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emopunker2004 08-13-2012 07:18 PM

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and
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-COOLPIX-.../dp/B005IGVXO8


As long as you don't expect DSLR performance these 3 should suit you. Only one I'd personally testify for is the Canon SX230 HS.

Given your price range none of these will be the best at anything but should be well rounded p&s cameras for everyday pictures.

TJarv 08-13-2012 07:33 PM

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Need to do some research. I'm a dummy when it comes to cameras

emopunker2004 08-13-2012 07:36 PM

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:r
That's y i pre-researched for you

TJarv 08-13-2012 07:48 PM

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I know. I might end up trying to save up money for one like my sister has. She bought a Rebel

emopunker2004 08-13-2012 08:01 PM

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the DSLR?

emopunker2004 08-13-2012 08:02 PM

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Check out both Canon and Nikon. If you don't mind buying used you can save some $
I bought my Nikon D90 body from usedcameras.com
Been running great for a long time now.

emopunker2004 08-13-2012 08:06 PM

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I tell down side to a DSLR is obviously size. By the time you throw in a couple lenses to your kit it can be a bit cumbersome. That's why I bought my Canon SX260 HS the other day. I'll use that when I don't feel like carrying my backpack. Just food for thought.

TJarv 08-13-2012 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1699390)
I tell down side to a DSLR is obviously size. By the time you throw in a couple lenses to your kit it can be a bit cumbersome. That's why I bought my Canon SX260 HS the other day. I'll use that when I don't feel like carrying my backpack. Just food for thought.

Yeah but how much difference is their in picture quality

emopunker2004 08-13-2012 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1699433)
Yeah but how much difference is their in picture quality

If you're just talking 8x10 size there is only a minimal difference. DSLR do better in low light than a p&s. The thing I LOVE about DSLR cameras is that YOU are in control. If you're not going to take the time to learn how ISO, Aperature, and Shutter Speed interact and produce pictures than you're honestly throwing your money away IMO. A DSLR can produce great pictures on auto but they are usually just plain old pictures. When you start putting in the settings you can create art. If you're not going to put forth the effort to get somewhat creative in your exposures then you're better off with a P&S or Interchangeable Lens Compact. If you are thinking about the DSLR route I would recommend picking up the book "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson

emopunker2004 08-15-2012 11:24 PM

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Decide on anything yet?

TJarv 08-16-2012 06:02 AM

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I think I'm going with this one http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-COOLPIX-.../dp/B005IGVXO8

OLS 08-16-2012 06:17 AM

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I am glad you avoided the Canon....I bought two used cams off of B&H 16 months ago.
One was the vaunted and much loved S5 IS at a mere 8MP....Or what I like to call the
last good camera made before it all got MegaPixel crazy. If you read my blog you'd know
that I fell in the river with it up to my neck, dried it out for two days and it works again.

My other camera was the SX1 IS, at that time the supposed summit of P&S long lens
cameras from Canon. And almost as soon as it was out they started disowning it.
THOUSANDS of buyers were getting a debilitating Lens Error issue with it, I had for the
most part avoided it. I do not use mine at the beach or in dusty conditions. But you
could also get the error simply from not USING the camera often enough, [SOMEHOW].
Well after dunking my S5, I thought, 'no biggie, I have my 'good camera". Not so fast.
Lens error, out of warranty, no workee, lucky only that I got it as a 100% refurb and
only paid half of what it was supposedly worth. No more Canons for me, they basically
deny this issue is the fault of the manufacturer. Make sure to check B&H Photo online
before making the buy. You might find a NICE used one, a 100% refurb or a good
price on a new one.

OLS 08-16-2012 06:44 AM

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Here are a few standouts from the used pages of BHphotovideo.com

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...uper_Zoom.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html

TJarv 08-16-2012 06:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1700846)

Brad would you take one of these over the NIKON I'm looking at

OLS 08-16-2012 07:56 AM

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Sorry about that....just took my own advice and bought the Fujifilm
S200EXR they had used....$189, couldn't complain. THEY DO have the
highly capable and perhaps better standard feature-having SX100FS in
slightly lesser condition for 40 bucks more. It has the articulating LCD
which I have come to nearly depend on. But both are EXCELLENT bridge
cameras.

