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OLS 03-06-2013 02:38 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I am pretty sure this doesn't MATTER, but I was shooting a lens test today with a Nikkor 24mm-50mm 4-5.6 lens today
and I had the D700 all wacked out on some kind of crazy settings since I was not paying attention and was in a hurry
to get it done at lunch, and I took this shot of one of my bosses cigar figures (why he has em I have no idea) and after
the pic fired, I checked the ISO, cause it said in the info window 3200, and I thought CRAP, these are all gonna be grainy
as hell, light level or not. The room was well lit. I guess the test is a DIM room at 3200 which I will do, well hell, have done,
and see. But this shot is at 3200 ISO and it is clear as hell. I was surprised.

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2d3fbd4e.jpg

94% Crop....color's for 5HI+, but I like that camera.

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...pse0ec8294.jpg

Wide angle range test...accidentally 3200 ISO again, no flash

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psb23c2534.jpg

OH, yeah, OK, there's the noise....LOL. Still I do like the camera. If I ever figure out how to
keep it all together long enough to shoot well with it.

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psb52a4cd0.jpg

Might have a bad pixel, too....I can deal with that, though.

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psac05a052.jpg

emopunker2004 03-06-2013 06:10 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
That's the main advantage to a full frame DSLR Brad. They have much lower noise at higher ISOs than a crop-sensor DSLR.

emopunker2004 03-06-2013 06:12 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Well I got my PC in. It's set up now. Just downloaded classic skin to make this stupid Windows 8 have a classic start menu on it. Hauling the PC off to work tonight to have PS CS6 and LR4 put on it :noon

OLS 03-07-2013 07:53 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I already broke my pledge to only use my DSLR for normal focal length photography.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF, lol. Lensalympics has begun. Damn you DSLR!
I need to actually take some photos and stop testing lenses and cameras. I have
bought FOUR DSLRs in two weeks. Shocking. If I see a good used deal, I think of a
relative that would like a DSLR, lol. The odd winner of the photo quality games was
this weird, OLD, Olympus Evolt E-330. It was the first 'live view' DSLR, and it was not
what I would call an excellent iteration of Live View. But the camera takes really great
photos, and its only a Four Thirds sensor. I am not gonna say it takes better pics than
a D700, but as I have yet to bring that wild stallion to bay, FOR NOW it does, lol. It is
NOT easy to master that D700. My photos so far are mostly high Rez mistakes, lol.

But for a $99 used camera body, and a $69 dollar used lens, I was STUNNED by the color
and clarity and contrast and quality. Stunned.

Steve 03-07-2013 09:34 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804190)
Well I got my PC in. It's set up now. Just downloaded classic skin to make this stupid Windows 8 have a classic start menu on it. Hauling the PC off to work tonight to have PS CS6 and LR4 put on it :noon

I wish I had LR. I have an earlier version of CS, but LR is a bit pricy for me right now. Later...

OLS 03-07-2013 02:18 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Pfft....I have Photoshop SIX...not CS6, but 6.
You people with your NEW software really get my grits, lol.
I may have to get off my ornery old man chair and get a newer version
though, because while I can correct for a lot of things in 6, nothing is
semi-auto like in the newer photoshop. And by that I mean barrel distortion
and what not...

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 02:33 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Brad, Adobe has made CS2 free to everyone now FYI, well basically.
http://majorgeeks.com/Adobe_Photosho...ree_d8081.html

OLS 03-07-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
WHAT?!?!??? I highly doubt those tight-a55ed basterds would do THAT. Lemme check this sitcho out and
see if its not just a bootleg, lol. I'd be a fool not to upgrade if that were the case. thanks for the heads up.

Liking that new camera??


Hmmm... Sketchy.......but then again, I am a sketchy guy. Thanks.

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 07:58 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I mean they have the DL and they give u the key so...

OLS 03-08-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
My OLDEST digital camera, cheap is not the word for it, and apparently it wins
all kinds of awards for durability, too....well, not REAL awards, but the damn thing
is still working. If I bought it back in 2001 it HAD to be almost discontinued then.
Owing to how I'm so cheap and all. Now it serves very well as a BBQ pit 'proof of
smoking' camera.

