000 hours but thats like 3yrs contantly on.

I really want something that will still somewhat work with a dead battery, the leupold prismatic has a etched reticle as a fail safe and I figured others must have done similar.

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 10:03 PM

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i mean if you got money to burn. but i'd think the aimpoint with 3yr batt life plus flip up irons would work great

spectrrr 01-09-2013 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778870)
mhm and what good does it do you when The Prez enacts a EO and stops all ammo importation? Guess where the steel **** comes from...

shush, I can dream, RIGHT? (and in the meantime, my tush is marching to the state capitol on the 19th, I'm not snoozin through this one)

....at that point then, I offer my friend/mentor $$ for his reloading gear, cuz he doesn't shoot matches anymore and might sell :)

Either way, I strongly prefer rifles that are not picky about the ammo I feed them. Picky eaters don't have a lot of place in my house! Because, you know, if the uhh, zombies ever came, I wouldn't exactly have my choice of ammo, would I?

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 10:11 PM

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sweet. i cant go, i'd love to go though

jluck 01-09-2013 10:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778877)
i mean if you got money to burn. but i'd think the aimpoint with 3yr batt life plus flip up irons would work great

That's why I'm exploring other options, I would rather not pay 500 for a etched piece of glass but will if I have too....maybe.

spectrrr 01-09-2013 10:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1778881)
sweet. i cant go, i'd love to go though

I've never done something like that before. But I figure if ever there was something I personally felt worth of it, this is it! that and the day is open for me, and it's onyl a 1.5hr drive, so I don't have much excuse!

emopunker2004 01-09-2013 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1778883)
That's why I'm exploring other options, I would rather not pay 500 for a etched piece of glass but will if I have too....maybe.

$400+ like $75 for a set of Magpul BUIS
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778884)
I've never done something like that before. But I figure if ever there was something I personally felt worth of it, this is it! that and the day is open for me, and it's onyl a 1.5hr drive, so I don't have much excuse!

Oh yeh you're way closer than me :r

emopunker2004 01-10-2013 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778878)
shush, I can dream, RIGHT? (and in the meantime, my tush is marching to the state capitol on the 19th, I'm not snoozin through this one)

....at that point then, I offer my friend/mentor $$ for his reloading gear, cuz he doesn't shoot matches anymore and might sell :)

Either way, I strongly prefer rifles that are not picky about the ammo I feed them. Picky eaters don't have a lot of place in my house! Because, you know, if the uhh, zombies ever came, I wouldn't exactly have my choice of ammo, would I?

I love pissing on your parade :r

forgop 01-10-2013 06:03 AM

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My brother reloads his own ammo and I saw his setup yesterday. He couldn't believe I paid $100 for 200 rounds of the 40S&W practice rounds I picked up at Gander Mountain. He said if I picked up the powder, he'd load me some. His preference is for Winchester 231 and for 8#, he'll load me 800 rounds.

Best price I've seen thus far is at Mid South Shooters Supply at $160 shipped, so I just pulled the trigger. Backorder on the powder is ~ 10 days according to the site.

forgop 01-10-2013 06:06 AM

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I'm not a twitter geek by any means, but I searched AR-15 and saw that there are over 1M PMAG's on backorder now. Just imagine what that number is when you figure all manufacturers of 30 round magazines.

spectrrr 01-10-2013 06:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1778981)
My brother reloads his own ammo and I saw his setup yesterday. He couldn't believe I paid $100 for 200 rounds of the 40S&W practice rounds I picked up at Gander Mountain. He said if I picked up the powder, he'd load me some. His preference is for Winchester 231 and for 8#, he'll load me 800 rounds.

Best price I've seen thus far is at Mid South Shooters Supply at $160 shipped, so I just pulled the trigger. Backorder on the powder is ~ 10 days according to the site.

If I get into 3gun next year, there's no doubt I'll need to start reloading my won.

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1778982)
I'm not a twitter geek by any means, but I searched AR-15 and saw that there are over 1M PMAG's on backorder now. Just imagine what that number is when you figure all manufacturers of 30 round magazines.

:r that's a huge number....

good luck confiscating all of em!

http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/r...Armory+Blog%29

dijit 01-10-2013 06:20 AM

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You should take a look at Vitha Vhori (sp) powder really clean and even burn so you get better muzzle velocities without a weapon rending increase in chamber pressures. For Pistols 3N37 is a very good choice and for medium to large bore rifles N300.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1778986)
If I get into 3gun next year, there's no doubt I'll need to start reloading my won.



:r that's a huge number....

good luck confiscating all of em!

http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/r...Armory+Blog%29


Blueface 01-10-2013 06:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1778982)
I'm not a twitter geek by any means, but I searched AR-15 and saw that there are over 1M PMAG's on backorder now. Just imagine what that number is when you figure all manufacturers of 30 round magazines.

It was just in the news. Amazing number.

emopunker2004 01-10-2013 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1778990)
It was just in the news. Amazing number.

And the number of guns bought in 2012 borders 3,000,000! Obama certainly helped out the firearm industry's bottom line lol

Digs 01-10-2013 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1779003)
And the number of guns bought in 2012 borders 3,000,000! Obama certainly helped out the firearm industry's bottom line lol


Justin think that number maybe a little low - 2,900,000 back ground checks in December alone!!! Up almost 50% from the previous record in December 2008.

No doubt Barrack Hussein Obama is the top firearms sales person of all times ;)

spectrrr 01-10-2013 09:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
2,900,000 background checks, and that's not counting multiple purchases on one check :)

forgop 01-10-2013 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1779089)
2,900,000 background checks, and that's not counting multiple purchases on one check :)

Yep-my call yesterday was for the Shield and 2 stripped lowers. There will be another call made though when I pick up my other Shield in a week though.

forgop 01-10-2013 09:48 AM

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Question for any of you who have picked up multiple items at a FFL:

Have you been charged for each item or just per call? I was expecting to pay $25 for each item, but he only charges $25 for all of it as he charges by the call, not the number of items.


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