OLS 08-16-2012 08:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1700854)
Brad would you take one of these over the NIKON I'm looking at

Well they DO HAVE a refurb for only 135 HERE:
and I DO REALLY LOVE that 1080p video, which I just lost with my nearly new boat anchor CANON SX1 IS....

But in this particular case, owing to the fact that I just BOUGHT one of the three cameras I linked
it's hard to say that I would, lol. FOR ME, I like to have a traditional bodied camera. Makes it seem
more intuitive to me. But as I said, they are making cameras now that look like pocket zooms that are
SUPER-capable. SO count another thing that makes me a dinosaur. NOW, would I forego new camera
for a B&H-sold refurb model to save $65 bucks...yes. But not on a CANON. Never again on a Canon.

This item I just bought, effectively snatching it out from under you, has the lens barrel zoom and
focus controls which I sorely miss in modern cameras. That was what sold me. If you also like to
get as close as possible to a 'pro" style camera AROUND your price range, You should look here
and read this

OLS 08-16-2012 08:13 AM

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Any one of the three cameras I linked to were outstanding cameras in their time.
And all are priced in your range. However the camera you have chosen is also priced in your range,
is a solid model, AND has trueHDvideo. Tough to match up with that in every way BUT body style.
Also out of all the other cameras, the Coolpix 8200 buys into that "more megapixels is better" hype
that is killing the industry right now. Give me a nice imaging 8-10 MP camera all day long, if its a CCD
imager.

In my only semi-experienced opinion, I would say that if image quality is of utmost concern to you,
skip that one you were looking at and look at one of the ones I have linked to. You can go to
photography blog and enter the camera name and search for thier review, even skippig to the "Conclusion" section
and cutting to the chase. I find it interesting that they sort of BAG the image quality of the 8200 while STILL
calling it a really good camera. Must be a lot of nice features that make them less picky about IQ.

I have a philosophy about cameras and computers...stay one or even two generations behind
on cameras and save money. The newest is rarely the best, and if it IS the best, waiting can
offer a good savings. I like to troll the used and refurbs at B&H and if they have something
cheap, go back to the reviews and see if it was once a great camera before the herd migrated
away. It's how I ended up with the Canon S5 IS, a SUPER lil camera.

OLS 08-16-2012 08:37 AM

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Sheesh, how can you ever read through all the glut I posted...I still suggset doing it, lol, but I am beginning
to see a crack in the plan here...You seemed to indicate you want a capable camera in the STYLE of a DSLR or
even "like your sister's Rebel". If that is indeed the case, and you want to tweak knobs and hold a camera that
looks and feels capable of getting the close-to-pro images of a DSLR, then I would simply say, clear the decks,
blow off the HD video and go for this camera.

I respect the hell out of Canon, but now they scare me to death. I like all the big names like Olympus and Nikon.
But Fujifilm quietly makes a really nice camera and for the price I think it is tough to beat the style, features
and image quality of that S100 FS. Or even that P7000. I think that the one you are looking at is woefully
short in user controls and image quality. CMOS is great for video and for giant Megapixel counts, but not a good
way to get solid image performance under an array of lighting conditions.

Keep in mind the model I linked to IS A USED camera, and while 8+ is fairly high on the B&H condition scale for
used gear, it might be a bit nicked, usually simply scratches in the LCD coating. It's only a factor when it is OFF,
I personally find...purely cosmetic. I have three used B&H cameras and they are all great, except for the devil
Canon which I intend to toss into a dumpster. It's Canon's fault, not B&H.

OLS 08-16-2012 09:19 AM

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Jarvis, I PMed you a link....read the reviews on that camera and tell me if you think it is worth your money.

LostAbbott 08-16-2012 10:17 AM

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Wow, just dropped in to see what was going on in here and it is like a huge brain dump going on... all I would suggest when buying a camera is go to you nearest quality camera story try them all out and buy from them. They typically carry used as well and will offer a great return and service policy to compete with online.
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OLS 08-16-2012 10:44 AM

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What TJarv failed to state at the outset was that he preferred to use Am@zon so that he could use
his large collection of gift cards. Shot my whole rap out of the water. Yours too, it would seem, Mychal.