[http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6016/5...469e1bf6a4.jpg
St. Louis Cathedral, NO, LA by MemphisBrad, on Flickr]


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7d4e767d.jpg

shark 03-09-2013 08:42 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://i.imgur.com/5cRnncX.jpg?1

emopunker2004 03-09-2013 11:09 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Had a couple cool cars set up near where I live...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8...d8c1b664_b.jpg
IMG_1101 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8105/8...2c1fa75d_b.jpg
IMG_1092 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-09-2013 11:31 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8...6e437479_b.jpg
IMG_1101 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-09-2013 07:43 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8...045e8dda_b.jpg
IMG_1092-2 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

OLS 03-09-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
That Rat Rod VW is cool...that is an actual thing now, nice cars that look like 5hit.
I never would have guessed it but its so.

Today was a humbling experience. I am used to my good point and shoot cameras, they
have active viewfinders that SHOW you what you are doing. If your settings are going to
make you shoot a dark shot, the VIEWFINDER shows you a dark picture. If you are about
to blow it out, it blows out your viewfinder picture. These damn ACTUAL TTL viewfinders
mess me up something awful. I am SO lazy and SO used to shooting how I shoot, that today
I took 100 5hitty pictures. I was not paying attention to what I was doing, in the wrong white
balance settings half the time today, and always over-exposed and just all-around shitty.
It was humbling to say the least. I don't ever shoot AUTO with a camera, but when I shoot
in Program or Shutter Priority or aperture priority, I don't expect to come home with 5hit.
Humbling, that's all I can say. At least in the bar I had it set up right....almost.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps93b86591.jpg

emopunker2004 03-09-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Brad, that's the nice thing about cameras that shoot in RAW. You can almost always go back and fix that in post

emopunker2004 03-09-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
A quick lightroom edit of a zoo pic from a lil while back


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...1a4a404e_b.jpg
IMG_0095 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-10-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
We're going to St. Augustine for the night. Hopefully I can get some nice pictures.

OLS 03-10-2013 09:29 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
RAW wouldn't have solved NEARLY enough of the issues I had. Actually that is not all true, let's just say that when
I see that crap on a card, I FORMAT the card, I do not go home and try to fix anything. The bottom line is really
my eyes. I am so dejected that life does this to everyone someday, your eyes turn to 5hit and it takes the real joy
out of photography. It makes you SLOW and takes the flow out of your game. You have to watch everything and
you can't take your eye from the eyepiece and just punch some buttons. You have to put on glasses and make
adjustments and then you have to take em off to look in the VF again. Its just sad. As with everything that is also
sad concerning vision, though, eventually you can learn the THING and know more by feel and mental map about
what to hit and when, and to feel more confident that you can speed up the process and take a little more for granted
that you are taking good pictures. I just need to work with both my new cameras and take a LOT of pictures and
make all the mistakes.

I just thought that with all my years of digital and general photographic experience that I would have been able to
pick up that camera and basically hit the ground running. THAT'S my main issue, the disappointment that it was
not to be so easy.

OLS 03-10-2013 02:42 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
It took me some thinking last night, not having had the memories of the control panel on my camera to tell me what
I did that was so wrong yesterday. Then in cold light of morning it dawned on me. I forgot one of the most basic
things I know. I had a FAST lens with me, and I saw a flower emerging from a very fuzzy bud, and I thought, OK,
I am gonna blur the crap out of the background. But in opening the 1.8 lens up all the way, I forgot that the camera
is only going to be able to compensate with shutter speed until it runs out of possible compensations to help me with
the proper exposure. I HAVE several neutral density filters but didn't have one with me. It was gonna be overcast,
so I didn't want to take it and lose it or scratch it. The shots I took looked like crap because I wasn't thinking about
what I was doing for long enough to make a good decision.

