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jluck 01-06-2013 03:49 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1776582)
Guess this is one way to jump start the economy, start a gun control debate.

Finally a stimulus plan that works....:r

emopunker2004 01-06-2013 03:49 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Can't wait for my pj holster to come in

Blueface 01-06-2013 04:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1776835)
Can't wait for my pj holster to come in

What do you have on order?
I am waiting for a replacement for my LCP as gave mine to my son for his that was recently purchased. Gave son both the holster and mag holder and ordered new ones for me.
10 days into the order but Paul is now running 4 weeks out rather than his usual 2-3.
I absolutely love his stuff. Simplest, lightest, most unnoticeable of all holsters.
Here is my Shield's.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACEC56ECB6.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACF433DABB.jpg

emopunker2004 01-06-2013 04:07 PM

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He's making one for my kahr cw45. I had one for my cm9 when I had one and loved it

Blueface 01-06-2013 04:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1776851)
He's making one for my kahr cw45. I had one for my cm9 when I had one and loved it

It's like going "commando".:r

Remo 01-06-2013 04:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1776849)
What do you have on order?
I am waiting for a replacement for my LCP as gave mine to my son for his that was recently purchased. Gave son both the holster and mag holder and ordered new ones for me.
10 days into the order but Paul is now running 4 weeks out rather than his usual 2-3.
I absolutely love his stuff. Simplest, lightest, most unnoticeable of all holsters.
Here is my Shield's.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACEC56ECB6.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACF433DABB.jpg


Those are pretty slick!!!

Blueface 01-06-2013 04:19 PM

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Check out a profile photo.
"Commando"!!!:r

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACF09244F3.jpg

Remo 01-06-2013 04:39 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1776858)
Check out a profile photo.
"Commando"!!!:r

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ACF09244F3.jpg

Ya, I really like those :tu

emopunker2004 01-06-2013 04:41 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Yeh mike those holsters weigh nothing

Remo 01-06-2013 05:08 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1776871)
Yeh mike those holsters weigh nothing

Maybe a bday gift!

spectrrr 01-06-2013 06:00 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1776882)
Maybe a bday gift!

So your birthday is tomorrow then I take it? :cool:

Remo 01-06-2013 07:02 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1776901)
So your birthday is tomorrow then I take it? :cool:

:r

CigarSquid 01-06-2013 09:05 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I probably missed the train... But where can I find some 9mm ammo online. I have checked a few places that I had bookmarked. Even some brands I never heard of.. are all gone.

Remo 01-06-2013 09:36 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777038)
I probably missed the train... But where can I find some 9mm ammo online. I have checked a few places that I had bookmarked. Even some brands I never heard of.. are all gone.

Try cheaper than dirt

CigarSquid 01-06-2013 09:53 PM

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Thanks.. Checking now.

Remo 01-06-2013 09:57 PM

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I think bear on a rock has ammo also.

spectrrr 01-06-2013 10:23 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777038)
I probably missed the train... But where can I find some 9mm ammo online. I have checked a few places that I had bookmarked. Even some brands I never heard of.. are all gone.

depends on whether you need it NOW or later. If you need it now, then you have to buy it from one of the big name companies. all the small websites are running behind on shipping anything for 1-4 weeks, even if its showing in stock. The big websites have a bit more of a modular operation and were able to ramp up shipping smoother, they're still shipping on time if they have it. And they'll tell you when they think they'll have it back in stock.

If you're content with it later, then you have even more options from lots of different small companies.

http://www.slickguns.com/category/ammo
http://www.sportsmansguide.con
http://www.cabelas.com
http://www.midwayusa.com
http://www.brownels.com

I picked up some of this stuff cheap, $11 a box for Aguila 9mm 124gr FMJ (read good enough stuff about em), but it won't ship for another 4 weeks.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=282526

CigarSquid 01-06-2013 10:30 PM

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Thanks. I'm in no hurry for it.

Blueface 01-07-2013 03:19 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777061)
Thanks. I'm in no hurry for it.

My favorite ammo supplier.
Check daily as supply changes as much as twice a day lately.
www.sgammo.com

dijit 01-07-2013 04:34 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777061)
Thanks. I'm in no hurry for it.