TJarv 08-16-2012 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1700994)
What TJarv failed to state at the outset was that he preferred to use Am@zon so that he could use
his large collection of gift cards. Shot my whole rap out of the water. Yours too, it would seem, Mychal.

But I do appreciate all the help Justin Brad and Mychal

OLS 08-16-2012 11:47 AM

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Yeah, I realize that sounded harsh, not meant that way. I just have no advice for the typical Am@zon
purchase other than plain old research. At Am@zon I can't find a super-deal on a camera that has fallen
out of style, or something that is a trade-in, etc. It is going to come down to two things, I think. Do you
want to shoot top quality video TOO or are you looking for a dedicated, excellent still camera. That seems
to be a real linchpin. A lot of companies stumble when trying to keep up with the Joneses, forcing a HD video
camera onto a still camera and therein crippling low light capabilities due to chip capabilities. You will likely not
find a HD video capable still camera that produces top notch pics in a variety of light levels. And certainly not
for 200 bucks. The other thing is the importance of image quality as a primary factor. You can get a dozen good
cheap superzoom cameras if all you want is zoom and versatility regardless of pixel-peeping specs. You can buy
JUST for what kind of batteries power it, I used to choose only cameras that used AA batteries. I also choose
only cameras that save data on SD cards.

LostAbbott 08-16-2012 12:41 PM

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I know he wanted to go to Amazon to buy his camera, I would strongly suggest against it. It seems Tony that you do not know what your really want in a camera and heading down to your "local" (not best buy, not even ritz) but a locally owned high end professional camera store and talk to the guys there and play with what they have. Maybe even rent a few of the lower end cameras they offer. (mostly only rent high end pro level cameras) That will give you a great idea of what you are looking for and most places will give you the rental cost towards your purchase.

emopunker2004 08-16-2012 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostAbbott (Post 1701050)
I know he wanted to go to Amazon to buy his camera, I would strongly suggest against it. It seems Tony that you do not know what your really want in a camera and heading down to your "local" (not best buy, not even ritz) but a locally owned high end professional camera store and talk to the guys there and play with what they have. Maybe even rent a few of the lower end cameras they offer. (mostly only rent high end pro level cameras) That will give you a great idea of what you are looking for and most places will give you the rental cost towards your purchase.

I've never seen any place rent out P&S cameras.

ashtonlady 08-16-2012 06:21 PM

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This one does. http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/point_and_shoot I hope this helps.

emopunker2004 08-16-2012 09:45 PM

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He picked up the S8200.

TJarv 08-17-2012 06:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1701287)
He picked up the S8200.

After my gift cards and paying for 2 day shipping, its gonna cost me a whopping $25

emopunker2004 08-19-2012 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJarv (Post 1701331)
After my gift cards and paying for 2 day shipping, its gonna cost me a whopping $25

:r :tu

TJarv 08-20-2012 04:55 PM

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Camera came in just now
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r552/TJarv/003.jpg

OLS 08-21-2012 07:44 AM

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I ended up buying this camera after sending TJarv the link to it. It was a one of a kind
item at B&H, and now it is a none of a kind.....$180 and its the cleanest used camera
I ever saw. Not a blemish on the screen or the lens.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...PixS200EXR.jpg

I like the combination of the manual zoom and the choice of either manual focus or autofocus.
In practice its a lot more work than I am used to, so spoiled by a superzoom lately, but when I actually
take it out for a walk or on a trip, I have no problem believing that I will dig it. All my 58mm filters
are useless, haha. Its as close to a DSLR as I think you can get in a bridge camera. The low light
performance is about perfect in relation to what I am used to. All the controls you need on the camera
are on it with only the obscurities hidden in menus.

Mr.Maduro 08-21-2012 08:36 AM

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A few recent shots....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...59A8E69133.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...59A0FBFADC.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...59B164364F.jpg

OLS 08-21-2012 11:29 AM

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I can't take a pic yet, but maybe there is someone who can answer this question without a pic.
I have a tulip type lens hood that is marked Fujifilm...it looks like anormal tupil hood, but one side of the hood
has a slide-out section to actually open a square hole in the tulip petal. Not sure why you would want this, since
blocking the sun is the goal.... anyone know why this item would have such a feature?

jkim05 08-21-2012 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1703136)
I can't take a pic yet, but maybe there is someone who can answer this question without a pic.
I have a tulip type lens hood that is marked Fujifilm...it looks like anormal tupil hood, but one side of the hood
has a slide-out section to actually open a square hole in the tulip petal. Not sure why you would want this, since
blocking the sun is the goal.... anyone know why this item would have such a feature?

