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jaymz 12-11-2008 12:31 AM

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jambalaya is gone.

showing yesterdays deal @ 29.99 (sold out)

Heliofire 12-11-2008 12:32 AM

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yeah prices are back.

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:32 AM

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I think some programmer in "oh sh!t" mode finally had a stroke of brillliance and just reset the clock backwards........

alfbacca 12-11-2008 12:33 AM

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That was fun while it lasted lol

Heliofire 12-11-2008 12:33 AM

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i guess we will find out in the morning if we get the cigars.

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:35 AM

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still no luck checking out... there's a "few" sticks in there.. God help them if I can slip this order in there :dance:


5 Vegas 'A' - Atomic [2/5]
5 $0.00

Gran Habano COR Fumas Toro
8 $0.00

Padilla Series '68 Robusto 10pk-bdl
24 $0.00

Oliveros Eight Zero Toro 10pk-bdl
15 $0.00

Partagas BLACK Clasico [2/5]
30 $0.00

CI Singles (1 Cigars) $3.90 $3.90
1 x $3.90 - Gurkha Sherpa Toro

icehog3 12-11-2008 12:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 113249)
damn.... now its really over!

Thank God, I almost ordered some Partagas Blacks...what was I thinking??? :r

papajohn67 12-11-2008 12:36 AM

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Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

JE3146 12-11-2008 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 113259)
Thank God, I almost ordered some Partagas Blacks...what was I thinking??? :r

Could be worse... you could have ordered Gurkhas :D

Snake Hips 12-11-2008 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn67 (Post 113260)
Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

Yeah...

bobarian 12-11-2008 12:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn67 (Post 113260)
Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

All my smokes are going to the Troops if this goes through. I doubt it will but I have two confirmation emails for 100 smokes each.

Pyrokin 12-11-2008 12:39 AM

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I had just decided to go back and place an order too lol, guess you're not allowed to hesitate =P

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn67 (Post 113260)
Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

:hm



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YES

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:42 AM

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:r :r :r :r :r

so uhh... the good news is, my smokes are still in my shopping cart






the bad news, I am no longer interested in checking out, since uhh, they're not free anymore :r

ucubed 12-11-2008 12:44 AM

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lol i have like 8 email confirmations for every single one of those...but only a couple quantities each...

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:45 AM

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whadda ya think guys, should I go for it? :tg


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GKitty 12-11-2008 12:46 AM

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omg... that's nuts. Sorry you missed out, man.


I'm going back to bed. Night all.

spectrrr 12-11-2008 12:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 113270)
omg... that's nuts. Sorry you missed out, man.


I'm going back to bed. Night all.

nope, I got confirmation emails for about 180 sticks, just missed out on the motherload :)

night night. fun times!

icehog3 12-11-2008 12:48 AM

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Only $2400? It's a steal!! :r

CigaSkills9 12-11-2008 12:52 AM

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Huh? What? This cant be real! OH WELL!! let's see what happens......

bigloo 12-11-2008 12:56 AM

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I got one order in 10 Partagas black. If they ship, straight to MACMS for the troops as bobarian suggested.

spectrrr 12-11-2008 01:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigloo (Post 113278)
I got one order in 10 Partagas black. If they ship, straight to MACMS for the troops as bobarian suggested.

agreed.

CI, if your reading this, please honor your deal. we promise we'll send em to the troops, just like you say you support on your website :D

papajohn67 12-11-2008 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 113265)
:hm



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YES


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:hm




Why?

spectrrr 12-11-2008 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn67 (Post 113282)
:hm




:hm




:hm




Why?

for the troops of course :usa

elderboy02 12-11-2008 05:01 AM

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Looks like you guys had some fun last night :r

taltos 12-11-2008 05:14 AM

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Amazingly dishonorable behavior on behalf of some folks who claim to conduct themselves in an honorable manner. Exploiting a programming error is no different than just going in and stealing this stuff from your local b&m. I suspect that many here also would jump the cashier at Walmart is she made a 5 cent error in favor of the store while making your change. I wish that I had seen this while it was ongoing and said something at that time.:fl

maddman 12-11-2008 05:34 AM

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The orders should be check before shipping so the wont make it out the door is their is an error, How do they honestly know this is not legit? that they put X quantity free to generate a crap ton of traffic?

