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Prefy 01-28-2009 09:35 PM

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Hey Tom, looks like I have even more reason to make my way to Chicago. My buddy Flats just was hired on as Developmental Goaltending Coach for your beloved Hawks.

smokeyandthebandit05 01-29-2009 07:43 PM

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devils beat boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmokeyJoe 01-29-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 184175)
Devils moved into first place in the Atlantic conference!

Devils are looking pretty solid!

My Hurricanes lost a tough one to the Rangers the other night... but got a nice win at home against the hapless Lightning tonight. Carolina really needs to get their act together if they are going to make the playoffs. The are flirting with not making it... again. :rolleyes:

icehog3 01-30-2009 12:07 AM

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Ladd hasn't scored for a month, Joe, and the Hawks are looking pretty mediocre the last month as well. :mad:

SmokeyJoe 01-30-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 203573)
Ladd hasn't scored for a month, Joe, and the Hawks are looking pretty mediocre the last month as well. :mad:

Ladd is an enigma... got all the skills, but he seems to just "check out" for portions of the season. :confused:

Wish he could get it together.

icehog3 01-30-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 203581)
Ladd is an enigma... got all the skills, but he seems to just "check out" for portions of the season. :confused:

Wish he could get it together.


So do I, Joe! :r

taltos 01-30-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 202867)
devils beat boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tough game to lose last night. Bruins were out skated by the Devils. Nice win for you guys.

bugmenot 01-30-2009 11:21 AM

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Coyotes put up a good fight for the sharks last night. The west is going to be exciting near the end. And now the sharks are in first place in the league! I need to get center ice so I can watch all these games, though I did find a website that streams every pro sport on my computer, it isn't the same watching it on a 12 inch screen.

Prefy 01-30-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 204483)
Coyotes put up a good fight for the sharks last night. The west is going to be exciting near the end. And now the sharks are in first place in the league! I need to get center ice so I can watch all these games, though I did find a website that streams every pro sport on my computer, it isn't the same watching it on a 12 inch screen.

Ya I watch all my sport streaming but I have a 19 inch monitor in my small room hooked up to surround sound so Its not to bad.

I was watching the Panthers Habs Game last night(which the Habs played terrible)...In Florida $17.50 gets you a ticket to the game, parking, and some sort of combo meal(Drink hot dog and chips I think). Talk about an awesome price point and they still can't get any fans down there. It costs more for just a ticket to a Moose game in Winnipeg(AHL) which average around $20. Not to mention parking is $5 bucks and a combo $10ish. Twice as much for hockey that is a level below the NHL...crazy.

On a side note for my Organizational Theory class I'm righting a paper on the NHL's decision to expand in to non-traditional hockey markets.

smokeyandthebandit05 01-30-2009 07:39 PM

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Devils are playin the penguins. Devils trailing 3-2 with 30 seconds to go they score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smokeyandthebandit05 01-30-2009 07:43 PM

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Goin to over time!!! OH god I hope they win!

smokeyandthebandit05 01-30-2009 07:46 PM

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devils winnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

icehog3 01-30-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 205614)
Devils are playin the penguins. Devils trailing 3-2 with 30 seconds to go they score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 205625)
Goin to over time!!! OH god I hope they win!

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 205633)
devils winnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

So...whatcha drinkin', Rich? ;)

Mr.Maduro 01-31-2009 06:25 AM

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How about them Devils!!! :D

smokeyandthebandit05 01-31-2009 09:52 AM

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i had alot of guinness extra stout lol

icehog3 01-31-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 206576)
i had alot of guinness extra stout lol

Then I completely understand! :D :tu :r

bugmenot 01-31-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 204772)
Ya I watch all my sport streaming but I have a 19 inch monitor in my small room hooked up to surround sound so Its not to bad.

I was watching the Panthers Habs Game last night(which the Habs played terrible)...In Florida $17.50 gets you a ticket to the game, parking, and some sort of combo meal(Drink hot dog and chips I think). Talk about an awesome price point and they still can't get any fans down there. It costs more for just a ticket to a Moose game in Winnipeg(AHL) which average around $20. Not to mention parking is $5 bucks and a combo $10ish. Twice as much for hockey that is a level below the NHL...crazy.

On a side note for my Organizational Theory class I'm righting a paper on the NHL's decision to expand in to non-traditional hockey markets.

