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yourchoice 06-10-2011 07:32 AM

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What a fantastic series so far. The guts the Bruins have showed the last two games is really impressive.
Quote:

Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 1288487)
.... yet Rome taking out Horton with what would have been a completely legal hit except for the offset timing is reason enough to give the harshest suspension in Finals history?

What do you mean by offset timing? IMHO, Rome's hit was clearly illegal since the puck wasn't anywhere near him. If that's what you meant by "offset timing", you're admitting the hit was illegal. A guy that doesn't have the puck, or the puck anywhere near him should not expect to get blindsided.

I read some of your posts earlier in the thread and you acknowledge a suspension was warranted, but now you're saying it wasn't? Or you're saying the number of games are too many? Maybe the series being tied up is changing your opinion. ;)

And, FWIW, I'm neither a Canucks fan nor Bruins fan (as a Flyers fan, the latter should be obvious :D). As hard as you (or, for that matter any of us) may try, I think you're looking at things with blue colored glasses.

Otherwise...I hope the Flyers can sign Bryzgalov....but they'd have to clear some cap space to do so. Jeff Carter on his way out???

Ahbroody 06-10-2011 01:51 PM

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I dont know if you will get a reply joel.
He appears to go ghost when his team doesnt look good. I think I remember him going ghost in the Hawks series as well.

Was thinking lastnight. Both the Bs and Hawks play a physical grinding series but have some skill. Dont know why I didnt think the Bs couldnt do what the Hawks did. With the loss of Hamhus and Rome that deep D of Vancouver is now a question mark.

If the Bs are smart they will go after Eirhoff. He was hurt in the Sharks series looked suspect in the last few games. The turtling thing will be in his head and head and he may still be physically not right. Hit him hard every chance and he may fold. I would love nothing more. I hate him. As a Shark he did a couple things at the practice rink to people that showed the guys a POS of the highest caliber and became unpopular in the locker room. Still like Manny.

icehog3 06-10-2011 01:54 PM

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"Offset timing" = "Late, dirty hit". :2

357 06-10-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1290829)
Nice post Mike ...We finely agree on something :r :D

When I first read a hockey post Mike and I agreed with I was checking the sky for fire and brimstone. I thought surely the world was ending.


Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1291230)
"Offset timing" = "Late, dirty hit". :2

QFT

Ahbroody 06-10-2011 02:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1291238)
When I first read a hockey post Mike and I agreed with I was checking the sky for fire and brimstone. I thought surely the world was ending.



QFT

Ass!

Its interesting the HNC of that night Grapes shows Thorton chirping Rome hard on the bench just before the shift Rome gave that hit. He was saying he was wound up from the chirping. Dirty player? Id say no. Dirty dirty hit from a pissed of guy seeking some revenge? Yup. I really hate the BS watching his pass argument. They were entering the zone and it could be easily argued he was watching thr play to make sure he didnt put himself offsides. Either way he didnt have the puck and had taken atleast two strides before the hit. To attempt to defend it in anyway is odd.

Atleast on Eagers hit on the sister he had the puck. Ginners hit on Rome was set up by Luongos buddy fuc$ pass. Eagers hit was wrong though but Ginners hit was legal shoulder to shoulder. If Luo doesnt screw his teamate it doesnt happen, but Ginners forecheck forced the pass because luongo didnt want to freeze it.

icehog3 06-10-2011 02:19 PM

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I don't think Rome is a dirty player either, but think he made a dirty play.

Keep your head up if you have the puck....but seconds after passing? Damn that "offset timing".

TheLostGringo 06-10-2011 04:42 PM

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Glad to hear Luongo is getting the start. Just remember B's Glove Side, Glove Side, Glove Side!

Ahbroody 06-10-2011 07:20 PM

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I dont know why, but I think boston will have to kill a 5-3 before games over.
Interesting so far.

Bruins Fan 06-10-2011 08:05 PM

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Tight game,Vancouver is out hitting us tonight.
Looks like One might do it tonight?
Vancouver D is moving up in the Offense zone I want to see someone get behind them for a breakaway :D

Ahbroody 06-10-2011 08:55 PM

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Well I guess Geoff can post again.
LULs.

