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ApexAZ 01-04-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 1520031)
About the same as smoking pipes and cigars, mebbee. ;)

Don't scour but once. Thereafter, only rinse the lower and rinse and dry-wipe out the upper.

Good point.

I ordered a 3 cup. Target and BBB only had the 6 cup versions. Now to figure out where to get beans and a decent grinder.

688sonarmen 01-05-2012 05:55 PM

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After searching for the last few weeks I have finally found a grinder for my moka pot. It did not make any sense to spend 100+$ on one to get the grind I am looking for. I went with a manual ceramic burr grinder made by hario (mini slim) here is a decent video where it shows it being able to pull expresso and just up to a French press. I will post what I think after I get a chance to play with it.


http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/Har...cg11550-40.htm

Savor the Stick 01-05-2012 06:15 PM

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Excellent! Keep us informed how it works. I had heard of this one several years ago; was thinking of getting it for camping. Good rep on it.

Chainsaw13 01-05-2012 07:33 PM

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I've dialed it in around 19-20 grams of ground beans works best for me in the three cupper. Now to find some good espresso beans. The ones I've been using say they're good for espresso, but not for me. I love it in the FP, so I'll stick with that.

MarkinAZ 01-05-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1521956)
I've dialed it in around 19-20 grams of ground beans works best for me in the three cupper. Now to find some good espresso beans. The ones I've been using say they're good for espresso, but not for me. I love it in the FP, so I'll stick with that.

Ain't that the truth Bob! Lots of different Espresso roasts out there to choose from. Always great when you find something that floats your boat:tu


ApexAZ 01-06-2012 10:31 PM

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I got my moka pot today. It kind of stunk like metal and grease. Is this normal? I washed it with hot water and dish soap, then boiled up regular water followed by 4 pots of cheap drip coffee. Smells better, but it's not completely gone. Will this eventually go away?

galaga 01-07-2012 11:11 AM

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It will eventually go away. Did your brewed coffee smell funny? I would guess it didn't. You might remove your gasket and wash it too. I would think you are good to go after you do that.

MarkinAZ 01-07-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1523328)
I got my moka pot today. It kind of stunk like metal and grease. Is this normal?

Upon opening my Bialetti 3 cupper, it did not have the smell you're speaking about. But as Dan and Rick have mentioned, a lite wash with some mild detergent to start things off, run a couple of batches through, and the only thing you really need to do after that is simply rinse it with warm water after the pot cools down and towel dry.

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1521956)
I've dialed it in around 19-20 grams of ground beans works best for me in the three cupper...

I performed a few extra measurements on the 3 cupper. You get about 5oz of water if you fill to the "fill line" in the bottom piece. If your placing approximately 19-21g of finely ground coffee in the filter basket, you will have about 4oz of brewed coffee. The grounds in the filter retain about an ounce of water...

Chainsaw13 01-07-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA (Post 1523669)
I performed a few extra measurements on the 3 cupper. You get about 5oz of water if you fill to the "fill line" in the bottom piece. If your placing approximately 19-21g of finely ground coffee in the filter basket, you will have about 4oz of brewed coffee. The grounds in the filter retain about an ounce of water...

Yep, that's what I've been finding too.

ApexAZ 01-07-2012 02:33 PM

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Here is my first pot. I used some starbucks house blend since it's all I have for now.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6...de78c622_z.jpg

The first latte was pretty tasty. The second, not so much. It was kind of burnt. Is this because I left it in the pot? Should I be pouring it all out immediately?

688sonarmen 01-07-2012 03:01 PM

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Brian, I pour mine out as soon as it stops brewing.

Today at the NEX I picked up a can of Cafe Bustelo (expresso) and I have to say it is GREAT the mokapot. Compared to the Lavazza I was using my brew time has gone from 10+ min to about 3 and the flavors from the Bustelo are very good, very complex and sweet and it tasted like I poured some whiskey in the cup. The grind seems to be just right on it.

ApexAZ 01-07-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1523838)
Brian, I pour mine out as soon as it stops brewing.

Today at the NEX I picked up a can of Cafe Bustelo (expresso) and I have to say it is GREAT the mokapot. Compared to the Lavazza I was using my brew time has gone from 10+ min to about 3 and the flavors from the Bustelo are very good, very complex and sweet and it tasted like I poured some whiskey in the cup. The grind seems to be just right on it.

What is NEX? I bought some green beans and a whirley-pop, but they won't be here until next week.

I bought a cuisinart grinder for $40. Hoping it will do a decent job.

MarkinAZ 01-07-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1523856)
What is NEX?

Navy Exchange...

ApexAZ 01-08-2012 12:41 PM

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Cool thanks. I got some dark roast Sumatra from our local sprouts market and it brewed up great! So glad I found this thread!

By the way, how is the grinder working out? I almost went with a manual before deciding on the cheap electric cuisinart one. How long does it take to grind enough beans to fill the moka pot?