I'm tempted to pick up a big monitor for when I stream games. I know I would get my monies worth, as that is basically all I watch on tv.

I think in some places it has actually worked out well, and in others, not so much. I don't know what is going through the lightning owner's heads though, it is like they are trying to loose. Trade Boyle and Luckowich, for essentially nothing, and then trade away the player they got for literally nothing. Good thing they got Vincent, but even that isn't helping them.

icehog3 01-31-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 207226)
I'm tempted to pick up a big monitor for when I stream games. I know I would get my monies worth, as that is basically all I watch on tv.

I think in some places it has actually worked out well, and in others, not so much. I don't know what is going through the lightning owner's heads though, it is like they are trying to loose. Trade Boyle and Luckowich, for essentially nothing, and then trade away the player they got for literally nothing. Good thing they got Vincent, but even that isn't helping them.

Maybe they could trade Vinnie to the Blackhawks for essentially nothing? :)

taltos 02-01-2009 05:18 AM

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Big warm up for the stupor bowl today, Bruins at Canadiens. Kick some Canadian butt Boston.:ss

icehog3 02-01-2009 10:36 AM

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Big character win for the Hawks over the Sharks last night, especially after an apparent 2-0 lead became a 1-1 tie over the period of a few seconds. The NHL still has a couple goofy rules on the books, but the Hawks gutted out a tough win.

bugmenot 02-01-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 207392)
Maybe they could trade Vinnie to the Blackhawks for essentially nothing? :)

I wouldn't put it past them. They don't realize that you actually have to spend money to put a competitive team on the ice. Oh well, sharks steal again from another team! Still can't believe the Thornton deal.

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 208283)
Big character win for the Hawks over the Sharks last night, especially after an apparent 2-0 lead became a 1-1 tie over the period of a few seconds. The NHL still has a couple goofy rules on the books, but the Hawks gutted out a tough win.

Very strange rule, never seen anything like that. Sharks didn't play their best, and against a young fast team like the Hawks, you are going to loose. Love watching the Hawks play, as they are just so young. That one goal that was put in about 2 feet in front of the goal was simply amazing.

icehog3 02-01-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 208309)

Very strange rule, never seen anything like that. Sharks didn't play their best, and against a young fast team like the Hawks, you are going to loose. Love watching the Hawks play, as they are just so young. That one goal that was put in about 2 feet in front of the goal was simply amazing.

First time I have ever seen it as well....I guess since Cheechoo was bleeding like a stuck pig they thought they better.

Sharks let Dan Boyle sit the game to rest....he is a good penalty killing d-man and might have been a factor in (stopping) the Versteeg shorthanded goal. Regardless, a big confidence booster for the young Hawks. I didn't think SJ played bad at all, I thought Khabibulin stood on his head at times.

bugmenot 02-01-2009 02:52 PM

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Towards the end of the game they played ok, but having watched them the entire season, they weren't skating too well. The last couple minutes got exciting, but Khabibulin managed to keep it out. Missing Boyle AND Luckowich hurts as they are paired as defenseman, but who knows what would have happened. I agree, it is a huge boost to the Hawks, especially beating the Sharks at home. I'm glad that the Hawks are leading the league in attendance. Kind of a shame the way they disappeared for awhile, but seems like the son taking over has a lot to do with it.

I'm hoping they end up meeting in the playoffs, as I think it would be exciting to watch two young teams go at it. What am I talking about though, I just love watching quality hockey, and talking about it with people who share the same passion as me. CA as a whole does not appreciate it, though San Jose certainly does.

taltos 02-01-2009 04:14 PM

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What was with those old style Montreal uniforms today? No wonder they lost, too busy laughing whenever they saw their reflection.

icehog3 02-02-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 208734)
I'm hoping they end up meeting in the playoffs, as I think it would be exciting to watch two young teams go at it.