Bruins Fan 06-10-2011 09:01 PM

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Tuff loss,just could not get traffic in front of Luongo to pressure him.
I did not understand some of the personnel moves Julien made,the PP killed us and the B's were just not sharp tonight.
Backs against the wall,I'm going to miss the rest of the series leaving on camping trip Sunday.

kugie 06-10-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1291839)
Tuff loss,just could not get traffic in front of Luongo to pressure him.
I did not understand some of the personnel moves Julien made,the PP killed us and the B's were just not sharp tonight.
Backs against the wall,I'm going to miss the rest of the series leaving on camping trip Sunday.

I agree, no real pressure on Luongo he was relaxed tonight no-one got in his face and pressured him.
He made some really good saves tonight but they were too and far between.
I can't wait for Monday

Let's GO BRUINS!!!!!!

You have to lose 3 to WIN in SEVEN!!!

yourchoice 06-10-2011 09:39 PM

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Bruins seemed to suffer from too much reaching and not enough skating tonight. At this time of year, I hope it was being tired, not lazy. Looked tired to me. The extra day off before game 6 may serve them well.

Burrows is a punk...but the type of player that if he were on the team you root for, you'd love him (except for the biting). The embellishing would get old (like it does for me with Carcillo), but he takes a lot of pressure off his teammates. Reminds me in some ways of Barnaby (who I hated! :r).

Really hoping for a game 7. This series has been great theater and a game 7 would be the icing on the cake.

icehog3 06-10-2011 11:26 PM

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Awesome game by both goalies tonight...Luongo was just one better. Bruins gotta bring it Monday.

Burrows is a joke. The fake trip is just a slap in the face to all the players who played, and play, the game the way it was meant to be played. I would be pissed if the Hawks ever gave him the Indian Head. :2

Ahbroody 06-11-2011 01:04 AM

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Must be taking lessons from Laflopier.

taltos 06-11-2011 07:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1291972)
Awesome game by both goalies tonight...Luongo was just one better. Bruins gotta bring it Monday.

Burrows is a joke. The fake trip is just a slap in the face to all the players who played, and play, the game the way it was meant to be played. I would be pissed if the Hawks ever gave him the Indian Head. :2

Just what I expect of the divers from Montreal West.

mosesbotbol 06-11-2011 07:39 AM

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The B's fizzled out after the 1st period.

yourchoice 06-11-2011 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1291972)
Burrows is a joke. The fake trip is just a slap in the face to all the players who played, and play, the game the way it was meant to be played. I would be pissed if the Hawks ever gave him the Indian Head. :2

He is an ass, no doubt. I think if the league called embellishment penalties without the trip or hook being called every time (seems like every time to me)players like him would ease off the embellishing.

Don't get me wrong...I can't stand the guy! But there is value to the way he plays for the Canucks, specifically for the twins.

What did you think of Barnaby, Tom? (and Domi for that matter...another punk-ass! :r)

icehog3 06-11-2011 09:09 AM

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I wasn't a big fan of either, Joel.

Tie Domi was on the road in Montreal and went into a hat store. He told the clerk that he would like to see a hat in his size. The clerk said, "yeah, I'd like to see that too!"

Bigwaved 06-11-2011 09:12 AM

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Agreed. They need to leave that crap to the soccer players of the world.

Sawyer 06-11-2011 09:14 AM

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I guess it doesn't matter that you can score 12 goals in Boston if you can't score even one in Vancouver.

:ih

icehog3 06-12-2011 11:22 PM

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The home team has won every game so far in the series.

Hope that continues for one more game.

Let's Go Bruins!!

kugie 06-13-2011 11:32 AM

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They have to pull it off tonight to extend the Season.

Let's go Bruins!

If they Keep it close and pull off the win it may just be enough to put them over the top to take the Canucks out in Game 7.

But the Bruins Right now are in a one and done scenario. This is major gut check time and I think they have it in them.

6.5 hours to go

LET'S GO BRUINS!!!!!

agctribefan 06-13-2011 11:40 AM

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Bruins have to pull out all the stops tonight. Send it to seven. Nothing better than a stanley cup finals game seven!

