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Cigarcop 08-07-2012 11:58 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I just finished up two builds in .308 both are identical except for the stocks, These are gifts for my son Cole and Godson Zach prior to this years hunting season. Heres a few pics of Coles.

First truing up the action

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...cop/AJig-1.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...rcop/true2.jpg

Dialing in the Chamber

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/IMG_0168.jpg

Facing off the tennon to length after threading it

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/IMG_0169.jpg

one of me of course!!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/IMG_0171.jpg

Cigarcop 08-07-2012 11:59 AM

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Now onto pillar bedding the actions into the stocks and some minor milling for clean up

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...olesbedjob.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...lesbedjob2.jpg

The rifle all assembled, I just need to Cerakote the metal work

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/IMG_0260.jpg

and a 3 shot group at 100 Yrds to make sure it went Boom!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...olestarget.jpg

elderboy02 08-07-2012 12:04 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Very cool! :tu

bonjing 08-07-2012 12:17 PM

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Wow!

Cigarcop 08-07-2012 12:23 PM

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Thanks guys, Heres a pic of Zachs rifle and target...unfortunately I shanked the last shot a bit left but still not bad!!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...Zachsrifle.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...achstarget.jpg

Blueface 08-07-2012 03:55 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
That is amazing!!!

big a 08-07-2012 10:38 PM

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Those are some very nice builds up there. Very jealous!

I'm very new to the ar world but found this one local for what seems to be a good price. Any input on the parts used or anything to watch out for? Just looking for something to take out a couple time a year, nothing crazy.

"Ar15 Plum Crazy complete polymer lower- Upper is custom built from jsesurples.com, Flat top M4 upper, 5.56/.223, 16 inch BD chormoly 1:9 twist barrel, yhm phantom flash hider, Utg removable carry handle, utg 2pc quad rail hand guards, Miltary style grip pod, and comes with one 30rd mag"

Woodey 08-07-2012 11:01 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...123/retro4.jpg
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...23/photo16.jpg
A little Retro 80% action

themoneycollector 08-07-2012 11:12 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
very cool pics Keith, thanks for sharing

LockOut 08-08-2012 08:28 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
id love to learn to me a smith. That looks awesome.

bonjing 08-08-2012 09:17 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
One of these days I'm going to have to learn to shoot long range.

awsmith4 08-08-2012 01:54 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LockOut (Post 1696101)
id love to learn to me a smith. That looks awesome.

Being a Smith is awesome...I bet building guns is too. Nice builds Steve!

Cigarcop 08-08-2012 02:54 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 1696321)
Being a Smith is awesome...I bet building guns is too. Nice builds Steve!

I had to read that twice Albert, then I got it!! buts who's Steve!!!:r:r

Steve 08-08-2012 08:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1695619)
I just finished up two builds in .308 both are identical except for the stocks, These are gifts for my son Cole and Godson Zach prior to this years hunting season. Heres a few pics of Coles.

:banger:banger

CigarSquid 08-09-2012 07:47 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Not my first, but my newest and 2nd firearm.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...R/IMAG0315.jpg

jluck 08-09-2012 09:52 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Sweet pistol, Garry.:tu

LockOut 08-09-2012 11:03 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 1696321)
Being a Smith is awesome...I bet building guns is too. Nice builds Steve!

10 Internets to you sir.

Catfish 08-09-2012 12:35 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Love it, Love it, Love it.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=3119

awsmith4 08-09-2012 03:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1696349)
I had to read that twice Albert, then I got it!! buts who's Steve!!!:r:r

Keith, I was just informing Steve what nice builds you had done :D

My bad brother I ought to proof read before I post. Again, great job:tu

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 06:25 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
What are your opinions on some good range ammo for 9mm..

theonlybear4CORT 08-10-2012 06:37 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Walmart wwb( winchester white box) also pmc ammo.