Gary if you werent so far out in the sticks I would say come over we will make you a few thousand rounds of 9mm. I have about 4k rounds of brass and about 1500 bullets 124 gr FMJ would only take a few hours to run those off.

spectrrr 01-07-2013 06:13 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I need to get a loader one of these days...

CigarSquid 01-07-2013 06:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1777115)
Gary if you werent so far out in the sticks I would say come over we will make you a few thousand rounds of 9mm. I have about 4k rounds of brass and about 1500 bullets 124 gr FMJ would only take a few hours to run those off.

That would be awesome. Why do you have to live so far?

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 06:33 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looking for ammo? Try here
Ammotogo.com
Wideners.com
Sgammo.com
Palmettostatearmory.com
Aimsurplus.com
Freedommunitions.com
Luckygunner.com
Natchezss.com

CigarSquid 01-07-2013 06:45 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Have you guys shot/used the Blazer Brass brand?

Blueface 01-07-2013 06:56 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777149)
Have you guys shot/used the Blazer Brass brand?

I have. Just once.
Shot 124 gr 9mm.
No flaws other than found it to be the dirtiest ammo I have ever shot. Same for friend that was with me who was a trainer at academy.
Not sure if we had a bad batch or that is the norm but have not bought it as result of that day at the range.
Our hands were literally black when we were done.

CigarSquid 01-07-2013 07:33 AM

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I ended up with this. Says about a month out.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...Tz_l%3DProduct

Blueface 01-07-2013 07:43 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777175)
I ended up with this. Says about a month out.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/produ...Tz_l%3DProduct

I use Winchester quite a bit and like it for range ammo.
If you want it quicker than a month out, check SGammo daily. Stuff on there all the time and cheaper than Cabela's.
Very fast shipping.

CigarSquid 01-07-2013 07:51 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I will have to check that.. I don't see them on there now.

They have the 1000 rounds Federal JHP for almost, just a bit higher than the Winchester at cabelas. I do not want to just shoot JHP, but for the same price, why not?

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 07:58 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777149)
Have you guys shot/used the Blazer Brass brand?

BB is good cheap ammo. Its dirty but runs great

spectrrr 01-07-2013 08:55 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Although I had previously "heard" of 3gun, I had never watched a video before today. I'm hooked. I want to do it. RIGHT NOW. I think I found my new hobby when I return to the states next year. That should make the wife REALLLLY happy :r

There's a match up in my neck of the woods end of the month, I'll try to get up there and see what its like. before I leave...

spectrrr 01-07-2013 09:15 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
an AR mag with a numerical countdown indicator? GENIUS!
I'm surprised these aren't more popular here in the US...

http://store.commandarms.com/products/CDMAG.html

Remo 01-07-2013 09:24 AM

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I have seen those, cool idea :tu

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 09:25 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Still waiting for my E-lander mags from Mako to ship. Should hopefully ship within the week.

Blueface 01-07-2013 09:28 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1777242)
Still waiting for my E-lander mags from Mako to ship. Should hopefully ship within the week.

Same here.
Charge hit on my card on Friday.
Hoping that is a sign of processing.

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 09:34 AM

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They're behind on shipping. They have inventory but they just have way to many orders to fill. Mako said they even have family members coming in to help fill orders.

Edit: I placed my order on 12/27

Blueface 01-07-2013 09:38 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1777253)
They're behind on shipping. They have inventory but they just have way to many orders to fill. Mako said they even have family members coming in to help fill orders.

Edit: I placed my order on 12/27

I placed mine on 12/31 so I guess you will be my gauge as to when mine ship.

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 10:32 AM

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I also have a 10-pack of d&h usgi mags with magpul followers back ordered from dsg arms since 12/20

Blueface 01-07-2013 10:44 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1777297)
I also have a 10-pack of d&h usgi mags with magpul followers back ordered from dsg arms since 12/20

I have six from Midway (limit of 2 so ordered 2 of each).

I just got charged today for my Armalite order directly from Armalite for 2 20 and 2 25 mags for .308. That has to be good news that I was charged now when ordered around 12/20. Fingers crossed.

