Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I've got a RockRiver arms one that you could try out sometime. I love it fun and cheap to shoot, plus it makes a cool "crack" sound when fired. I'm looking to get a Glock based one as soon as I can Sub2K but preferably a double diamond or lone wolf.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

My ffl told me he sold a couple of his personal ar stripped lowers for $500 each.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Lawn isn't very mobile either ;)

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I like the LW but it's pricey. Wouldn't building a AR based one (assuming one can get a AR lower) with a CMMG upper be better since it gives the option to switch to a .22 or .223 upper later?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Talk about a profit. I'm going out today or tomorrow to buy one....at much much lower price :r

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Good luck finding one :r

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Ok so I have a question that is possibly unanswerable with the information I have, perhaps you fella's can help me...

My Dad recently got a steal on a Colt AR-15, its an early model, triangular handguard and all, the guy told my Pop's its a .223... Does this mean its also good for 5.56 NATO?

More or less just curious, Don't really have much more info to give you guys on it but perhaps you can tell me what to look for to see if it does?

Thanks Guys...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Grab me on too!

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Yes, .223 is 5.56 NATO

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I thought that there was a powder difference between the rounds? So if it takes one then it can also handle the other? was just wondering because I know you don't shoot .357 in a .38 ...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Obviously I know that .357 .38 aren't rifle calibers, I just use that as an example because I know that a pistol billed as a .357 can fire .38 but not the other way around...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

There IS a difference between .223rem and 5.56 NATO, a quick google search will give you a plethora of articles explaining the difference. From my understanding 5.56 NATO does produce higher pressures in the chamber than .223rem. That being said, most AR varients will run both .223Rem and 5.56 with no issues. I've ran 1000s of rounds of each through my RRA AR-15 and never had a problem.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

.38 and .357 are dimensionally different cartridges (rounds).A 357 is too long to fit in a .38 revolvers cylinder .223 and 5.56 NATO are dimensionally the same round that's the difference.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Thats pretty much what I am wondering due to the fact it is such an old model... This thing is probably early 80's at its youngest... Also, as with any rifle, I wonder about seals and gaskets and what-not... I know the springs have been replaced recently, not too sure about anything else...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

What's the barrel marked? U can shoot .223 and 5.56 in a 5.56 barrel. Do Not shoot 5.56 in a .223 barrel!!!!!

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

http://youtu.be/juUJdzFFORs

This one is mobile!!

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

So there is a marking on the barrel that should tell me this? Thanks Justin this is the answer I am looking for... Where is this marking typically located?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

If the barrel doesn't say 5.56 is it just a simple matter of changing out the barrel to make it into a 5.56 or is there more to it then that?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Can you elaborate on this?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Typically it's marked between the front sight and flash hider in that area but could be on the underside. If not, remove the handguards and look at the rest of the barrel. Something like
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95...ics/barrel.jpg

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

5.56 barrel/chamber has more of a leade vs 223. It's has something to do with the pressures.
http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Rob, granted most ammo u will find will be .223 anyway

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Thanks... :tu I'll have my Pop's take a look and see what he got... He bought it from a friend for 400.00 either way its a decent deal I'd say...

Next question... My dad has it in his head that it is worth more because it is the original civilian version made by Colt... is this true? Does it need to be kept as is or is there no harm in modifying it? He seems to think this Triangular handguard is something special... other then making it look older I don't see anything special about it...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I would say its possibly worth more depending. Best bet would be to ask over on ar15.com and post good pictures of the rifle and the markings on the lower receiver. Or send me the pix and ill ask

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I'll definitely take you up on this... It might be a month or 2 before I see him again and can take pictures but I'll definitely send em your way.... I just wanna know if it was a decent deal for my Pop's and if this rifle is better left as a dinosaur or if I should mod it out...

Thanks Justin... :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

sounds like a good deal to me.

The caliber will also be located on the bottom half of the rifle on the side of the magazine well, IF the rifle is 100% original parts from the factory. If someone changed out the barrel at a later date, then the markings on the side oft he mag well don't mean anything.

Now, depending on how far back that AR dates, it is worth considerably more than $400, even before all this craziness started. Honestly, you need to ask the guys at ar15.com, but I'll take a stab at what I remember.