Ahbroody 06-13-2011 02:49 PM

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Been a good series.
Will be sad if the Bs dont win it.

TheLostGringo 06-13-2011 06:32 PM

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Nice start

TheLostGringo 06-13-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLostGringo (Post 1295564)
Nice start


Make that even a better start! 2-0

TheLostGringo 06-13-2011 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLostGringo (Post 1295567)
Make that even a better start! 2-0

Just fun to watch, 3-0!!

TheLostGringo 06-13-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLostGringo (Post 1295584)
Just fun to watch, 3-0!!

I am getting tired typing, 4-0!!!!

Ahbroody 06-13-2011 06:46 PM

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That dude is a Focking headcase. Given the Hook already in a game you can win the cup you $hit and piss your pants.
I want them to fail so bad so he stays a headcase.

OOOOOO snap 4-0

How great is that video of the fans in Vancouver.

yourchoice 06-13-2011 06:57 PM

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My brother asked me to help him catch some guinea hen chicks and I figured shoot...I may miss a few minutes. I get home and see the replay of the third goal. Holy s***, what a start for the Bruins!
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Ahbroody 06-13-2011 09:12 PM

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I will be glued to the tv for game 7.

Congrats to the Bs for making this a highly entertaining series

E.J. 06-13-2011 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1295784)
I will be glued to the tv for game 7.

Congrats to the Bs for making this a highly entertaining series

X 2.....

Wonder if the Bruins can convince Luongo & the 'Nucks he/they are in Boston and not Vancouver Wednesday.....;)

yourchoice 06-13-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1295784)
I will be glued to the tv for game 7.

I already told my wife that Wednesday night is booked!

icehog3 06-13-2011 10:53 PM

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Took the night off work Wednesday....not gonna chance hearing anything, I am watching live.

Hope Thursday includes a parade in Beantown, and golfing in Vancouver.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...lf-Canucks.jpg

icehog3 06-14-2011 12:23 AM

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http://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?...005730919&ap=1

icehog3 06-14-2011 12:41 AM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...nuckdive-1.jpg

icehog3 06-14-2011 12:41 AM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...anuckluo-1.jpg

icehog3 06-14-2011 12:41 AM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...anucktwins.jpg

Ahbroody 06-14-2011 12:46 AM

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Lol. You made me log into my facebook account I normally only do that to get some discount or something from a retailer. I think thats the third or fourth time I have logged in. :r

I wonder if the pressure will get to him or not. He clearly has shown he doesnt handle it well at times.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle2050961/

icehog3 06-14-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1296202)
I wonder if the pressure will get to him or not. He clearly has shown he doesnt handle it well at times.

One can only hope! :D

Ahbroody 06-14-2011 01:01 AM

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Luongo on GW goal: "Not hard [save] if youre playing in the paint. It's an easy save for me. But if you're wandering out...its gonna happen"

I cant believe he had the stones to say that after making NHL history in the two prior games. He and Lebron. Ugggh. How does he explain the soft goals he was letting in tonight? 3 on 8 shots. If they win I will be so sad for Thomas. He has shown he is a stud and if his team wouldnt disappear this series would have already been long over.

GreekGodX 06-14-2011 03:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1296224)
Luongo on GW goal: "Not hard [save] if youre playing in the paint. It's an easy save for me. But if you're wandering out...its gonna happen"

I cant believe he had the stones to say that after making NHL history in the two prior games. He and Lebron. Ugggh. How does he explain the soft goals he was letting in tonight? 3 on 8 shots. If they win I will be so sad for Thomas. He has shown he is a stud and if his team wouldnt disappear this series would have already been long over.

I thought the same thing when I heard that quote from Luongo. I'm really hoping the Bruins can win game 7.

taltos 06-14-2011 05:11 AM

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Got my fingers crossed. It has been too long since I have seen a Cup Champion banner raised in Boston.

kugie 06-14-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1296344)
I thought the same thing when I heard that quote from Luongo. I'm really hoping the Bruins can win game 7.