Starscream 12-11-2008 05:41 AM

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It must be fixed now. Item sold out.

rsamos 12-11-2008 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maddman (Post 113366)
The orders should be check before shipping so the wont make it out the door is their is an error, How do they honestly know this is not legit? that they put X quantity free to generate a crap ton of traffic?

While I doubt that would be the case, if it were it seems they would have put a cap on how many of each offer you could place an order for. They get the same traffic from selling one bundle of 10 to one customer that they do for five.

neoflex 12-11-2008 06:56 AM

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I think it was a programming mistake and it went on for as long as it did because of the hours of the night that it was live. I bet someone was called and woken up in the middle of the night to fix the error. If it were a scheme to create traffic they would have pulled the stunt during daytime hours IMHO.
I too am surprised at how many tried to take advantage of the deals and seem to have gone nuts. Even if it were legit and CI was feeling generous, have some self control and put in orders for realistic sized orders. I'm Sure I may take some abuse for that statements but I just had to express my feelings on the situation.

MikeyC 12-11-2008 07:28 AM

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I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

Heliofire 12-11-2008 07:32 AM

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For the record I joked about ordering 75 units of Gurkhas, but did not really order them. I don't Gurkhas it was a joke to a few people that know me that were posting in the thread. I actually only order 2 moni tins, because I figured that they will either cancel my order or change the price and send my sticks. I know some of you are mad that people were placing orders like crazy, but I honestly believe that none of us, who saw this going on, actually believed that the orders will be filled for free.

It was just funny to see big ol' CI, the bane of many small B&M's, offering sticks for free. I mean it was already difficult for my local B&M to compete with CI's prices, but CI offering sticks for free is just impossible to compete with now.:D

bazookajoe 12-11-2008 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 113352)
Amazingly dishonorable behavior on behalf of some folks who claim to conduct themselves in an honorable manner. Exploiting a programming error is no different than just going in and stealing this stuff from your local b&m. I suspect that many here also would jump the cashier at Walmart is she made a 5 cent error in favor of the store while making your change. I wish that I had seen this while it was ongoing and said something at that time.:fl

:tpd: And exploiting a mistake and then saying it's for the troops is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. Do you also think it's ok to steal and then give the loot to charity? The end justifies the means? I doubt if any of the troop supporters want donations you acquired this way. :2

BlackIrish 12-11-2008 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 113516)
I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

I expect that they're trying to figure out how to handle this. My guess is that they don't simply cancel any confirmed orders but send an email explaining that it was a glitch and giving the option to buy at the correct price.

papajohn67 12-11-2008 08:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bazookajoe (Post 113583)
:tpd: And exploiting a mistake and then saying it's for the troops is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. Do you also think it's ok to steal and then give the loot to charity? The end justifies the means? I doubt if any of the troop supporters want donations you acquired this way. :2

"The end justifies the means"...what would Mr. Machiavelli have done?

GKitty 12-11-2008 08:35 AM

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Wow... the morning crowd is so disapproving of our shenanigans.

FWIW, that's all this was for me: Shenanigans.

Did I place an order? Yes, a couple in fact.

Do I honestly expect them to send me the sticks? Absolutely not.

I don't think anyone honestly expects CI to honor this deal. This was a prank, a lark, a game to amuse those who were here. Although it would be hysterical if the 4,000 sticks of a cigar someone claims to hate actually showed up at their door.

I hear and understand the opinions, concerns, and criticisms of our behavior last night. However, if I'd had a concern like this, I would have approached the people I consider friends and acquaintances via PM to discuss the questionable behavior. What I would not have done is climb up on a soapbox and call strangers looters and thieves with no further insight into their actions than a thread of random commentary.

Congratulations, you've officially taken all the fun out of this little game.

neoflex 12-11-2008 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GKitty (Post 113642)
Wow... the morning crowd is so disapproving of our shenanigans.

FWIW, that's all this was for me: Shenanigans.

Did I place an order? Yes, a couple in fact.