The original Colt AR lower had a design "flaw" that made it super easy to convert to full auto. These are commonly referred to as "preban" AR's. Bearing in mind that I don't know jack, there is a decent chance that the AR your dad picked up is one of those. If so, then you would have the most value in selling it as is to a collector and buying yourself a tricked out new AR :)

BTW, ALL of the preban lowers I'm looking at right now in the gunbroker.com history all are marked .223 caliber, so I'd stay away from 5.56 ammo for now.
ALL of the preban AR's I'm looking at also have a round handguard, even the one dated all the way back to 1977, so like I said, you're really going to have to post pictures for the ar15.com guys that know their stuff in order to correctly ID it. But I definitely wouldn't do anything to it until then.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Definitely won't, all we have done to it so far is give it a good field-strip cleaning and put a few .223 rounds through it... I will get all sort of pictures of it when I go visit next time... It was a PD- swat weapon from early 80's if the story is correct... he let it go for so cheap because he was hurting for money... This was a few months ago but my Dad just showed it to me recently... I bet he is kicking himself in the ass right now... :lr

Another reason I ask is because I am left handed and I want a Left-handed AR... from what I understand this one is either not convertible or is to valuable as-is to convert for my left-handedness... All I know is that it feels like a toy shooting .223 through it... I am pretty sure a 9mm has more kick...:lr

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

It does give you the option of using different uppers by not choosing a dedicated lower receiver.

My RRA 9mm uses a magblock, made by rock river, that uses colt style magazines. I can remove the magblock and go back to .223 or even 22 and whatever in between. The only reason that I would like a dedicated lower for Glocks, is I have a crap ton of Glock mags and when going to the range I can shoot both the Glock and the carbine without having to carry extra mags. Plus I believe they may be offering .40 and 357sig too.

If you want to try an AR-22, I can let you try one of those out as well :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Thanks the input and offer Greg. I was planning to get a .22 AR until I found out about the pistol caliber rifles. Either way, it'll be hard to find any 9mm and larger carbines with the frenzy going on now.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Even more mobile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_lnq0HYBQE

Dare I say the ultimate in home defense?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Ok guys here's the pictures of the Kahr CW45. I have medium hands for reference in the 2nd picture.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8044/8...4a218da4_c.jpg
Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8094/8...e07492cb_c.jpg
Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Great looking pistol Justin :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Thanks Brian. It's a little smaller than a Glock 19/23 but its thinner cuz it's single stack like a 1911. It's 6+1 of 45ACP :D

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I like my Kahr, wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

No doubt.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Finally picking up my 4 of my lowers tomorrow (along with the 2 Shields). Keeping just 1 stripped lower, listing the other 3 for $450 obo and then listing my extra Shield for $650 obo.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Looks good Justin :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Good luck getting that for the Shield. It's not a Hi-cap gun so i don't think you'll get much more than retail. if you do then good. You should be able to get that for the lowers

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Looks good. I am doing my research for something for the wife. Not sure if I/She wants a 9mm or revolver.

9mm would be nice, since the ammo will be simple.. I buy it already.

Revolver, less trouble and pretty much to the point.. She has trouble with the slide at times.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I would say the smaller the pistol, usually the harder the slide is to manipulate, obviously caliber is factored into this as well. :2

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Well...
ATF Form 1 completed in duplicate.
Trust complete. Just need to have it notarized and witnessed.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Nice Justin :tu
And rockin my favorite series of EDC lights too :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Yep that's my EDC/Work light :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

Hey Justin, you ever sleep or is it all Cigars and Guns for you... LoL :lr

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

The joys of working the graveyard shift brother! :tu

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

I am typically right there with ya on that... but for the last 2 week schedule they have had me on days... I miss all my f-off time... :lr

this morning I simply find myself un-tired...thinking about the merits of firing up a stick and knocking out a little house-cleaning... doubt it will happen tho... LoL

So, not to ask too personal of a question, but seeing as your pretty much a resident of this thread I feel compelled to ask... How large is your collection? so large you break it down into rifles, pistols, and other-such?

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

My current collection is small. I have the handgun posted, my ar, my wife's ar, her revolver and we each have a mosin nagant. so 6 total between us. i've owned several different revolvers and pistols that i've sold off to use the money for other things and then bought new guns later.

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

As much as I see you on here I thought you might be on your way to opening your own shop... :lr

So, know of any bada$$ accessories for a Mossberg 500? or to be more specific, any accessories for a Mossberg 500 that aren't made of cheap plastic? :lr

I love my shotgun, but all the accessories I find for it seem to be either overpriced, poorly made, or a mixture of the 2...

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

it's a shotgun dude. only accessory u need is ammo...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/974...ynthetic-black

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 

LoL, true... but I still think a flashlight would be a sensible addition...