I guess his tires weren't inflated enough for the game last night :D

Game Seven Holy Crap I am so pumped up for this.

Thomas has been awesome this series and Luongo is a whiny little man.

He has zero class and is a mental case I hope he has a complete metal break down during the game.

I just heard this on the Radio

LABRONGO :r

elderboy02 06-14-2011 06:21 AM

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I don't normally watch hockey, but I have watched pretty much every game of the Stanley Cup finals. This stuff is intense. I love how passionate each team is. Always fighting!

As long as I live, I will never forget how much I laughed when Bostons goalie hit the dude from Vancouver a few games ago. The guy for Vancouver hit Boston's goalies stick and then when the refs weren't looking he took out the dudes knee from behind :r

I could just hear the goalie saying "Don't touch my stick! I'm gonna take out your knee f--ker!" :r

357 06-14-2011 06:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1296224)
Luongo on GW goal: "Not hard [save] if youre playing in the paint. It's an easy save for me. But if you're wandering out...its gonna happen"

I cant believe he had the stones to say that after making NHL history in the two prior games. He and Lebron. Ugggh. How does he explain the soft goals he was letting in tonight? 3 on 8 shots. If they win I will be so sad for Thomas. He has shown he is a stud and if his team wouldnt disappear this series would have already been long over.

Luongo = no class and no clue. The talk I'm hearing is that even if Vancouver ends up winning game 7, Thomas could end up winning the Conn Smythe. I think he deserves it, assuming he doesn't lay an egg Wed.

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1296438)
I don't normally watch hockey, but I have watched pretty much every game of the Stanley Cup finals. This stuff is intense. I love how passionate each team is.

That's what we love about hockey, especially playoff hockey.

GreekGodX 06-14-2011 06:52 AM

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I thought this was a good read, here's the link but I posted it because I wasn't sure if it was on Insider or not Letter to Luongo

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BOSTON -- Dear Mr. Luongo,

I'm so sorry I missed you Monday evening. My intent was to meet up with you at TD Garden, where I was under the assumption you and your Vancouver Canucks teammates planned to show up to play Game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals.

My mistake.

By the time I settled into my seat in the first period, you were already gone, having waved your white Canucks flag in surrender. You had given up three goals on eight shots, and your coach couldn't stand to watch anymore.


For the second time in three games in our fair city, you were yanked from the Stanley Cup finals, reduced to a high-priced spectator with a baseball cap and yet another gaping hole in your postseason dossier. After your team's 5-2 loss, you were the talk of the locker room, for all the wrong reasons.

First, a confession. I was late for this heavily anticipated matchup because I spent the day scouring sporting goods shops looking for the proper apparatus to "pump your tires." It was brought to my attention this was something you felt Bruins goaltender Tim Thomas should have done for you, but he's been kind of busy shutting down your Hart trophy candidates. So I took it upon myself to show some old-fashioned New England hospitality and do the honors.

You do remember your comments, right? After Thomas gave up a late goal to Maxim Lapierre in a 1-0 Game 5 loss, you declared it was a shot you would have stopped.

"It's not hard if you're playing in the paint," you said. "It's an easy save for me, but if you're wandering out and aggressive like he does, that's going to happen. He might make some saves I won't, but in a case like that, we want to take advantage of a bounce like that and make sure we're in a good position to bury those."

Naturally those comments did not sit well with the Bruins. They were particularly curious since you had just come off two of the more dreadful back-to-back performances in recent postseason memory.

You followed up the next day by whining about Thomas, "I've been pumping his tires since the series started. I haven't heard one nice thing he had to say about me."

Hmm. That's curious as well. Since when is it a prerequisite for the competition to lavish his opponent with hearts and flowers and lollipops and best wishes? Thomas might not have been pumping your tires, but he wasn't slashing them, either. Lord knows he would have had enough ammunition had he cared to go that route.

He didn't because he's a thoughtful, poised, composed hockey player. He's got better things to do than dissect each goal you've let up. Besides, with so many to choose from, who'd have the time?

No matter. If pumping your tires is what you want, I was prepared to oblige.