Do I honestly expect them to send me the sticks? Absolutely not.

I don't think anyone honestly expects CI to honor this deal. This was a prank, a lark, a game to amuse those who were here. Although it would be hysterical if the 4,000 sticks of a cigar someone claims to hate actually showed up at their door.

I hear and understand the opinions, concerns, and criticisms of our behavior last night. However, if I'd had a concern like this, I would have approached the people I consider friends and acquaintances via PM to discuss the questionable behavior. What I would not have done is climb up on a soapbox and call strangers looters and thieves with no further insight into their actions than a thread of random commentary.

Congratulations, you've officially taken all the fun out of this little game.

My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

Starscream 12-11-2008 08:59 AM

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Somebody open a window; it's getting stuffy in here.

n3uka 12-11-2008 09:02 AM

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...rama_Llama.jpg


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Ace$nyper 12-11-2008 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 113516)
I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

Basically, I do remember a case where amazon ate it on a plasma TV once though.

I mean moral debate aside us having some fun with it sped up getting it fixed.

It was a good laugh, and I'm still kicking myself for not getting in on the fun.

Those phillies are going to be gross :r

Cbaker8 12-11-2008 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 113680)
My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

Whats wrong with doing it for fun, hoping that the order would be shipped..... but not expecting it to be? In the world of buyer beware shouldn't the reverse also work.... retailer beware?

If you think about it.... this is a golden opportunity for CI to really EARN some really loyal customers... if they decide they should honor the deals then I would suspect it would lead some people to order even more from them in the future, and a TON of free advertising across the magical internet box....

replicant_argent 12-11-2008 10:02 AM

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Very clearly NOT BOTL behavior. Use whatever justification you want for "playing a game."

bazookajoe 12-11-2008 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 113680)
My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them?...

Exactly. Good harmless fun, please. And if it was a game, very nice - I'm sure CI appreciates it while they're busy trying to sort out the mess, keep from shipping free orders and still fulfill orders for people who actually paid for theirs.

As far as soapboxing, if pointing out unethical behavior (or in the case of a "game", poor judgement) is labeled as being on a soapbox so be it, but it looks more like you're trying to deflect attention rather than take responsibility for your behavior. :2

Drat 12-11-2008 11:11 AM

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I love the guys over at CI and hope that the "fun" doesn't cause too many headaches fixing.

This did make for a few minutes of entertaining reading this morning though.

s0leful0ne 12-11-2008 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 113680)
My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

Yes it was fun and games, and did we hope that the orders would be shipped? Sure. Do we believe that it was going to happen? No way.

We placed them, we joked about bombing our friends. We joked about opening up a b&M that only sold bundles. We had a laugh, and I think it is uncalled for to imply that the people that enjoyed ordering on obscene amount of cigars they didnt want "theives". Though personally not offended (we all steal in some capacity) I take great offense for my friends who are far from reprehensible and do not deserve such slander in an open thread.

Shake your heads if you please but when all is said and done, we had our fun and meant no harm.

/serious

btw...on a less serious note...Why havent they cancelled my order yet???

Ace$nyper 12-11-2008 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drat (Post 113930)
I love the guys over at CI and hope that the "fun" doesn't cause too many headaches fixing.

This did make for a few minutes of entertaining reading this morning though.

I'm sure they know how to run a site, and glitches do happen.

I spoke with a friend who does web design he said fixing it won't be too much a head ache for them unless they use a very odd program for the orders.

gettysburgfreak 12-11-2008 11:50 AM

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crap, missed out on all the fun

neoflex 12-11-2008 11:54 AM

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If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

bazookajoe 12-11-2008 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 113998)
If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

Probably referring to my comments - people see what they want to see...

GKitty 12-11-2008 12:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 113998)
If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazookajoe (Post 114005)
Probably referring to my comments - people see what they want to see...

You are correct. No one ever used the word "thief" they just told people that they were "stealing". It's my understanding that one who steals is a "thief". My apologies for using transitive thinking. Once again, I seem to be behaving inappropriately.

There will be a public chastisement this evening after work. Please bring your own canes, I don't have enough to go around.

Good day. :lv


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