OLS 03-11-2013 07:08 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Saw a few new birds yesterday. I never really LOOKED before, even though my back yard is kind of an oasis,
and draws all the birds in the neighborhood eventually. But I saw a Brown Creeper yesterday, which
I had never seen in 50 years of knowing about birds. Not an amazing sight or anything, but still everything new
is great to me. Starting to see Goldfinches, too, that was new this year. Growing up in LA, I never really saw
Goldfinches. But the photo of the day for me is my new favorite bird, the Red-Breasted Nuthatch. These are
brave birds and they like me for some reason.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf929f8b6.jpg

Blak Smyth 03-11-2013 07:11 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1805478)
A quick lightroom edit of a zoo pic from a lil while back


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...1a4a404e_b.jpg

Except for the wire that is an awesome pic. :tu

OLS 03-11-2013 07:43 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I am not sure if he knows the tool in Photoshop to fix it yet. He told me he was gonna fix it once he got Photoshop,
but when he DID, he used it to boost the color, lol. It's the one that looks like a rubber stamp, J-dog. Pick a radius
with the slider, then ALT-click the part of the pic you want to use to cover WITH, then rub the stamp over the area
you want to cover up. With a complicated background like that, it will be a little easier.

WAIT, he said LIGHTROOM....sorry. Proceed, lol. Justin Photoshopping photos does not necessarily decrease your
integrity. Your still the man.

OLS 03-11-2013 09:47 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
1 Attachment(s)
Justin doesn't allow saving of his Flickr photos, so I had to steal it here....

Fixed it 4 ya.

Also, I was gonna post it on my photobucket so I could attach it here in
full scale, but THAT is illegal.

I also didn't like that stick pointing at her eye.

emopunker2004 03-11-2013 12:13 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
:r i havent even opend photoshop yet. everything so far has been in Lightroom.

Thanks Brad.

emopunker2004 03-11-2013 02:17 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Here's two from our visit to St. Augustine yesterday. I just Fake-HDR'd them. I'll mess with them again later.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8244/8...07f730cd_b.jpg
Lightner Museum by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8392/8...617fc542_b.jpg
St. Augustine Pier by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-11-2013 05:08 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
More pictures from this weekend.

Wife on the beach

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8...93f30b67_b.jpg
IMG_1193 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Sign on the pier

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8...b42163f2_b.jpg
IMG_1113 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-11-2013 05:17 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
St. Augustine Alligator Farm

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8...f577508d_b.jpg
IMG_1234 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8...87d794f3_b.jpg
IMG_1317 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8...b76eb1cb_b.jpg
IMG_1252 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8...dcbab892_b.jpg
IMG_1258 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8...2f79b0a5_b.jpg
IMG_1268 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

emopunker2004 03-11-2013 05:30 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Alligator Farm Cont.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8...b959d217_b.jpg
IMG_1436 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8249/8...f45b6e01_b.jpg
IMG_1235 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8...cd8cd4a1_b.jpg
IMG_1451 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8390/8...5a9d1af3_b.jpg
IMG_1372 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

OLS 03-12-2013 06:07 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Feels like I was there.

hammondc 03-12-2013 07:21 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I like the pier pic. What was done in post processing?

emopunker2004 03-12-2013 08:11 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1806255)
I like the pier pic. What was done in post processing?

Messed highlights and shadows, upper the clarity and contrast. It's basically a single exposure HDR.


I have to repost the picture of my wife at the beach, I deleted it because I noticed the hair tie on her wrist. Hair tie gone now.

hotreds 03-12-2013 08:17 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Nice work, Justin!

shark 03-12-2013 05:06 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I'm seldom satisfied with my photos. What do I need to do to improve them?

emopunker2004 03-12-2013 05:45 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Post some examples Ron so we can get a feel for them and tell us what it is that u dislike

OLS 03-13-2013 06:55 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shark (Post 1806467)
I'm seldom satisfied with my photos. What do I need to do to improve them?

I will tell you only what I know, and what I didn't learn from 30 years in television,
I have been learning lately from reading all of this

There are enough articles in there to keep you busy for weeks. After you have read about half of it,
you realize that on one hand, the guy is extremely knowledgable and helpful, and on the other hand,
he IS ONLY one photographer, and they tend to be opinionated and think they are right all the time.
Like me.
But if you can remember he is only one guy, his help is invaluable and insightful. If you want to just
skip RIGHT TO WHY you can't take good pictures, you might find the most immediate help in the articles
that have those types of titles. He is very blunt about why most people take boring pictures and strives
to help you break out of that mold. Some people here may really benefit from this library of help,
some may even toss him a few bucks or buy gear through the links he supplies to help him avoid working
a real job ever again. Very little in there is what I would term useless.

