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HK3- 04-23-2011 07:12 AM

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I got an awesome deal on a new AR-15 yesterday! :banger

Will take some photos soon.

MiamiE 04-23-2011 08:26 AM

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Try and not pay more than $20 for a transfer man. Down here theres some shops doing transfers for $50+, which is ridiculous. Others, like the one I use, do the transfers for $15 + $5 background. Although if I have my CWP shouldnt the background be waived...?

MiamiE 04-23-2011 08:26 AM

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Check out www.cdnninvestments.com CHEAPEST prices anywhere. This is mainly who I use. $17 shipping usually.

Montano 04-23-2011 09:00 AM

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http://nickmontano.net/pics/gunz.jpg

Ender 04-23-2011 10:07 AM

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Finally got my CPL!

OLS 04-23-2011 11:48 AM

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If there's no FIRE, does it still count? I have been plinking squirrels out of my upstairs window for 4 years with
a little Crossman pump pellet gun. Killed ONE squirrel, one starling, and scared dozens more with 100's of rounds
expended and thousands of pumps. It was something to do and it kept the pecans ON the tree and the dog food
IN the bowls.

Yesterday got a Beeman 1073 break-barrel pellet gun and in two hours this morning nailed 6 Starlings.
I guess it's all about the accuracy, lol. When I would miss, the dog bowl would go DONGGGG!!! Really loud.
Ironically some of my kills seem to have been riccochets 1/2 inch below the bird right at the bowl rim and
I got the DONNNG and the kill.

HK3- 04-25-2011 07:25 AM

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New to me w/less than 200 rounds through it. Think I got a pretty good deal @ $1300 with everything pictured?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...icture3138.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...icture3137.jpg

replicant_argent 04-25-2011 07:33 AM

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1300 including an EOTech? Yeah, I would say that doesn't suck, Hal. Go get some rounds through it, have a blast!

HK3- 04-25-2011 07:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 1244961)
1300 including an EOTech? Yeah, I would say that doesn't suck, Hal. Go get some rounds through it, have a blast!

;) I figured it was. Looking forward to shooting it.

gettysburgfreak 04-25-2011 09:53 AM

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the eotech alone is 550 bucks so yea pretty good deal.

357 04-25-2011 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender (Post 1243406)
Finally got my CPL!

Congrats Andrew!


Nice pickup Hal. Gotta see some range pics!

Average Joe 04-25-2011 11:07 AM

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Not a bad deal at all. Are the sights Bushmaster or another brand such as KAC?

HK3- 04-25-2011 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Joe (Post 1245221)
Not a bad deal at all. Are the sights Bushmaster or another brand such as KAC?

Looks like it has these added to it-

magpul stock
GG&G rear flip up sight
EoTech sight
3 30 rd clips
1 10 or 15 rd clip
charging handle tactical latch
yankee hill picatinny riser

he also added in 200 rounds of ammo.

Any advantage or disadvantage to changing out to a floating tube with a 3-4 rail system besides being able to add lights, lasers, etc...?

J0eybb 04-25-2011 12:44 PM

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Free float will allow you to use the Fwd grip with compromising accuracy.

JE3146 04-25-2011 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 1245318)
Free float will allow you to use the Fwd grip with compromising accuracy.

Accuracy won't be compromised with that barrel.

You'll lose more accuracy having a chrome bbl(negligible) than you will distorting barrel harmonics by torquing the forward grip.

If anything, a quad rail will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than a handguard mounted rail. And offer more real estate for useless items that will just imbalance your carbine :D

If you do decide to pursue a quad rail, make sure you get a 2 piece one so you won't have to remove the front sight to install it.

HK3- 04-26-2011 06:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 1245790)
Accuracy won't be compromised with that barrel.

You'll lose more accuracy having a chrome bbl(negligible) than you will distorting barrel harmonics by torquing the forward grip.

If anything, a quad rail will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than a handguard mounted rail. And offer more real estate for useless items that will just imbalance your carbine :D

If you do decide to pursue a quad rail, make sure you get a 2 piece one so you won't have to remove the front sight to install it.

Thanks. I had wondered about that front sight. Looks like just two pins hold it on to the barrel.

dogface_313 04-26-2011 09:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 1244949)
New to me w/less than 200 rounds through it. Think I got a pretty good deal @ $1300 with everything pictured?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...icture3138.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...icture3137.jpg

That is a great deal. Be careful keeping batteries in the EOtech at all times, they have a tendency to leak battery acid in EOTechs for some reason.