688sonarmen 01-13-2012 08:07 PM

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Brian, and everyone else. The Hario is perfect Imho. The grind is right where I want it which is just a tad bigger than an expression grind. It comes completely apart which makes cleaning very easy. The burrs are ceramic and just do a great job. If you are going for a drip grind do not buy it, as the burrs get farther apart the grind becomes inconsistent. As for the time I have a one cupper so I measure 2 tablespoons on the big side and it takes about a min to grind. The hario when unscrewed fits into my basket for my moka so there is very little mess, just a small amount of grounds when I level the basket.

MarkinAZ 01-14-2012 12:05 AM

Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1521875)
I went with a manual ceramic burr grinder made by hario (mini slim) here is a decent video where it shows it being able to pull expresso and just up to a French press.

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/Hario-Mini-Mill-Slim-p/scg11550-40.htm


Thanks for the link to the Hario Mini Mill Slim Jake. That looks like a winner to me.

:r...I love the video too. Those ladies have had one too many shotz of espresso:r


ApexAZ 02-01-2012 05:01 PM

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I have to say, the mokapot is awesome. I get great tasting lattes. I have a system where I make a latte with half, then just make an americano with cream for my second cup.

The $3 frothing wand I bought from Ikea works okay, but I may end up getting a manual pump frother. Or maybe even splurge and get an automatic frothing device.

688sonarmen 02-01-2012 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkinCA (Post 1530158)
Thanks for the link to the Hario Mini Mill Slim Jake. That looks like a winner to me.

:r...I love the video too. Those ladies have had one too many shotz of espresso:r


After about a month of use several times a day it still kicks ass:banger:banger

DrDubzz 07-08-2012 12:05 AM

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I was just given an older bialetti, been trying it out with generally good results, but hadn't read this thread in a couple years. I think I need to back off the heat a bit, pretty sure it's steel

Mister Moo 07-09-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 1675337)
I was just given an older bialetti, been trying it out with generally good results, but hadn't read this thread in a couple years. I think I need to back off the heat a bit, pretty sure it's steel

Never saw one in steel but, either way, you want to brew at lowest possible heat when the flow commences down the post. Try to stretch it out a good 45-seconds until the coffee dribble goes pale then quickly remove from heat.

Brew on my brothers. Can't believe anyone is still reading this post. Nice! :D

burninator 07-15-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 1676209)
Never saw one in steel but, either way, you want to brew at lowest possible heat when the flow commences down the post. Try to stretch it out a good 45-seconds until the coffee dribble goes pale then quickly remove from heat.

Brew on my brothers. Can't believe anyone is still reading this post. Nice! :D

Saw the stainless steel Bialetti "Venus" at Brandsmart a few days ago.

emopunker2004 07-24-2012 06:50 PM

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Dan, any experience using Pilon in the vacuum packs in a moka pot? Is the grind good enough?

Mister Moo 07-24-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1686849)
Dan, any experience using Pilon in the vacuum packs in a moka pot? Is the grind good enough?

I know it can be brewed well but I never had luck with it. A cigarstore guy poured me shot after shot of it down in Ybor CIty one morning and it was quite good.

emopunker2004 07-24-2012 09:10 PM

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ok. thats what they had at the cuban place i ate at in so fla and it was awesome

Chainsaw13 08-25-2015 06:10 PM

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Broke out the Mukka pot today. Ground up some SM's Monkey Blend, filled the top with some heavy cream. Talk about a rich cappuccino. :cf2

mosesbotbol 08-26-2015 08:38 AM

Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1686849)
Dan, any experience using Pilon in the vacuum packs in a moka pot? Is the grind good enough?

It'll work fine. Like any grind you need to fiddle with how of a tamp if any is needed.

Snook 04-30-2020 02:07 PM

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I remember this post when it was on club stogie. I purchased a Bialetti moka pot and was blown away with the results. I’d impress my college roommates with a jolt of moka pot brew. I still have my moka pot and use it from time to time. Thanks for all your wit and wisdom, Dan. You are certainly missed.

sigsauer 04-30-2020 07:55 PM

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I just found a new in box red-topped Guzzini!
this is gonna be fun*

mosesbotbol 05-01-2020 07:57 AM

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Here's one you are most unlikely to see outside of Naples, Italy - a Neapolitan coffee pot. Kind of like a Moka but also quite different. Takes a little practice to master.

https://i.postimg.cc/d0Qhd0DZ/neopolitan-coffee-pot.jpg

sigsauer 05-01-2020 09:28 PM

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I have a couple of questions*
After I put the red top on the stove (electric) how long ballpark until its finished...I read 45 seconds but I interpreted that to mean 45 seconds after boiling starts...is this correct?
If there are seals or gaskets on the red top?
how often should I replace them?
Do you use a tamper and how do you get the dome shaped pattern uniform?
Thank you

Snook 05-01-2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 2198206)
Here's one you are most unlikely to see outside of Naples, Italy - a Neapolitan coffee pot. Kind of like a Moka but also quite different. Takes a little practice to master.

https://i.postimg.cc/d0Qhd0DZ/neopolitan-coffee-pot.jpg

What the? Never seen this contraption before. Show us more please!