Good luck with your quest to take better photos. I think we all want that. You should create a photobucket
or flickr page where we can check out the things you are talking about. Flickr is not the best choice because
it is usually a pride and criticism kind of environment. Photobucket is more useful for, well, like a lot of us do here,
store photos that we like to post in threads and stuff, where the pics don't clog up the asylum servers. Stuff
like this.......

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...psda1aa666.gif

But also stuff like this.....

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...e319copyxx.jpg

On Photobucket though, there are not the same kinds of review and criticism, so its a little safer to store
things there that you might want people here to help you with. When I say criticism, too, I do not mean
just BAD stuff, I mean Flickr is a place where people want others to see and comment on their work. If you
want to store things on the bucket, you can use their html tags to post them here like I did with my Smokies
stream shot, and we can look at what bothers you and aid you in stopping it, lol.

.

dave 03-13-2013 07:41 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shark (Post 1806467)
I'm seldom satisfied with my photos. What do I need to do to improve them?

That may not be a bad place to be in. As long as your dissatisfaction doesn't discourage you too much. There is SO much info on the internet that it will be good, but possibly overwhelming. I highly suggest that you search for camera clubs or societies in your area and attend a meeting or two. You'll likely find some very passionate folks eager to help.

http://www.photo-ne.com/biglist/page13.htm

OLS 03-13-2013 08:13 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I agree with Dave, too. If you are not TOTALLY dejected, then striving to find ways to take better pictures
is about as healthy a place to be in as you could be. Satisfaction and complacency in any art form is a death
sentence for creativity. If you want to improve, you probably will. Read this as a start.

OLS 03-13-2013 09:37 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Another thing to note, I doubt seriously you will find many people posting anything anywhere on the net
that has not been jacked up with Photoshop or at least touched by it in some way. More brilliant colors can
be had with polarizing filters, but a lot of people can't help messing with everything in Photoshop, BECAUSE
THEY CAN, frankly. I know I don't post anything that I haven't adjusted in SOME way. Digital changed everything.
So if you feel your pics don't stack up to other photos that are essentially the same, it might also be that you have
some post-processing to do to make yourself more satisfied. HDR is all the rage now, taking everything out of the
shadows and blasting away with the electric color. I like about 1 out of every 20 HDR photos I see. I think I
am stuck in the past, where life looks normal on a photograph, because there was no such thing as HDR processing.
I will admit I really, REALLY like it when it adds to the photo. But for my narrow taste, it often doesn't.

And look at me. I wanted the photo of the Alum Cave Trail above to be just like I saw it with my eye, so I polarized
it on the camera, then took it to Photoshop and boosted the saturation til it was EXACTLY like I saw it. Then I added
more, lol. So remember, do as I say, not as I do . :r

emopunker2004 03-13-2013 03:01 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8...0745c4dd_b.jpg
Crystal vignette by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8...222eafd6_b.jpg
IMG_1490 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

shark 03-13-2013 04:18 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1806657)
Another thing to note, I doubt seriously you will find many people posting anything anywhere on the net
that has not been jacked up with Photoshop or at least touched by it in some way. More brilliant colors can
be had with polarizing filters, but a lot of people can't help messing with everything in Photoshop, BECAUSE
THEY CAN, frankly. I know I don't post anything that I haven't adjusted in SOME way. Digital changed everything.
So if you feel your pics don't stack up to other photos that are essentially the same, it might also be that you have
some post-processing to do to make yourself more satisfied. HDR is all the rage now, taking everything out of the
shadows and blasting away with the electric color. I like about 1 out of every 20 HDR photos I see. I think I
am stuck in the past, where life looks normal on a photograph, because there was no such thing as HDR processing.
I will admit I really, REALLY like it when it adds to the photo. But for my narrow taste, it often doesn't.

