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How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7. :td


Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts. :hm

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I'm starting to think that's the case.
Only place that Stubbs should be at in this lineup is in the 6-8 spot, and in the nine spot when Leake and Willis are hitting. The problem is, I don't know who I would put in the two hole. Dusty likes to put his SSs out there, but Janish is what, 0-28 of late?

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:banger:banger:tu

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i LOVE it!!!!! YEAH TOM! And I believe what Dan meant to say is "Joey Votto saves the day yet again... what are the Reds going to do when he's outta here????"

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EDIT: Nevermind.

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EDIT: :wo :banger

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EDIT: Tom's poor Cubbies.... just be happy its not a 5 team division because at least they're not in last place ;)

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But my Tigers are in 1st! :wo :banger


P.S.....Dan, you know we love you. :)

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Beats my Reds.... and yes Dan, we love you, mine wasn't a shot at you, it was a shot at blowing the lead in the bottom of the 9th... and having to hop on the back of possibly the best player in the NL .... AGAIN.... I'm really going to miss him in two years when he moves back to Toronto to be the white Joe Carter, smiling rounding the bases in the World Series ;)

http://bigmouthsports.com/wp-content...tober-2010.jpg

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Just bat 8, let them take an out at 2... at least that way youre not hitting into a dp!

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I feel bad for Leake that one pitch ruined his complete game. Helluva job by the kid and I look forward to seeing him in the rotation for next year.

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After that game, I'm with ya on that one, Dan!

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Stubbs has 19 games to get 15 K's for 200. He has been moving up the All-Time ranks fast. 16th already and only 5 more to make the top 10. He is only 10 from the Reds record and has an outside shot at finishing in the top 3 All-time. :td

Also of note, he didn't start game 2 and they won, starts game 1 and 3 and they lost. :hm

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Also of note, Wrigley Field looks cool with all the ivy :tu

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I'm hoping he makes it to top 5 in all honesty, its giving me something to cheer for over the next 2+ weeks! I'd love to see him set the new record (for the Reds, no way he makes it to 233)!!!

And its WAAAYYYYY safer!

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I'm rooting for 200 myself.:)

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OOOhhh when I'm half in the bag on the 17th... Im going to cheer LOUDLY for the good ole D. Stubbs Backwards K.... all my friends will be confused.

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:banger:banger:banger

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/b_fellow.jpg

I'm Brian Fellow!!

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Inge walk off homer with 2 outs in the 9th! :banger :banger :banger :banger :banger

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woot woot?

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I will try one more time here, but so far it has been to no avail. At the end of the day we are all REDS fans. Some are negative, some are OVERTLY POSITIVE. But at the end of the day, we still love and BLEED Cincinnati RED. Is being a homer so bad? We need "homers" to buy tickets, and we need regular fans to buy tickets and merchandise so BC can legitimately say that he can up the payroll and that may (may, not guaranteed) help him to decide to increase payroll so we have a shot at making the playoffs again. Next year is our only shot to make it for a while to come, so if we don't support BC this year and in the offseason, then we are gonna be SOL for years to come.



So what I'm asking is this: can we all just get along, whether we think one fan in here is a homer or not? Agree to disagree, but don't belittle or single out one person in this thread b/c we think that he is too positive/not as skeptical as us or whatever the case may be. I hate to see one Reds fan hit the ignore button on other Reds fans b/c of this.

Don't get me wrong, I've piled on too at one point or another , but it's gone too far at this point. I've meant it as harmless fun, and I assume that others have meant the same, but I really think that feelings have started to become hurt (even though it's just an internet thread), and I don't think that's in the true spirit of Cigar Asylum. We all came here to be friends and enjoy friendships with one another, whether that's in person or just through online usernames, but the fact of the matter is that we all want to be friends and kind to one another. I even got a rep bump at some point for "piling on ___". Not knocking that person at all, don't get me wrong. I thought it was funny at the time, but I didn't realize that it hurt one here.


Sorry for the long post, but can we just agree to be REDS fans at this point? I'm not saying to not disagree with each other. I've actually loved the fact that Adam and I have disagreed over points and have had legitimate baseball debates/discussions. I don't want to see that end, but I do want to see the belittling come to an end toward one poster. It doesn't just effect him, it has effected two or three other posters from participating in this thread. I haven't mentioned names, but we all know who and what this post is about. I am giving it one more attempt to bring peace between Reds fans. Homer, skeptic, average fan, or one who has been used to being BS'ed around since 1995 or before, at the end of the day, we are all REDS fans, and I hope that we all can post and enjoy this place, whether it's discussion on Stubbs' failures, five smilies when the Reds win or whatever.

Please don't anyone take this the wrong way. I love everyone who posts in here: Adam, Waffle, Hugh, Dan, and even that Douchebag who likes the Cubbies.:) I just want us to ALL get along and be true Cigar Asylum members at the end of the day.

Thanks,
Andy

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I am on board Andy :tu I don't even have anyone on my ignore list anymore. I take what certain people say with a grain of salt now.

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By the way, did anyone realize that Cordero became the all time saves leader for a Dominican born player? Pretty cool in my opinion because that country lives and dies for baseball :tu

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Here are the pics from the game a couple weeks ago:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3-19-53_87.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...3-20-07_41.jpg

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Looks like attendance numbers at a Marlins game.:r

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That was at the start of the game. It filled in a couple innings later. Remember, it was a day game.

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Phillips needs to be signed long term. No one year option.

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Absolutely. Like you said, he is the face of the franchise. If you get rid of Phillips, I cannot imagine how many hits would get thru the right side.

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Anybody see Fransico's HR last night?

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I did not. I had to work late and then I watched some football. How was it?

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Over 500 ft. First to ever go over the Moon Deck.

I'm not big on the guy personally, but that was a helluva hit.

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Very nice! :tu

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It was stupid far. Apparently hit a tree and some of the security officers found it in the street. Didn't make it to the river like Adam Dunn's 500+ footer did a few years back. :tu

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Speaking of Dunn, he's about to set a new record, I believe:

.162 batting average, 160 strikeouts
Needs to more Ks for his strikeout number to be higher than his batting average.:r

I think that might be a first (not sure) for a guy who has had enough at bats to contend for a batting title.

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Speaking of strikeouts, Stubbs is only 10 away from 200. Not bad for a guy who is supposed to be a leadoff hitter vs. a guy who is supposed to be a power hitter. Maybe Dusty will sit him down the stretch to keep him from making it to 200. :hm

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Would be 2nd time. I think Rob Deer was the 1st and only.

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

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Rob Deer and Mark Reynolds were both close, but both had a slightly higher average.

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The latest losing streak has ended, I see. :r

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Just trying to cement a 3rd place finish as the defending division champs. :tu

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They may even make it back to .500 woohoo! On a Tom note... really????

http://deadspin.com/5840139/this-is-...-headline-ever

Are the Tigs winning the division?

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One of two divisions in the Majors they could win. The other one, the Reds play in. :r

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Rob Deer was close, but was off by four Ks from the stats I'm looking at.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...deerro01.shtml

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;)

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I was hoping we would at least make it back to above .500, so we could at least say we had back to back winning seasons for once, but it looks like that's not gonna happen either.

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Woops. Didn't see that you beat me to it, Adam.:)

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:tu

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Possible good news for Cubs fans. They may possibly be interested in Walt Jocketty for their GM next year. He hasn't done much for the Reds, but he's got a decent track record when working with teams who can pony up some cash (Cardinals).