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icehog3 12-06-2011 02:14 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Yes....thanks to drugs, and all the irreparable harm that quitting them 25 years ago has done to me.

68TriShield 12-06-2011 03:11 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
I prefer not to be in any camp.

markem 12-06-2011 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 1494225)
I prefer not to be in any camp.

Then why do you belong to that nudist camp?

68TriShield 12-06-2011 03:35 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
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Originally Posted by markem (Post 1494231)
Then why do you belong to that nudist camp?

That camp doesn't count Mark :sl

mosesbotbol 12-06-2011 04:02 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
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Originally Posted by Parshooter (Post 1493949)
Thanks to drugs.

Lennon & McCarthy are the song writing pair of all time.

The Poet 12-06-2011 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Parshooter (Post 1493949)
Thanks to drugs.

Though I am reluctant to bring this up, it remains a valid reason why you may be "missing it" with the Beatles. The use of hallucinogens such as mescaline, psilocybin, and most notably LSD not only affected the perception of the members of The Beatles (and other bands) but also effected their music as well. It also follows as the night the day that the understanding of their music by the fans was changed by the fans' own usage of these substances. This change in their music began as early as Revolver and Rubber Soul, but reached a mind-expanded peak with Sgt. Pepper. You can believe this or not, but there's no way you can truly "understand" an album like Sgt. Pepper (or Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, or Traffic's Low Spark Of High Heel Boys, or many others) unless you've "dropped" an hour before you listen to them. Under the influence, you then can grasp what they are doing, both musically and lyrically, in a way that's just not possible when you're "straight". But once you have this revelation, this epiphany, you can never hear it the same way again, no matter what condition your condition is in. Me, I've dropped nothing stronger than an Advil for nearly 40 years, yet I still "get it."

I'm certainly not suggesting you return to the days of Owsley's blotter and windowpane LSD-25 in order to find out what you are missing, but merely point out the potential roadblock to this. And it does not mean one can't appreciate their music (or not, as the case may be) without chemical aids. One does not need to be a mathematician to enjoy the music of J.S. Bach, yet such a knowledge will give one a more complete understanding. That's all I'm saying here.

pnoon 12-06-2011 07:10 PM

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Something fun to lighten the mood. Yet topical

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/12-ex...ut-popular-mus

MNSmoker 12-06-2011 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1494388)
Something fun to lighten the mood. Yet topical

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/12-ex...ut-popular-mus

We're done as a society.

icehog3 12-06-2011 10:51 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1494248)
Lennon & McCarthy are the song writing pair of all time.

Paul McCartney wasn't bad either. :)

Volusianator 12-07-2011 01:59 AM

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:tu:tu:tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1492256)

Beatles? What's not to get about them? They were doing things nobody was doing. Don't compare them to today.


Lumpold 12-07-2011 04:33 AM

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Y'all need to get hold of Mellow Dubmarine

Stephen 12-07-2011 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1494255)
Though I am reluctant to bring this up, it remains a valid reason why you may be "missing it" with the Beatles. The use of hallucinogens such as mescaline, psilocybin, and most notably LSD not only affected the perception of the members of The Beatles (and other bands) but also effected their music as well. It also follows as the night the day that the understanding of their music by the fans was changed by the fans' own usage of these substances. This change in their music began as early as Revolver and Rubber Soul, but reached a mind-expanded peak with Sgt. Pepper. You can believe this or not, but there's no way you can truly "understand" an album like Sgt. Pepper (or Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, or Traffic's Low Spark Of High Heel Boys, or many others) unless you've "dropped" an hour before you listen to them. Under the influence, you then can grasp what they are doing, both musically and lyrically, in a way that's just not possible when you're "straight". But once you have this revelation, this epiphany, you can never hear it the same way again, no matter what condition your condition is in. Me, I've dropped nothing stronger than an Advil for nearly 40 years, yet I still "get it."

I'm certainly not suggesting you return to the days of Owsley's blotter and windowpane LSD-25 in order to find out what you are missing, but merely point out the potential roadblock to this. And it does not mean one can't appreciate their music (or not, as the case may be) without chemical aids. One does not need to be a mathematician to enjoy the music of J.S. Bach, yet such a knowledge will give one a more complete understanding. That's all I'm saying here.

What do deadheads say when they sober up?

What the Hell is this awful music??!!!

icehog3 12-07-2011 09:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1494810)
What do deadheads say when they sober up?

What the Hell is this awful music??!!!

I thought that was Parrotheads. ;)

14holestogie 12-07-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1494827)
I thought that was Parrotheads. ;)

We never sober up. ;)

AD720 12-07-2011 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1494248)
Lennon & McCarthy are the song writing pair of all time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1494505)
Paul McCartney wasn't bad either. :)

hmmmmmmmm


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...95-mugshot.jpg


and


http://www.senatormccarthy.com/images/mccarthy2.jpg


:tf:tf

icehog3 12-07-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1494839)
We never sober up. ;)

No wonder he keeps selling records. ;) :lr

gorob23 12-07-2011 02:23 PM

Re: The Beatles: What am I missing?
 
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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1494255)
Me, I've dropped nothing stronger than an Advil for nearly 40 years, yet I still "get it."

Not true! What about that cigar we had at the Deck .... had to be some thing in that :tu

Look it is really easy either you like it or you don't. I for one have found that as I have gotten older my taste have changed so much it amazes me. AND if there is shot singer involved I LIKE IT! ;s

Come on Shakira enough said. So dose want a sing-a-long!;s

Rob;)

floydpink 12-07-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492278)
Elvis, Beatles, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Rush....all of them....meh

Just about listed the soundtrack of my life.

cricky101 12-07-2011 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop (Post 1492278)
Elvis, Beatles, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Rush....all of them....meh

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1492289)
Yeah, a bunch of no names, never heard of 'em. :lr:lr

:r What could they possibly have contributed to popular music ?? :rolleyes:

longknocker 12-07-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1494839)
We never sober up. ;)

:tu Long Live Buffett!:banger:D


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