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icehog3 04-28-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1626944)
Almost let another one get away.
I hadn't realized how much the tigers pen had fallen off.

Valverde has been awful, Benoit shaky, and the rest of them just plain suck. :hn

Jasonw560 04-28-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1626946)
Valverde has been awful, Benoit shaky, and the rest of them just plain suck. :hn

Now you know why the Rangers got rid of Benoit.

jonumberone 04-30-2012 12:29 PM

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Was shocked to see LA come away with a sweep over DC.
Granted, it was without Zimmerman and Morse, their two best offensive players.
I thought DC was legit, but wasn't sure about the Dodgers.
They started off hot against the likes of the Pad's and Buc's, and I thought they were just riding Kemp's hot bat.
They are definitely riding Kemp's bat, but they are playing well across the board!

icehog3 05-07-2012 11:20 PM

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And the Tigers bullpen blows yet another stellar starting performance. If the Tigers had even a mediocre bullpen, they would be in first place.

Blak Smyth 05-08-2012 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1633409)
And the Tigers bullpen blows yet another stellar starting performance. If the Tigers had even a mediocre bullpen, they would be in first place.

I could have used Fister's win on my fantasy team too.

kelmac07 05-08-2012 07:17 AM

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What's everyone think about the Cole Hamels suspension? He admintted to throwing at Harper, which I thought was complete "bush league". Harper has none games under his belt and has played hard and said the right things to the media. Wondering what warranted this beaning???? Are the Phils worried that Harper is stealing some of their thunder? Maybe if they weren't in the cellar of the NL East, they'd get some positive press. :2

CigarSquid 05-08-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1633409)
And the Tigers bullpen blows yet another stellar starting performance. If the Tigers had even a mediocre bullpen, they would be in first place.

I will be seeing them Saturday in Oakland! The way the Tigers have been playing, It should make for a good game.. As long as the A's stay how they have been, as well.

Diamond Seats baby! Right behind home plate!

Jasonw560 05-08-2012 10:13 PM

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Josh Hamilton. 4 HRs in one game. 18 bases. If he stays healthy, it could be a race to see if either he or Kemp can win the all-elusive Triple Crown.

icehog3 05-08-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonw560 (Post 1634152)
Josh Hamilton. 4 HRs in one game. 18 bases. If he stays healthy, it could be a race to see if either he or Kemp can win the all-elusive Triple Crown.

Amazing game for Hamilton.

Stephen 05-09-2012 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasonw560 (Post 1634152)
Josh Hamilton. 4 HRs in one game. 18 bases. If he stays healthy, it could be a race to see if either he or Kemp can win the all-elusive Triple Crown.

They could both win one this season. They play in different leagues.

Bigwaved 05-09-2012 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1633532)
Wondering what warranted this beaning????

Fear.

Blak Smyth 05-09-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1633532)
What's everyone think about the Cole Hamels suspension? He admintted to throwing at Harper, which I thought was complete "bush league". Harper has none games under his belt and has played hard and said the right things to the media. Wondering what warranted this beaning???? Are the Phils worried that Harper is stealing some of their thunder? Maybe if they weren't in the cellar of the NL East, they'd get some positive press. :2

Didn't Harper steal home? I would guess it was an immature gesture to teach Bryce a lesson?

Bigwaved 05-09-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1627937)
Was shocked to see LA come away with a sweep over DC.
Granted, it was without Zimmerman and Morse, their two best offensive players.
I thought DC was legit, but wasn't sure about the Dodgers.
They started off hot against the likes of the Pad's and Buc's, and I thought they were just riding Kemp's hot bat.
They are definitely riding Kemp's bat, but they are playing well across the board!

A blown save and no offense could not overcome the great starting pitching (both squads got solid starts all series). The Nats handed another one away last night with a walk-off dinger to the Pirates. They need Storen and Lidge back to get H-rod out of the closer spot. He stresses out and loses the little control has has harnessed. Zimmerman and LaRoche returned last night, but Werth is not gone for at least 12 weeks and Morse is still a ways out. They will not have their full roster available until way after the All-star game. They will be facing a decision with when to shut down Strasburg the last 3rd of the season as well.