Blueface 01-07-2013 11:32 AM

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Attention AR guys.
Great home defense ammo at great price.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-usa556jf.html

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 11:33 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I'd rather have 75gr TAP :D

Blueface 01-07-2013 11:36 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1777338)
I'd rather have 75gr TAP :D

Agree but anyone wanting a good deal today, not a bad one to have a few boxes of, when not interested in going through walls and houses.:r

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 11:40 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Heck that 40gr Fran ammo would make good steel plinking ammo

spectrrr 01-07-2013 12:01 PM

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I have mixed feelings about frangible ammo. If it's going to break up before going through a wall, odds are that it may have spent a lot of it's energy already by the time it gets through a leather jacket and only create a superficial wound. Not good IMO :(


I put all my eggs in the pmag basket from DSG... hope that doesn't backfire on me!

Blueface 01-07-2013 12:13 PM

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This should add an interesting mix to the debate of high capacity mags and Glock type guns.
Put five out of six fired rounds in assailant.
Guy made out of house and is alive and well in hospital.
Imagine if more assailants, she could have been dead, along with her children.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1234400

And to think I wonder if a loaded AR with 30 rounds, a loaded Glock with 13 and an extra mag loaded, a loaded LCP and a loaded Shield are enough.

dijit 01-07-2013 12:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1777137)
That would be awesome. Why do you have to live so far?

I live here in the sticks because no one looks at me odd for building bullets or carrying firearms. The city cop next door gets a little bent when I test fire a round in the back yard though. lol

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 02:32 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1777367)
I live here in the sticks because no one looks at me odd for building bullets or carrying firearms. The city cop next door gets a little bent when I test fire a round in the back yard though. lol

Just bribe him with a few boolits

spectrrr 01-07-2013 02:42 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
hmm... I must be missing something here.

I picked up a Sightmark red dot scope after reading good reviews around the web, my FIRST red dot sight.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i03

Build quality seems good enough, good field of view, mostly visible red dot (bright sunlight and snow like I have here gave it a bit of trouble, but you can still make out the dot, which is all one can expect for under $100.

But here's the problem - correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be, the theory of a red dot is that, similar to a reflex sight, the dot moves around in the window relative to your head position, so it doesn't matter what angle you look through it, the dot is on target, right?

So I set it down on the table, aimed it at the wall 10ft away, and peered through. Eureka, a dot! and I moved my head to the side, Eureka, the dot moved with my head! But wait... the point of aim also moved with my head! Significantly! At only 10ft away, moving my head to the side could adjust the point of aim by approx. 4 inches in either direction!

This effect is generally minimized with a scope which has minimal eye relief, you can't actually see through it unless you're lined up pretty close to center. But with a wide red dot tube like that one, if the point of aim shifts, then how are you supposed to line your head up precisely down the middle to get an accurate shot if it has such a wide viewing angle?

Robulous78 01-07-2013 04:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1777460)
hmm... I must be missing something here.

I picked up a Sightmark red dot scope after reading good reviews around the web, my FIRST red dot sight.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i03

Build quality seems good enough, good field of view, mostly visible red dot (bright sunlight and snow like I have here gave it a bit of trouble, but you can still make out the dot, which is all one can expect for under $100.

But here's the problem - correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be, the theory of a red dot is that, similar to a reflex sight, the dot moves around in the window relative to your head position, so it doesn't matter what angle you look through it, the dot is on target, right?

So I set it down on the table, aimed it at the wall 10ft away, and peered through. Eureka, a dot! and I moved my head to the side, Eureka, the dot moved with my head! But wait... the point of aim also moved with my head! Significantly! At only 10ft away, moving my head to the side could adjust the point of aim by approx. 4 inches in either direction!

This effect is generally minimized with a scope which has minimal eye relief, you can't actually see through it unless you're lined up pretty close to center. But with a wide red dot tube like that one, if the point of aim shifts, then how are you supposed to line your head up precisely down the middle to get an accurate shot if it has such a wide viewing angle?

I've wondered this myself... Anyone?

:po

emopunker2004 01-07-2013 05:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Francis. Why don't u try it actually shooting and see what happens if u move ur head but the dot stays in target?

I'm sure someone on arfcom can answer your question though

CigarSquid 01-07-2013 07:13 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So hard to pull the trigger on the Winchester 9mm ammo. $367.94 shipped, for 1200 rounds of 115gr


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