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Enough 3rd and 4th person reporting here. Why not invite him here to post on his own?

The man type can't he? :D

Why not share the Asylum? Would love to hear from some of your smoking buddys.

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Ill BlackBerry him and tell him to register :r:r:r

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No. No, we can't. ;)

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I'm with the muscle-bound guy for the win!

Smoking an 01 RG CE right now, with ZERO draw problems.

My local crew will tell you that I report 20~30% of Cubans have draw issues, but I've never met a RG that performed poorly.

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:wnr:wo

I have had draw problems with maybe 5% tops of the CCs I have smoked, but I will take a 95% success rate for my preferred tastes.

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In all fairness, my crew laughs at my estimates...

But then again, they laugh AT me often.

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They are laughing with you, Ted! :D

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But were these plugged cigars produced for the B&M (aka La Casa Habanos) or the internet shops most people buy from? :D

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4/3 of cigar smokers have trouble with fractions.

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roflmfao

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17/16 of 93% of stats listed on public forums are unreliable.

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Everyone's a critic...

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OK. So why did you start this thread? :confused: The title says "stirring the pot". Was that your intention? Just curious.

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I'm getting pissed.

Here I was thinking I was going to get a bunch of free cigars to do a quintuplet blind test but now someone's just trying to wrastle me.... I don't like that kind of contact.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2u...a-vs-usa_sport

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I enjoy a good cigar now and then.http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1432

MCS

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When the concept was introduced on other sites there were very polarized reactions. Some near violent. But that forum was a bunch of a-holes who basically all had the same opinion and were ruthless to anyone outside of that. So I figured if try it here on a much more respectful crowd and see the results. I knew the potential for the topic to be volitile therefore the title. But the purpose was always to see what others thought. Everyone at the lounge I go to agrees with me on this but I'm finding that as far as the internet forum crowd goes we are a minority. That in and of itself might be telling. The guys at my lounge are not big into the internet forum. Not into internet cigars. Could all be attitude and personal perception. Either way. For the guy who thinks there is a difference if there is not or for the guy who thinks there is no difference if there is.

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I think your right, heres one:D

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10764

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41% of statistics are made up.

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[quote=Legend;268324]. But the purpose was always to see what others thought. QUOTE]

Ok. Here is my thought. I am a big fan of everything Padron makes.
Most of my Padron purchases are made at the local B&M, because he has great prices on Padrons and a nice shop I can sit and smoke in. I have purchased some Padrons online and find them to be the same excellent cigar.

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[quote=Stogieboy;268559]:tpd: Keeping it nice and simple.

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:r
Nice one, fellas!:tu

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Statistics are like whores, play with them long enough and they'll do anything for you.

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What about me? What about my needs? :rolleyes:

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To quote the famous Bob Wiley "gimmie gimmie gimmie. I need. I need. Gimmie gimmie "

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Here's a stat:

Sex panther. 60% of the time it works, every time

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:r

I love that movie.

:r

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This should clear up the percentage debate:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2031/linknd8.gif

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I think you guys should mail me all of your wordly possessions, I'm gonna start a cult where you guys think I'm awesome. I'm going to start an amusement park called Dan Land, and only I'm allowed to go in it. You all can maintenance my rides.

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Good luck with that, Dan. ;)

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pnoon thinks this thread has gone way past its shelf life.
:2

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Everyone knows that Internet cigars are CREs. Cigars Ready to Eat

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Thanks, I'll give you special access to Vodka Land.

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md4958 thinks Peter is funny! :r:r:r

and correct :tu

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I think your conspiracy theory would take more time and energy than it is worth. For the most part same blend lower quality sticks are marketed as 2nds, overuns, knockoffs etc... There may be handling or storage issues whatever but cigars have variation where you can have differences in the same box let alone between different production runs.

If there was a significant actual difference in the product I think it quickly noticed buy consumers in general change the value of the economic equation for internet retailers and make a significant impact on internet sales. People aren't just looking for cheap smokes they are looking for the same cigars but at lower cost. There are number of reasons why internet retailers can have significantly lower prices.

Internet sales are primarily about cost. Internet providers can sell lower due to markets of scale for the large sellers like CS, lack of having to maintain the same ratio of retail space as a B & M and by avoiding state sales tax which in some states like CA are very significant. I suspect that the large warehouses of companies like CI are more consistently managed and maintained for temp and humidity than the majority of B&M retailers.

The benefits of a B&M stick are you are supporting a local business and likely an independent owner, you get to develop a relationship with the people that work there, have a community of other cigar smokers and often a comfortable place to enjoy your cigars in peace. Both have their benefits and drawbacks but in general they targeting very different aspects of the market.

For the smoker who has his own smoking room and prefers to smoke alone there is almost no incentive to shop at a B&M unless they want an occasional single between internet purchases and they don't want to pay the shipping. On the other hand someone who smokes infrequently and/or doesn't maintain a large personal humidor and appreciates the community of a local smoke shop and has access to a B&M that stocks most of what said smoker is interested in that smoker has almost no incentive to shop online.

In the end the question is not very meaningful. Internet purchasing and B&M purchasing satisfy different requirements once you get past the most basic transaction of trading money for cigars. Many of us do some of each to satisfy both sets of interests.


DOH should have read the whole thread and realized this debate was long past dead. Oh well since I wrote it I'll leave it up anyway.:bh:bh:bh

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The debate may be dead but it went basically like a DNC primary. A lot of opinions. No facts. A few personal attacks and no consensus.

I kill me.

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The only way it could have resembled a DNC Primary more would have been if we had all called press conferences afterwards and claimed victory!

:dance::fu Oh wow man, I'm on a roll :ss

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why are you replying to yourself?

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Perhaps the weed at the B&M is also better than the stuff you get online.

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I was scratching my big belly wondering the same thing.

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well, at least YOU find yourself funny.

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Hardcz finds this most disturbing

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What about the RNC? According to the Fairness Doctrine, equal time must be given to both parties.
What happened to the no politics rule here at CA?

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Hardcz is just talking about cutting cigars in half, what politics?

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andysutherland cut a Lusi in half once.:tu

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This is all my fault.

MCS

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Hardcz is glad Legend is not a commedian, because he would starve to death.

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Agreed.

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Agreed. But I entertain the hell out of myself. I just do. Its true. I can't help it. I make myself giggle like a little girl.

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Hardcz is seriously wondering what happened to this quintuplet blind taste test that was going to be supplied..... he broke out his food stamps and everything.

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Andysutherland entertains himself from time to time, but has learned not to entertain others.