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icehog3 05-23-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jonharky (Post 395416)
I am not worried. I think we broke khabibulin though there is no coming back from what happen the second period

I think tomorrow might be a rude awakening for Wings fans.

So easy for me to talk tough when I will be offline until Monday. ;r

jonharky 05-23-2009 08:59 PM

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I don't know we will see when tomorrow comes around. I think we will see a tougher detroit team

GHC_Hambone 05-23-2009 09:05 PM

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Was Khabibulin injured or did they just replace him? I never heard either way.

357 05-23-2009 10:50 PM

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No mention of the Kronwall hit on Havlat?

Sorry but that was a 100% legal hit.

icehog3 05-24-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GHC_Hambone (Post 395468)
Was Khabibulin injured or did they just replace him? I never heard either way.

Lower body injury, speculated to be Khabby's old groin again. You can see him having difficulty getting up after the 2nd Detroit goal.

Jon, Detroit is always tough....I just hope the Hawks keep playing them close.

100% legal? I dunno, he led with his forearm. Definitely not warranting a 5 minute major nor a game ejection, but certainly worthy of 2 for roughing. Be different if he caught him with the shoulder first, but from my perspective it was the forearm.

BarneyBandMan 05-24-2009 09:22 AM

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Joe's been tied up for the weekend, so I'll post the Canes' love.

Ouch, dang, wtf?

Joe and I will be there on Tuesday night to get our guys going. I could use a quote or two about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor (Bluto), I'm going to pick a fight (Mel Wallace) etc. as a motivating moment, but the fact is that the Pens have taken it to the Canes in ridiculous ways. Our defensemen have NOTHING for Malkin and the boys, and Cam Ward only has one head on which to stand.

Though the fat lady will be in the house on Tuesday, I'm remembering a Red Sox run a few years back that started with a 3-0 deficit.

It can be done--Go Canes!

Partagaspete 05-25-2009 03:07 AM

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I didn't get to watch the first game of the Pens/Canes series but it seems that Cole is putting on quite a few knee-on-knee hits. I saw about five in the last two games. Three I thought were flagrant. That elbow to Staal's head in front of the net in the third with no call, WTF? I like letting them play with hard hitting action but these a dangerous/career ending plays need to be called.

I think the fat lady is getting warming up.

Oh! and Barnaby, I do like Cam but I think he needs to work on his stick side this off season. definitely agree on the lack of support by his "D"

T

BarneyBandMan 05-25-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete (Post 396428)
I didn't get to watch the first game of the Pens/Canes series but it seems that Cole is putting on quite a few knee-on-knee hits. I saw about five in the last two games. Three I thought were flagrant. That elbow to Staal's head in front of the net in the third with no call, WTF? I like letting them play with hard hitting action but these a dangerous/career ending plays need to be called.

I think the fat lady is getting warming up.

Oh! and Barnaby, I do like Cam but I think he needs to work on his stick side this off season. definitely agree on the lack of support by his "D"

T

I've got nothing.

Go Canes!

jamesb3 05-25-2009 12:42 PM

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Back from up north with the Wings up 3-1 in the series. So far I'm looking good on my prediction of a 5 game series. I don't believe that the Hawks will just roll over in game 5. Just think the Wings are to much. Should be a better game than game 4 thou.

kelmac07 05-25-2009 12:46 PM

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Is it gonna be another repeat from last year Stanley Cup? Or has Pittsburgh gotten over the hump?

SmokeyJoe 05-25-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete (Post 396428)
I didn't get to watch the first game of the Pens/Canes series but it seems that Cole is putting on quite a few knee-on-knee hits. I saw about five in the last two games. Three I thought were flagrant. That elbow to Staal's head in front of the net in the third with no call, WTF? I like letting them play with hard hitting action but these a dangerous/career ending plays need to be called.

I think the fat lady is getting warming up.

Oh! and Barnaby, I do like Cam but I think he needs to work on his stick side this off season. definitely agree on the lack of support by his "D"

T

Wasn't able to see the game, so I can't comment on any elbow hit... all I can say is, Cole doesn't have the reputation for that, and he has been in the league a while. Also, putting a career-ender on the brother of a close friend and teammate???

No way to spin the butt-kickin' the Penguins have put on the Carolina boys. We will see what the the Hurricanes are made of Tuesday night.

alley00p 05-25-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 396742)
Is it gonna be another repeat from last year Stanley Cup? Or has Pittsburgh gotten over the hump?

If it ends up a repeat of last year, it's gonna be a much tougher Penguins out there! They have a lot more playoff experience than they had in last year's finals, and there are some key Wings players who may or may not be able to play in the finals!