Snook 05-01-2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sigsauer (Post 2198278)
I have a couple of questions*
After I put the red top on the stove (electric) how long ballpark until its finished...I read 45 seconds but I interpreted that to mean 45 seconds after boiling starts...is this correct?
If there are seals or gaskets on the red top?
how often should I replace them?
Do you use a tamper and how do you get the dome shaped pattern uniform?
Thank you

Can you show a pic of the red top you’re talking about? I’m not sure what type it is. I only have experience with bialetti and another stainless steel version. I’ll try to help if you can show a pic.

sigsauer 05-02-2020 09:20 AM

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I sent a PM with a hyperlink

markem 05-02-2020 09:55 AM

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This thread caused me to bring out my Bialetti. A very good Americano. Just the right taste of bitter with good notes.

Snook 05-02-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by markem (Post 2198303)
This thread caused me to bring out my Bialetti. A very good Americano. Just the right taste of bitter with good notes.

:banger

sigsauer 05-04-2020 02:48 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Guzzini-21440.../dp/B002QKEUJY

sigsauer 05-04-2020 02:50 PM

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does anyone know where I can buy replacement gaskets for the guzzini?

M1903A1 05-04-2020 09:05 PM

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Tagging this for later review...as a grad student with evening classes I started drinking coffee, especially with a shot of espresso added (it was an Econ class, I needed all the help I could get!) and now I'd like to start experimenting with a mokapot.

Snook 05-05-2020 07:44 AM

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https://i.postimg.cc/c1TtVbNC/DE47-A...46-CE5-D60.jpg
Made some high octane fuel this morning

mosesbotbol 05-05-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Snook (Post 2198281)
What the? Never seen this contraption before. Show us more please!

01-where-the-coffee-goes-in-red
https://i.postimg.cc/McKyRVkx/01-whe...offee-goes.jpg

02-capped-with-coffee-inside
https://i.postimg.cc/LJSk9GNJ/02-capped-with-coffee.jpg

03-ready-assembled-before-brewing
https://i.postimg.cc/B8Y2CbsF/03-rea...re-brewing.jpg

04-how-it-would-heat-on-stove
https://i.postimg.cc/LJVtnvbN/04-how...t-on-stove.jpg

05-flipped-and-brewing-once-boiling
https://i.postimg.cc/HcrXvmsh/05-fli...nd-brewing.jpg

sigsauer 05-10-2020 11:51 AM

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I boil water in a kettle and pour the hot water to the fill line in the bottom piece.
That is correct right?

Snook 05-10-2020 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sigsauer (Post 2198836)
I boil water in a kettle and pour the hot water to the fill line in the bottom piece.
That is correct right?

No. Pour room temp water into the bottom piece until it reaches right below the pressure valve. Then place coffee grounds and top and place on stovetop on low-med heat.

sigsauer 05-16-2020 02:27 PM

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today...100% success! Finally......I ordered a few gaskets too....

Snook 05-16-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sigsauer (Post 2199202)
today...100% success! Finally......I ordered a few gaskets too....

Pics my friend. We need pics to drool over :dr

Enraged 05-30-2020 10:39 AM

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We brew coffee right on the stove with this pot, simple but still great, bought it in Turkey)
https://i.ibb.co/5jJFz4J/coffee-pot.jpg
The only thing is everybody is telling to buy a manual grinder, and I have no idea which one is better. If you have any experience with these ones, I'd appreciate that!

sigsauer 05-30-2020 10:54 AM

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that is a beautiful pot

Snook 05-30-2020 10:46 PM

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Very cool. I’m always intrigued by coffee brewing methods from around the world.

gettysburgfreak 08-29-2020 08:36 PM

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Can you guys recommend a good burr grinder that won’t break the bank. Also, some good coffee to try? I’m very interested in trying this as an alternative to my standard coffee pot when I don’t need to make a cup quickly.

Chainsaw13 08-29-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 2204488)
Can you guys recommend a good burr grinder that won’t break the bank. Also, some good coffee to try? I’m very interested in trying this as an alternative to my standard coffee pot when I don’t need to make a cup quickly.

I have the Bodum Bistro grinder. Has served me well for quite a few years.

mosesbotbol 08-30-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 2204488)
Can you guys recommend a good burr grinder that won’t break the bank. Also, some good coffee to try? I’m very interested in trying this as an alternative to my standard coffee pot when I don’t need to make a cup quickly.

I go through cycles where I am hot for new grinder and start checking craigs list for fancier grinders. The fancier Rancilio and Mazer go for a nice discount used. The good grinders are truly life time machines. I have had my Rancilio Rocky 25 years and still works like a trooper. Burrs easy to clean and take apart. Only reason I am looking at a Mazer Major is that'll be quicker to grind the coffee.

I bet more grinders will be for sale unfortunately due to business closures and general hardship, but you get a grinder and they get some needed cash...


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