That would be great...especially if it were in the Western Conference Finals. :)

acruce 02-07-2009 03:23 PM

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My Stars are starting to play some good hockey. How about last nights game 10 to 2 over the Rangers.:ss

smokeyandthebandit05 02-15-2009 04:11 PM

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Devils beat the Sharks!!! :r:r

bugmenot 02-15-2009 04:15 PM

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Sharks need to get healthy and start playing better. I thought those refs sucked in the game, and not even against the sharks, but both teams. The call against the Devils at the end was a joke, a few against the sharks were bad.

smokeyandthebandit05 02-15-2009 04:49 PM

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I didnt have a chance to catch the game but hopefully they will replay it tonight

taltos 02-18-2009 05:25 AM

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Nice 5-1 win for the Bruins over Carolina last night, the Bruins needed a regulation time win with the way they have been playing lately. It was also nice to see Carolina retire Glen Wesley's number. He was never the best player in Boston but he was one of the hardest workers.:ss

smokeyandthebandit05 02-18-2009 09:25 AM

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Last night we played horribly against the Florida Panthers :fl :sad




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Mr.Maduro 02-18-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 242251)
Last night we played horribly against the Florida Panthers :fl :sad

:tpd: WTF happened....good thing I went to bed when it was 1-0! :(

bugmenot 02-18-2009 11:45 AM

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Sharks finally got a regulation win, and even against the damn Oilers who they always have problems with!

Any penguins fans here? Wondering what they think of the firing/hiring of the coach.

Partagaspete 02-18-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 242469)
Sharks finally got a regulation win, and even against the damn Oilers who they always have problems with!

Any penguins fans here? Wondering what they think of the firing/hiring of the coach.

I do like the Pens although I am a Islanders fan. I really like a lot of the players throughout the years but I think there is too much talent on tha team to be where they are so maybe a change was needed. I wish the Isles woul have canned Mad Mike about tens years ago and maybe the Islanders history would have been different.

Just MHO.

T

smokeyandthebandit05 02-18-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 242252)
:tpd: WTF happened....good thing I went to bed when it was 1-0! :(

Ugh! I know I caught the last 17 min and at first I thought it sais 3-0 Devils leadin but I looked again and saw they were bein shut out. When the Panters scored that last goal it was over 4-0:fl

smokeyandthebandit05 02-19-2009 08:17 PM

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WOOOOO!!! Take that tampa!!!! :D:ss

Partagaspete 02-19-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 245429)
WOOOOO!!! Take that tampa!!!! :D:ss

I still can't forgive the Devils (no pun intended) for the development and use of the Neutral Zone Crap. It almost finished off hockey. :tg

T

smokeyandthebandit05 02-19-2009 10:30 PM

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:hm neutral zone crap? Can u explain more Ive never heard of this

Mr.Maduro 02-20-2009 10:59 AM

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Montreal players linked to organized crime....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3921050

So that's how they rigged the All-star game voting! :r

Prefy 02-20-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 246340)
Montreal players linked to organized crime....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3921050

So that's how they rigged the All-star game voting! :r

Doesn't surprise me...Sergei was a piece of work when I worked in Hamilton last year. On one occasion he simply went up to the coach and said "no practice". This also falls in line with some of the comment Kovalev made about the younger players getting into trouble.

The Habs are imploding at the moment I'm not sure what the solution is.

acruce 02-21-2009 03:32 PM

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Had tickets on the glass today for the Stars game . Very cool to watch the game from that view point,to bad they lost.

bugmenot 02-21-2009 04:29 PM

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Yeah, I think the penguins are totally underachieving. When you have two of the top 5 players in the league on your team, a good goalie, and you aren't doing well, something needs to change.

Looks like the sharks are finally turning it on again.

Darrell 02-21-2009 04:32 PM

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/93...242bc88e85.jpg

Partagaspete 02-22-2009 11:29 AM

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Great game today between Vancouver and Toronto. I hate TOronto but very classy act by the fans giving Matts Sundin a Standing O. He deserved the respect. Did I mention it was a great game.

Now I am watching the Pens/Caps. shaping up well.

T

icehog3 02-22-2009 02:24 PM

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The Blackhawks continue to exceed all expectations.

Please don't pinch me. ;)

acruce 02-22-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 249791)
The Blackhawks continue to exceed all expectations.

Please don't pinch me. ;)

They have allot of speed on there team at the game sat. they were a step quicker than the stars all day:rolleyes:

Partagaspete 02-23-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 245730)
:hm neutral zone crap? Can u explain more Ive never heard of this

Neutral zone trap
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The neutral zone trap is a defensive strategy used in ice hockey to prevent an opposing team from proceeding through the neutral zone (the area between the blue lines) to force turnovers. The strategy is generally used to level the playing field for teams that are not as offensively talented as their opponent, though the trap can also be used by teams simply looking to protect a lead late in the game.