I still have a lot of faith in my Red Wings, but it's definately gonna be a tougher series.

And, IF (and that's a big IF) the Hawks could pull some magic out of their hats, they will never get by Pittsburgh!

Go Red Wings!!!

:wo

icehog3 05-25-2009 02:16 PM

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Hawks youth showed through yesterday, and Huet is no Khabibulin. Congrats to the Wings on a dominating performance. That 5 game prediction looks pretty good right now, James, though I know the Hawks will put forth a better effort....and maybe Bulin will be able to go.

357 05-25-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 396811)
Hawks youth showed through yesterday, and Huet is no Khabibulin. Congrats to the Wings on a dominating performance. That 5 game prediction looks pretty good right now, James, though I know the Hawks will put forth a better effort....and maybe Bulin will be able to go.

I hear Datsyuk will be back for Game 5. I hope Lidstrom will be too. Those are two HUGE losses and yet dominance in Game 4. Not to mention on CBC they were speculating that Osgood might have aggrevated a previous injury. I hope the Wings close it out at home in Game 5. Then they can move onto the Pens.

357 05-25-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 396742)
Is it gonna be another repeat from last year Stanley Cup? Or has Pittsburgh gotten over the hump?

I'm sure the Pens will put up more of a fight than last year, but the style of play and overall talent the Wings will throw at them seems to be a tough matchup for the Pens. I think we'll find out soon enough.

Mike

icehog3 05-25-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 397277)
I hope the Wings close it out at home in Game 5.

Please excuse me if I root for them to fly back to Chicago this weekend. ;)

GHC_Hambone 05-26-2009 12:11 AM

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I have to say I'm worried about the Hawks goaltending next year. Huet never really showed much this year, and Game 4 was quite embarrassing. With Khabibulin's contract up, I'm doubtful we will keep him around. Dale Talon dug himself into a mess here.

Partagaspete 05-26-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 396747)
Wasn't able to see the game, so I can't comment on any elbow hit... all I can say is, Cole doesn't have the reputation for that, and he has been in the league a while. Also, putting a career-ender on the brother of a close friend and teammate???

No way to spin the butt-kickin' the Penguins have put on the Carolina boys. We will see what the the Hurricanes are made of Tuesday night.

The elbow was someones else I think and it was pretty vicious, IMHO. I am not a guy who sits here and says oh that was a penalty and I am definitely not a homer (as I am an Isles fan anyway). That being said I do appreciate you info on Cole since I really do not know his history but I do truly feel he has thrown quite a few knee on knee hits in this particular series.

Thanks again.

T

gpugliese 05-26-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete (Post 397787)
The elbow was someones else I think and it was pretty vicious, IMHO. I am not a guy who sits here and says oh that was a penalty and I am definitely not a homer (as I am an Isles fan anyway). That being said I do appreciate you info on Cole since I really do not know his history but I do truly feel he has thrown quite a few knee on knee hits in this particular series.

I don't watch the Hurricanes often (I'm a Rangers fan), but as of late whenever I notice Cole, especially in these playoffs, he's playing a bit dirty. I know he doesn't have the reputation of a Tucker, Ruutu or an Avery (which is more trash talking than actual dirty hits/injuries), but he's quickly gotten himself on my "hate" list...

That is, "dirty" players who you hate when they're on another team but love if they are on your own team, ie: Theo Fleury, aforementioned Sean Avery, Darius Kasparaitis (when he didn't suck), Matt Barnaby, Chris Pronger, etc.

icehog3 05-26-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GHC_Hambone (Post 397393)
I have to say I'm worried about the Hawks goaltending next year. Huet never really showed much this year, and Game 4 was quite embarrassing. With Khabibulin's contract up, I'm doubtful we will keep him around. Dale Talon dug himself into a mess here.

You have every reason to worry. I don't think Huet is "the" goalie, and they couldn't reasonably resign Khabibulin unless they moved Huet's contract before July 1sy (Free Agency)...and with the ridiculous contract Tallon signed Huet to, that ain't gonna happen.

So....we can go with Huet and one of the Rockford boys (Crawford, Nietti) next seaon. Or trade Huet and go completely "youthful" with Crawford AND Nietti.....or we can try to acquire another goalie in free agency and hope we can move Huet.

Anyway you look at it, it doesn't look great. :2

Mikey202 05-26-2009 02:19 PM

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GO PENS!!!!:wo

icehog3 05-26-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 398092)
GO PENS!!!!:wo

And take the Pirates with you! :mad:

DPD6030 05-26-2009 05:21 PM

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Go Wings! :wo

ahc4353 05-26-2009 08:06 PM

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Congrats Kevin! :dance:

Sorry Joe. :sad

Wondering Nomad 05-26-2009 08:38 PM

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Here's to the Wings/ Blackhawks series going to seven hard fought and tiring games.