And look at me. I wanted the photo of the Alum Cave Trail above to be just like I saw it with my eye, so I polarized
it on the camera, then took it to Photoshop and boosted the saturation til it was EXACTLY like I saw it. Then I added
more, lol. So remember, do as I say, not as I do . :r


I guess my main problem is I'm highly critical of myself, regardless of what I do. lol! I'm a perfectionist. I already understand the basics: f-stop, shutter speed, depth of field, the rule of thirds, optical filters, etc. IMO I need to practice more on the subject matter to make my pics more interesting. Then again, what pics that I take that I may deem boring may be raved about by someone else.

I use a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28 camera, which is nice but it's limited in what it can do.

emopunker2004 03-13-2013 04:19 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Care to share any Ron?

emopunker2004 03-13-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8522/8...222156bd_b.jpg
hmm2-3 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8...3bf3f9a6_b.jpg
hmm by emopunker2004, on Flickr

OLS 03-14-2013 06:32 AM

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I will agree with you that that Lumix is a good camera, and I think I am one of the only people on this thread
that had a LOOOOoong history of shooting super-zooms and posting that stuff here, too. There is a preponderence
of DSLRs here. Those cameras prove that a person can still take a good photo with ANY camera. I bought my sister
a FZ18 a few months ago because I believe in superzooms as an upgrade to compact point and shoots, despite
them basically both having the same sensor. I believe if you want to take nice photos, you need to be able to
turn a few knobs. Those Lumix cameras have very nice lenses, and they TRY like hell, like Fuji, to shoot as well
as possible in low light. If you DO know the ins and outs of light control, then concentrate heavily on
composition, MOSTLY remembering that anything in a photo that is not adding to the composition is taking away
from it. MOVE your body, not your zoom all the time, take a dozen photos of the same thing from 6-10 different spots.
I can't help you with the hyper-criticism, and like Emo said, if you can't show us a few photos you hate, we can't be
of much help. Share, my man.

OLS 03-14-2013 06:43 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
[http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6095/6...163775f993.jpg
Fall Mosaic by MemphisBrad, on Flickr]

This is one of my favorite photos I have taken, but it is not a 'good' photo. It is only fair.
You can SEE easily that had I walked to the right a few feet and recomposed, it could have
been EPIC. Instead you see brown, ugly vines and the back of a building. You can SEE that
the other BG would have been nice fall colors. Ehh...it was a picture, I saw it and took it.
I didn't THINK to take 10 pics of it. My mistake. But I LOVE IT. If I don't love a photo,
it doesn't go on my Flickr pages. I use Photobucket for the CRAP I shoot, lol.
But my photos on Flickr are pleasing to ME, and if other people like seeing them I am happy,
and if they compliment them, I am happy, but they are up there to store and share the ones
I LIKE, and somewhat to compete with my friend Jesse, who I think has a REAL flair for seeing through a lens.
He probably hates that I even HAVE a Flickr page, I only did it because of how HIS photos
made me FEEL. I wanted to feel like that about my own photos. Go through all your stuff
in thumbnail size and see if at least ten photos JUMP off the screen at thumbnail size.
Post em up on the bucket or on flickr and share em. Share a few with us. It is obvious
you WANT some form of help or advice, so you have to prepare to GET IT, good or bad.
You can't hover on the egde.

xxx_busa 03-14-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Awesome SHOTS Thank You !!!

OLS 03-14-2013 04:08 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I am sorry, Shark, I completely forgot to remember who I was talking to. You and I hung out at the Shack.
I have been way off my game for a long time. I remember your camera and everything. Now that I have the face
together with the issues, I am even leaning further in. Very interested to know the kinds of things you are shooting that
you don't care for.

shark 03-14-2013 05:05 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Let's start with this one. Give me an honest critique, other than the foreground grassy area is overexposed:


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps7bc64176.jpg

emopunker2004 03-14-2013 05:18 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Ron, it's a great shot overall. If u had that image in a RAW file, the overexposed foreground could be fixed easily.

shark 03-14-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1807327)
Ron, it's a great shot overall. If u had that image in a RAW file, the overexposed foreground could be fixed easily.

yeah, RAW files are pretty convenient!


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