The most recognizable implementation of the trap sees the defense stationing four of their players in the neutral zone and one forechecker in the offensive zone. As the offensive team starts to move up the ice, the forechecker (generally the centre) will cut off passing lanes to other offensive players by staying in the middle of the ice, forcing the puck carrier to either sideboard. The defensive wingers—typically placed on or near the red line—will be positioned by the boards to challenge the puck carrier, prevent passing, or even keep opponents from moving through. The two defencemen who are positioned on or near the blue lines are the last defence, and must stall the opposition long enough for the wingers to reset themselves and continue the trap.

The trap reached prominence with the New Jersey Devils' 1995 Stanley Cup victory, and has been widely criticized for reducing scoring and making the game less exciting for fans.[1] It has, however, proven to be very effective, especially in the playoffs.[citation needed] During the 2004-05 NHL lockout, serious discussion about opening the game to offense was done by both the NHL and NHL Players Association (NHLPA). Because it is easier to trap when engaging in obstruction and restraining fouls, such as hooking and holding, which slow the progress of faster players who can evade the trapping team, the NHL ordered officials to call every obstruction penalty, regardless of circumstance. The prohibition on two-line passes from behind a team's blue line to the other side of the red line was also lifted. Long passes are one method for breaking out of the trap, as it avoids the need to navigate through defenders in the neutral zone. With passes across the red line from behind the puck carrier's blue line permitted under the revised NHL rules, the effectiveness of the neutral zone trap is greatly diminished. Defensive minded teams have reverted to a "third man high" system where only two offensive players will commit down low, allowing the third to join the defense and impede progress across the blue line.


courtesy of Wikipedia

bugmenot 02-23-2009 11:17 AM

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Rangers fired their coach, thats now 2 coaches gone in the past few weeks. I wonder if anybody else is going to get fired.

Hopefully tonights Stars/Sharks game will be a good one.

icehog3 02-23-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bugmenot (Post 251518)
Rangers fired their coach, thats now 2 coaches gone in the past few weeks. I wonder if anybody else is going to get fired.

Hopefully tonights Stars/Sharks game will be a good one.

I am looking forward to that Sharks - Wings game Wednesday! :tu

smokeyandthebandit05 02-23-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete (Post 251490)
Neutral zone trap
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

The neutral zone trap is a defensive strategy used in ice hockey to prevent an opposing team from proceeding through the neutral zone (the area between the blue lines) to force turnovers. The strategy is generally used to level the playing field for teams that are not as offensively talented as their opponent, though the trap can also be used by teams simply looking to protect a lead late in the game.

The most recognizable implementation of the trap sees the defense stationing four of their players in the neutral zone and one forechecker in the offensive zone. As the offensive team starts to move up the ice, the forechecker (generally the centre) will cut off passing lanes to other offensive players by staying in the middle of the ice, forcing the puck carrier to either sideboard. The defensive wingers—typically placed on or near the red line—will be positioned by the boards to challenge the puck carrier, prevent passing, or even keep opponents from moving through. The two defencemen who are positioned on or near the blue lines are the last defence, and must stall the opposition long enough for the wingers to reset themselves and continue the trap.

The trap reached prominence with the New Jersey Devils' 1995 Stanley Cup victory, and has been widely criticized for reducing scoring and making the game less exciting for fans.[1] It has, however, proven to be very effective, especially in the playoffs.[citation needed] During the 2004-05 NHL lockout, serious discussion about opening the game to offense was done by both the NHL and NHL Players Association (NHLPA). Because it is easier to trap when engaging in obstruction and restraining fouls, such as hooking and holding, which slow the progress of faster players who can evade the trapping team, the NHL ordered officials to call every obstruction penalty, regardless of circumstance. The prohibition on two-line passes from behind a team's blue line to the other side of the red line was also lifted. Long passes are one method for breaking out of the trap, as it avoids the need to navigate through defenders in the neutral zone. With passes across the red line from behind the puck carrier's blue line permitted under the revised NHL rules, the effectiveness of the neutral zone trap is greatly diminished. Defensive minded teams have reverted to a "third man high" system where only two offensive players will commit down low, allowing the third to join the defense and impede progress across the blue line.


courtesy of Wikipedia



Thanks :tu

I'll have to look for this when they play on Thursday

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