TJarv 08-10-2012 06:43 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
A picture of me shooting one of my favorite guns last winter
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/...v/DSC_2150.jpg

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 06:45 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theonlybear4CORT (Post 1697831)
Walmart wwb( winchester white box) also pmc ammo.

I was using the WWB for my .40.. Was just seeing if something else was out there.. Never heard of PMC, or I just haven't paid attention to it.

TJarv 08-10-2012 07:05 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1697824)
What are your opinions on some good range ammo for 9mm..

I always just go for whats cheapest

Mikepd 08-10-2012 07:16 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
If you are looking for range ammo for getting used to your gun and how it fires and dialing it in, I would suggest what you would regularly load in it. Shooting a different ammo at the range than you would use regularly is like practice batting with a different bat than you would use in a ball game.

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 07:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So you the hollow points I plan on keeping in it?

Totally makes sense Mikepd, 110%

How much can a different ammo affec the shot? To someone like me who has maybe 500 rounds of firing on me.

TJarv 08-10-2012 07:21 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1697862)
So you the hollow points I plan on keeping in it?

Totally makes sense Mikepd, 110%

How much can a different ammo affec the shot? To someone like me who has maybe 500 rounds of firing on me.

The accuracy of a low end ammo compared to high end ammo can be pretty substantial sometimes.

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 07:22 PM

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OK.. Accuracy is the main thing? Any other things I should consider?

TJarv 08-10-2012 07:26 PM

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Since the gun is new to you I would focus on becoming very familiar with the gun first

I like to be able to put my weapon into battery without looking at it. If your in a low light situation, or get into a conflict you wont have time to look at the gun

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 07:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Got ya.. That is my main part too.. This is a smaller gun than I had before. I want to shot way more than I did with the other one. I want to carry this gun, so I want to know it inside and out...

TJarv 08-10-2012 07:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1697871)
Got ya.. That is my main part too.. This is a smaller gun than I had before. I want to shot way more than I did with the other one. I want to carry this gun, so I want to know it inside and out...

If you're going to carry it you should also look into a nice concealment holster and practice your draw pretty frequently

Catfish 08-10-2012 09:04 PM

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Unless you plan on reloading or loading your own rounds, using only carry ammo when you practice is going to start hurting your bank account badly, very quickly.

My wife and I average 300 rounds per practice session. I buy quality 180gr. FMJ practice ammo from Bass Pro Shops at approx. $18 per box of 50. Total with shipping, around $125.

If I was to maintain the same level of practice with my carry ammo (Speer Gold Dot 165gr. JHP), at $25 per box of 20, the average cost of ammunition alone per practice session would be: $375 before shipping.

I've always maintained that a good amount of practice per week is 100 rounds down range. 150 per person per session makes the trip worthwhile and not to mention: Shooting stuff is fun! $400 a week in ammo costs alone would make that impossible.

However, granting the above points... My wife and I BOTH put 1 (16 rounds) magazine of carry ammo down range per trip in order to keep the additional recoil and other factors in mind.

Oh, I also HIGHLY recommend Snap Caps. An EXCELLENT tool for practicing malfunction drills when at home or at the range.

Another reason I love the Springfield XDM. The tactile loaded chamber and cocked firing pin indicators. As long as you can feel the indicators, light or night, you know if your weapon is ready for action.

I hope all this made sense.

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 09:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Snap cap? The fake ammo?

Catfish 08-10-2012 09:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1697925)
Snap cap? The fake ammo?

Yup. Love them. They are absolutely an essential part of my range loadout.

CigarSquid 08-10-2012 09:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I thought about but then yesterday... Wasn't exactly sure on what to do. I'll have to research it.

Catfish 08-10-2012 09:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Also, on the point of practice ammo. I used to find completely blank, white cardboard boxes of ammo at my local gun store. Extremely cheap, too. I disregarded them as probably crap. Boy was I mistaken. I finally asked the guy behind the counter and he told me they were unmarked boxes of Federal FMJ. Like $5 cheaper per box! I was still skeptical until he opened a box. Even had nickel plated casings! When you see a deal, it definitely pays to at least inquire.