There were two problems with this seemingly mundane assignment. The first: The minute anyone in the metro Boston area heard your name, he or she launched a string of expletives normally reserved for Ulf Samuelsson. You have a bit of an image problem here, Mr. Luongo, because of your decision to verbally challenge the aforementioned Mr. Thomas.

The insinuation from you, your teammate Kevin Bieksa and your coach, Alain Vigneault, that Thomas is "leaky" is, at this hour, well, laughable.

Did you ever take mathematics in school? In case you need a refresher course on how numbers work, let's review the data in front of us. In this Stanley Cup series, you have given up 17 goals. Mr. Thomas, the subject of your skepticism, has given up eight goals.

The scores of the three games Boston dropped in Vancouver were 1-0 on a defensive breakdown, 3-2 in overtime and the aforementioned 1-0 decision in Game 5. All three games were tightly contested, and all three were decided late.


In each case, Thomas kept the Bruins alive with the aggressive, albeit unorthodox style that seems to aggravate you so much. Thomas, you see, has a habit of giving his team a chance to win every time out, so much so that should his team hoist the Stanley Cup on your ice Wednesday evening, he will be the Conn Smythe winner as postseason MVP. In fact, Mr. Luongo, there's a growing sentiment that he might win the award even if your team prevails.

Here's the second problem with the concept of "pumping your tires": They are shredded beyond repair. Brad Marchand, Milan Lucic and Andrew Ference took turns drilling 8-inch spikes into them Monday night. You wilted under Boston's attack, and your team followed suit. Again.

Now, you might well win the Stanley Cup when you return to the friendly confines of your own rink. If so, what will we have learned about you?


That you know how to shine at home, where it's comfortable and easy and safe. That you imploded on the road the moment the pressure was on and you were forced to deal with some unpleasant adversity.


You've given up 15 goals in three games here, Mr. Luongo. And you have the audacity to suggest that Tim Thomas is the weak link?

Roberto Luongo in 2011 Cup finals
Home Road
W-L 3-0 0-3
Goals allowed 2 15
Save percentage .979 .773

I'm not known for jumping on athletes, but here's what really pumps my tires: your superior, condescending attitude toward one of the best stories in hockey.

Tim Thomas is 37, a 217th overall draft pick who toiled for years in the minors and in Europe, who had to fight and scratch and claw for a chance at a starting job, which he did not earn until he was 31. His livelihood was in question as early as this past season, when he underwent hip surgery that threatened to derail his future.


Tuukka Rask was thought to be the goalie-in-waiting, and he might well be a fine one someday. But he doesn't have Tim Thomas' grit or heart or guts or resolve.

Neither do you, Mr. Luongo. You might have that blue-blood hockey pedigree that comes along with being a No. 4 overall pick and an Olympic gold-medal goalie, but that doesn't give you the right to turn up your nose at Tim Thomas.


You certainly have had some fine, fine moments in your career, but you will be hard pressed to find anyone who will include these Stanley Cup finals among them.

I don't know who will win Game 7 on Wednesday night, but either way, I do know which goalie stood tall and proud and pumped up his team with his inspired play.

Sorry, Mr. Luongo. You fell flat there, too.


Sincerely, Jackie MacMullan


elderboy02 06-14-2011 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1296458)
...
That's what we love about hockey, especially playoff hockey.

Is the regular season this intense? For some reason when I am flipping thru the channels and the Blue Jackets are on, I get bored.

taltos 06-14-2011 07:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1296438)
I don't normally watch hockey, but I have watched pretty much every game of the Stanley Cup finals. This stuff is intense. I love how passionate each team is. Always fighting!

As long as I live, I will never forget how much I laughed when Bostons goalie hit the dude from Vancouver a few games ago. The guy for Vancouver hit Boston's goalies stick and then when the refs weren't looking he took out the dudes knee from behind :r

I could just hear the goalie saying "Don't touch my stick! I'm gonna take out your knee f--ker!" :r

There was a time when virtually every goalie would protect his crease that way from opposing players and sometimes from his own players when they strayed into the crease. What Thomas did is a lost art.


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