J0eybb 04-26-2011 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 1245790)
Accuracy won't be compromised with that barrel.

You'll lose more accuracy having a chrome bbl(negligible) than you will distorting barrel harmonics by torquing the forward grip.

If anything, a quad rail will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than a handguard mounted rail. And offer more real estate for useless items that will just imbalance your carbine :D

If you do decide to pursue a quad rail, make sure you get a 2 piece one so you won't have to remove the front sight to install it.

I've shot off a bench with a 'V' rest for the front. I was zero'ing my AR. I rested it on my freefloat handguards. Without realizing it my rifle fell and was resting on the barrel and the POI shifted. Making it a long day of zero'ing as opposed to a quick deal.

I shoot in 3 gun competitions, and have to rest my rifle on different items, walls, barrels, midgets, etc. I dont want the poi to shift, so I went free float.

HK3- 04-26-2011 12:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 1246258)
That is a great deal. Be careful keeping batteries in the EOtech at all times, they have a tendency to leak battery acid in EOTechs for some reason.

Thanks for the tip. :tu I will be changing them out tonight.

MiamiE 04-26-2011 01:19 PM

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I am looking into getting my ATF Form 1 filled out. Going to SBR the Draco I just purchased! :D

MurphysLaw 04-26-2011 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiE (Post 1246500)
I am looking into getting my ATF Form 1 filled out. Going to SBR the Draco I just purchased! :D

Nice! :banger

gettysburgfreak 04-26-2011 02:43 PM

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Went to the range today to finally get some quality time in with my Spikes tactical M4 and had some issues. It worked fine when I would shoot a round at a time but as soon as I tried to shoot multiple rounds quick it would feed the first two rounds no problem but then jam up on the third round causing me to have to rack the round. It did this like clock work the entire 60 rounds I put through it today.

Anyone have any idea what the issue could be? I took it out when I first got it and everything was fine then about 3 weeks ago got a new trigger installed on it but I highly doubt that would cause feed issues.

hscmit 04-26-2011 04:22 PM

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did you clean and oil after the trigger re-build?

gettysburgfreak 04-26-2011 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hscmit (Post 1246702)
did you clean and oil after the trigger re-build?


yes, the gun smith said he oiled it

hscmit 04-26-2011 04:54 PM

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are you mags factory or after market?

gettysburgfreak 04-26-2011 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hscmit (Post 1246741)
are you mags factory or after market?


pmag 30 round. I use PCM ammo as well.

gettysburgfreak 04-26-2011 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 1246753)
pmag 30 round. I use PCM ammo as well.

Its actually PMC ammo, I was mistaken

MiamiE 04-26-2011 06:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 1246707)
yes, the gun smith said he oiled it

These are famous last words. Did YOU check it yourself? ;)

MiamiE 04-26-2011 06:16 PM

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Those AR's are finicky, at least in my experience. I went to the dark side years ago and haven't regretted it one bit. :D

gettysburgfreak 04-26-2011 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiE (Post 1246834)
These are famous last words. Did YOU check it yourself? ;)


Yea I did. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with the gas system? I have never had an issue with my Armalite after almost 600 rounds through it. I heard Spikes was good which is why I bought one but am pretty pissed that its not working right.

MurphysLaw 04-26-2011 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 1246858)
Yea I did. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with the gas system? I have never had an issue with my Armalite after almost 600 rounds through it. I heard Spikes was good which is why I bought one but am pretty pissed that its not working right.

It could be that simple, try going through it and cleaning everything and oiling yourself. From there, it might be just trying to eliminate some of the variables to figure out the cause.

J0eybb 04-26-2011 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiE (Post 1246836)
Those AR's are finicky, at least in my experience. I went to the dark side years ago and haven't regretted it one bit. :D

haha, I haven't cleaned my AR in 3 years. I shoot it at least once a month at three gun. Not one hiccup. I may have to clean it now that I am shooting it suppressed.

Average Joe 04-26-2011 11:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 1246956)
haha, I haven't cleaned my AR in 3 years. I shoot it at least once a month at three gun. Not one hiccup. I may have to clean it now that I am shooting it suppressed.

Same here. Had a ceiner 22LR kit back in the day and shot brick after brick of ammo through it. Never had any problems.