Practice ammo i buy: Winchester, American Eagle, PMC, Federal white box when I can find it.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=7219

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 08:32 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Great info. Thanks!

I am hitting the range today.. First time shooting the LC9!

Catfish 08-11-2012 08:44 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Lookin' forward to a report. :tu

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 08:50 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Me too. :D:D

theonlybear4CORT 08-11-2012 09:11 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Pmc 115gr fmj 50rd Box for $10.49

http://www.natchezss.com/Ammo.cfm?co...ronze%2050/Box

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 09:14 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Might have to snag a few of those up

Catfish 08-11-2012 11:18 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theonlybear4CORT (Post 1698099)

Thanks for the lead on another ammo site!! :tu

Steve 08-11-2012 03:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepd (Post 1697858)
If you are looking for range ammo for getting used to your gun and how it fires and dialing it in, I would suggest what you would regularly load in it. Shooting a different ammo at the range than you would use regularly is like practice batting with a different bat than you would use in a ball game.

I had this same discussion on another board.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 1697921)
Unless you plan on reloading or loading your own rounds, using only carry ammo when you practice is going to start hurting your bank account badly, very quickly.

My wife and I average 300 rounds per practice session. I buy quality 180gr. FMJ practice ammo from Bass Pro Shops at approx. $18 per box of 50. Total with shipping, around $125.

If I was to maintain the same level of practice with my carry ammo (Speer Gold Dot 165gr. JHP), at $25 per box of 20, the average cost of ammunition alone per practice session would be: $375 before shipping.

I've always maintained that a good amount of practice per week is 100 rounds down range. 150 per person per session makes the trip worthwhile and not to mention: Shooting stuff is fun! $400 a week in ammo costs alone would make that impossible.

However, granting the above points... My wife and I BOTH put 1 (16 rounds) magazine of carry ammo down range per trip in order to keep the additional recoil and other factors in mind.

Oh, I also HIGHLY recommend Snap Caps. An EXCELLENT tool for practicing malfunction drills when at home or at the range.

Another reason I love the Springfield XDM. The tactile loaded chamber and cocked firing pin indicators. As long as you can feel the indicators, light or night, you know if your weapon is ready for action.

I hope all this made sense.

Agreed!

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 09:59 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
LC9 is awesome! Love the way it feels and shoots. I feel much better with this gun than the Sigma .40 I had.

Not a big shooting day but we(wife and I) put 100 rounds through it. I need to get at least 2 more mag's for it.. Will make it faster to shoot at the range and less time consuming.

Overall, right now, I am VERY please with this purchase. Good money spent, I think!

TJarv 08-11-2012 10:23 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1698328)
LC9 is awesome! Love the way it feels and shoots. I feel much better with this gun than the Sigma .40 I had.

Not a big shooting day but we(wife and I) put 100 rounds through it. I need to get at least 2 more mag's for it.. Will make it faster to shoot at the range and less time consuming.

Overall, right now, I am VERY please with this purchase. Good money spent, I think!

That's important, you have to feel comfortable with the guns you shoot

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 10:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1698336)
That's important, you have to feel comfortable with the guns you shoot

Feel way more comfortable then I did with the sigma.

TJarv 08-11-2012 10:27 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
How was the recoil with the LC9?

I've been a little interested in one

CigarSquid 08-11-2012 10:28 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Not as bad as I thought it would be for how small and light it is.. Compared to the .40, a little less.

Commander Quan 08-12-2012 06:04 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1698328)
Not a big shooting day but we(wife and I) put 100 rounds through it. I need to get at least 2 more mag's for it.. Will make it faster to shoot at the range and less time consuming.

Pick up a Uplula. It makes reloading mags much faster. You can reload a 15 round mag in less than a minute.

Ncpsycho 08-12-2012 07:08 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1698336)
That's important, you have to feel comfortable with the guns you shoot

I had a Sigma .40 it just felt cheap and not well made when fired.....


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