It gives you access so you can rotate a circular polarizing filter.

OLS 08-21-2012 02:29 PM

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I never would have figured that one out.....luckily I HAVE a CPF, so I will test that, lol.
Thanks JK

OLS 08-24-2012 06:43 AM

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http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...lumcave269.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...e319copyxx.jpg

hammondc 08-28-2012 08:56 PM

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Any suggestions for a tripod in the $75 range? Do not need something to stand up to hurricane force winds, but do not want something that will fall apart either.

emopunker2004 08-28-2012 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1707308)
Any suggestions for a tripod in the $75 range? Do not need something to stand up to hurricane force winds, but do not want something that will fall apart either.

What will you be putting on the tripod? What kind of camera. I'm looking at the Induro AKB1 or AKB0 and those run $160 and $140 respectively. I wouldn't trust my DSLR on a tripod much cheaper than that. You may be better off getting a used tripod so you'd get more bang for your buck.

emopunker2004 08-28-2012 09:03 PM

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Looking at renting at least these two lenses for my trip to New England in October.
https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/nik...o-dx-for-nikon
https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/nik...c-for-nikon-dx

LostAbbott 08-28-2012 09:26 PM

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Is anyone every looking for critique when posting their shots? Or just sharing? if you are looking for critique maybe post it so at least I will know if you want any advice or not...

MarkinAZ 08-28-2012 09:33 PM

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Two beautiful shots you took there Brad:tu (Post #1836)...

hammondc 08-28-2012 11:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1707316)
what will you be putting on the tripod? What kind of camera. I'm looking at the induro akb1 or akb0 and those run $160 and $140 respectively. I wouldn't trust my dslr on a tripod much cheaper than that. You may be better off getting a used tripod so you'd get more bang for your buck.

Nikon D5000

hammondc 08-30-2012 01:38 PM

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ended up with this one. I know a few people with them and no one has anything but good things to say. I guess if I was using a huge telephoto lens I would opt for something else.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RBX0GO?tag=photoblog0c7-20

ashtonlady 08-30-2012 07:33 PM

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Looks good.

emopunker2004 08-30-2012 08:59 PM

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never heard of it but it got good reviews.

emopunker2004 08-30-2012 09:20 PM

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OK I need a laptop/desktop in the sub $600 range that is capable of running PS6 without bogging down. My little netbook just isn't cutting it lol.

LostAbbott 08-30-2012 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1708530)
OK I need a laptop/desktop in the sub $600 range that is capable of running PS6 without bogging down. My little netbook just isn't cutting it lol.

Desktop maybe, Laptop, not likely. I however run a lot of images through my system and expect really fast performance... Start with dell for something around $600

emopunker2004 09-01-2012 07:50 PM

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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8303/7...0641f6cb_z.jpg
Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/7...6eedc74b_z.jpg
Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

OLS 10-05-2012 11:15 AM

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Went down to New Orleans to see my Mother and Sister and her son for a long weekend
while they rented a condo for a week. I get down there all the time but rarely get a
chance to hang around with a camera. And this year conspired against me too.
Rained on and off all day, took along a ziplock bag that I put the camera in when I couldn't
be under cover....wasn't enough, the camera absolutely revolted. Had to take it in to have
it repaired after a long dry-out failed to kick her back in. I like this camera, it has skills with
dynamic range that are elbowing some DSLRs for attention. I like the manual zoom lens barrel, too.

The weekend was great, nothing I haven't seen a thousand times, but I still just love that city.
There is a lot of magic left in her yet.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a.../DSCF5389X.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a.../DSCF5406X.jpg

ashtonlady 10-06-2012 10:36 AM

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OLS, great pictures. Crop out the truck and pole on the 2nd one. I love the color in it. These pictures make me want to go back with my camera.


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