Blak Smyth 05-09-2012 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigwaved (Post 1634228)
A blown save and no offense could not overcome the great starting pitching (both squads got solid starts all series). The Nats handed another one away last night with a walk-off dinger to the Pirates. They need Storen and Lidge back to get H-rod out of the closer spot. He stresses out and loses the little control has has harnessed. Zimmerman and LaRoche returned last night, but Werth is not gone for at least 12 weeks and Morse is still a ways out. They will not have their full roster available until way after the All-star game. They will be facing a decision with when to shut down Strasburg the last 3rd of the season as well.

I hope Storen is back soon, I have him on my Fantasy DL.

jonumberone 05-09-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1634227)
Didn't Harper steal home? I would guess it was an immature gesture to teach Bryce a lesson?

Hamels threw at Harper to say "welcome to the big leagues"
Harper stole home after the fact.
I honestly have no issue with it, and don't think he deserved the suspension.
I even like the comments Hamels made afterwards, and agree with him.
Pitchers like Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale threw at guys all the time.
No one called them bush, and both are in the hall.
I think baseball would be served well if the pitchers are allowed to take back the plate.
I also believe there is a right way and a wrong way to hit someone.

CigarSquid 05-09-2012 07:05 AM

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Brandon Inge, walk off grand slam last night in Oakland. I think I scared my neighbor since it was kinda late when that game ended.

Blak Smyth 05-09-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1634247)
Hamels threw at Harper to say "welcome to the big leagues"
Harper stole home after the fact.
I honestly have no issue with it, and don't think he deserved the suspension.
I even like the comments Hamels made afterwards, and agree with him.
Pitchers like Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale threw at guys all the time.
No one called them bush, and both are in the hall.
I think baseball would be served well if the pitchers are allowed to take back the plate.
I also believe there is a right way and a wrong way to hit someone.

I was wondering if the steal was before or after, kinda makes it cooler on Harper's end that he stole home after the hit. I don't think Hamel's should have lied about it being intentional, I like that he was honest about it.
Honestly you pay me millions of dollars and I will take a couple shots from Hamels :tu

Bigwaved 05-09-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1634229)
I hope Storen is back soon, I have him on my Fantasy DL.

He may start throwing by the end of this week.

Bigwaved 05-09-2012 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1634247)
Hamels threw at Harper to say "welcome to the big leagues"
Harper stole home after the fact.
I honestly have no issue with it, and don't think he deserved the suspension.
I even like the comments Hamels made afterwards, and agree with him.
Pitchers like Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale threw at guys all the time.
No one called them bush, and both are in the hall.
I think baseball would be served well if the pitchers are allowed to take back the plate.
I also believe there is a right way and a wrong way to hit someone.

Hamels is no Gibson or Drysdale. They did not need to run their mouth about where they threw the ball or why. That was the rub with this one. That was the "bush" part of it. The suspension was a direct response to his big mouth. His pie hole forced them to do it.

jonumberone 05-09-2012 04:47 PM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Bigwaved (Post 1634563)
Hamels is no Gibson or Drysdale. They did not need to run their mouth about where they threw the ball or why. That was the rub with this one. That was the "bush" part of it. The suspension was a direct response to his big mouth. His pie hole forced them to do it.

While I agree Hamels is no Gibson or Drysdale, part of what made them so great was their ability to pitch inside and intimidate hitters.
That is a tool not available to today's pitchers.

They were mean, nasty, and fierce competitors.
Gibson once threw at Reggie Jackson in an old timers day.
And they always ran their mouth to the players they hit.

Here are some quotes

"I hated to bat against (Don) Drysdale. After he hit you he'd come around, look at the bruise on your arm and say, 'Do you want me to sign it?'" - Mickey Mantle

"My own little rule was two for one. If one of my teammates got knocked down, then I knocked down two on the other team." - Don Drysdale

I couldn't find any direct quotes from Gibson, but it was never a mystery as to what he did on the mound.
I think the big difference is today, Harper getting hit is a story, 50 years ago it would have only been a footnote.

I also don't see how fans aren't upset about the pitch, just what was said.
Iv'e always admired straight shooters and try not to waste my time with people who look me in the eye and lie to me. :2


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