Motor oil is the best lube I have found. Cheapest too.

bonjing 04-26-2011 11:14 PM

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Could you describe the jam. You said that you had to rack the round, did the round not feed, failed to eject, double feed?

gettysburgfreak 04-27-2011 05:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1247085)
Could you describe the jam. You said that you had to rack the round, did the round not feed, failed to eject, double feed?

failed to feed, as if the bolt isnt going all the way back to allow the round to chamber. The round would be stuck between the mag and the chamber.

Eleven 04-27-2011 06:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 1247225)
failed to feed, as if the bolt isnt going all the way back to allow the round to chamber. The round would be stuck between the mag and the chamber.

How do the feed ramps look?

Average Joe 04-27-2011 07:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 1247225)
failed to feed, as if the bolt isnt going all the way back to allow the round to chamber. The round would be stuck between the mag and the chamber.

If the bolt is picking up the next round then it is going back far enough.

Do you have another buffer spring you could try out?

What rounds are you shooting? New in box or reloads? If you're running reloaded military brass then it was most likely ran though a M203 or another MG with a loose chamber. When you full length size the brass it doesn't actually size at the base. The base is fire formed for a much looser chamber, hence it won't chamber in your rifle.

dogface_313 04-27-2011 10:21 AM

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My first thought was, it was the mags you are using, but PMAGs are the way to go.
Even if it is dirty, i mean really dirty it should fire as long as you keep it lubed.
Sometimes on new ARs the Bolt fits very tight inside the bolt carried because the gas rings are very new and create a great seal. make sure that your bolt has a thin coat of CLP on it. Also make sure the little holes on the gas rings are not all lined up, this could cause you to short stroke. Don't be afraid to throw a little lube on your buffer spring and buffer.
I would not use Motor Oil as a lubricant because it tends to be a bit thicker then firearms lubricants and retains more "Gunk". CLP is an all in one, it cleans, lubricates, and protects well but does none of those great. I recommend using a cleaning product then a lubricant such as slip 2000.

Was the Bolt Carried Group purchased with the upper receiver or did you purchase them separately?

mfarre03 04-27-2011 12:12 PM

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I never even touched one of those Pmags, you guys suck, LOL. Thanks to the Libs here in NY we are only allowed preban fun mags...lol. For all my AR platform answers I like to frequent AR15.com, good group of guys over there.

bonjing 04-27-2011 12:53 PM

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You guys can't even get 10 rounders?



Quote:

Originally Posted by mfarre03 (Post 1247531)
I never even touched one of those Pmags, you guys suck, LOL. Thanks to the Libs here in NY we are only allowed preban fun mags...lol. For all my AR platform answers I like to frequent AR15.com, good group of guys over there.


mfarre03 04-27-2011 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1247550)
You guys can't even get 10 rounders?

Come on man, I said funmags...LOL, of course we can get 10 rounders but how much fun are those??? :sl

HK3- 04-28-2011 12:33 PM

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Who puts ONLY an EoTech on a .50 BMG? :sh

mfarre03 04-28-2011 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 1248554)
Who puts ONLY an EoTech on a .50 BMG? :sh

Maybe its his home defense rifle, did you ever think of that? :sl

HK3- 04-29-2011 06:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfarre03 (Post 1248649)
Maybe its his home defense rifle, did you ever think of that? :sl

Sometimes I feel like a real idiot... ;):r

Can you imagine firing a BMG inside your home? AWESOME! :r

Barcode 04-29-2011 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 1249241)
Can you imagine firing a BMG inside your home? AWESOME! :r

That makes my ears bleed just thinking about that

SNKBYT 05-01-2011 10:45 AM

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finally picked up my "Military Retirement" yesterday (2006 700REM .308 w/scope & bipod)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...7/DSCN0657.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...7/DSCN0658.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...7/DSCN0659.jpg

Nathan King 05-01-2011 10:51 AM

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http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/a.../IvoryLeft.jpg

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/a...voryRight3.jpg

MurphysLaw 05-02-2011 09:43 AM

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Nice rifle Alex, the 700 is on my list to buy once I finish school..

HK3- 05-02-2011 09:46 AM

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Nice rifle and nice colt!

elderboy02 05-02-2011 10:47 AM

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Nice Alex! I badly want a Rem 700 in a .308. It just sucks as there are no ranges here in Cincinnati that are over 25 yards :(


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