GO PENS!

MedicCook 05-26-2009 08:39 PM

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Wings/Hawks is only one more game.

Sorry Tom.

jonharky 05-26-2009 09:18 PM

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Yep tomorrow night is going to be the last game of the series GO WINGS!!

Waynegro1 05-26-2009 10:44 PM

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The Penguins look so comfortable no matter what's thrown at them. I think they have the perfect mix of young and old players. No matter who wins in the West, they'll have their hands full with the Pens'.

That being said, Go Hawks!!

BarneyBandMan 05-27-2009 07:28 AM

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Late night at the RBC. Joe and I met for a lucky cigar in the parking lot before the game. And it was all kinda downhill from there. Canes started strong but just could not keep it up.

Props to the Pens. They look REALLY good right now....:tu

MedicCook 05-27-2009 12:57 PM

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Some players out of tonights game.
Nicklas Lidstrom & Pavel Datsyuk for the Wings.
Nikolai Khabibulin & Martin Havlat for the Hawks.

ahc4353 05-27-2009 01:06 PM

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Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:

MedicCook 05-27-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 399866)
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:
Lets go Red Wings! clap clap clapclapclap :dance:

:tu

LookAtBigErn82 05-27-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 399856)
Some players out of tonights game.

Nikolai Khabibulin & Martin Havlat for the Hawks.

D'oh! Lets go Huet!

GHC_Hambone 05-27-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LookAtBigErn82 (Post 399925)
D'oh! Lets go Huet!

And go Crawford once he replaces him!

icehog3 05-27-2009 01:45 PM

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Havlat is definitely out?

Huet sucks.

MedicCook 05-27-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 399939)
Havlat is definitely out?

Huet sucks.

That is what ESPN.com is reporting.

icehog3 05-27-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 399944)
That is what ESPN.com is reporting.

That Huet sucks?



:r :r :r

LookAtBigErn82 05-27-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 399939)
Havlat is definitely out?

Huet sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 399944)
That is what ESPN.com is reporting.

Well its official, if ESPN and icehog both say Huet sucks, he must suck.:D

icehog3 05-27-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LookAtBigErn82 (Post 399957)
Well its official, if ESPN and icehog both say Huet sucks, he must suck.:D

Oh yeah....he sucks.

Maybe he can change my mind tonight...but I ain't holding my breath.

SmokeyJoe 05-27-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BarneyBandMan (Post 399328)
Late night at the RBC. Joe and I met for a lucky cigar in the parking lot before the game. And it was all kinda downhill from there. Canes started strong but just could not keep it up.

Props to the Pens. They look REALLY good right now....:tu

Congratulations to the Penguins. They look like a machine right now.

'Canes had a good season... can't complain much. All but four teams were all sitting home watching, so that is something to be proud of, I suppose. :D

Hope the Hawks can muster some offense against the Wings. :tu

jamesb3 05-27-2009 03:10 PM

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Wings/Hawks game 5 tonight. Well both teams are without key players. This is where the Wings depth will come in handy.

Hopefully we can polish off the Hawks tonight for some much needed rest to get healthy. Wish we knew the severity if Lindstrom's injury. But just the fact that he is not playing says a lot.

icehog3 05-27-2009 04:38 PM

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Congrats on a great 'Canes season, Joe. They seemed to be able to find a way all season, I just think Malkin and Crosby are leading a juggernaut right now.

Lidstrom not playing means he is hurt, 'cause Nik just doesn't miss games.

Missing Havlat hurts the Hawks chances, but Khabibulin is the key. I think the Hawks will put forth a much better effort than they did Sunday, but if Huet lets in a couple soft goals, that might deflate the kids faster than a 80 year old after the Viagra wears off. I would love to see the Hawks win one more for pride, but I know the Wings are deeper, smarter, just more experienced. Regardless, I am really proud of what the Hawks have accomplished this year, and think they will be even better next year if they get a goalie who can compete after Nikolai leaves.

That being said:

Go Hawks!

jonharky 05-27-2009 05:37 PM

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I think that the kids are already deflated after the thumping they took sunday...Go Wings!!

jamesb3 05-27-2009 06:18 PM

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0-0 after 1 period.

No Ericsson really hurts, already without Lidstrom on Defense. Gonna be a lot of minutes for Rafalski, Staurt and Kronwall! Oh well no one is gonna feel sorry for us.

Let's Go Red Wings!!

chippewastud79 05-27-2009 06:24 PM

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The Hawks goalie is going to have a hell of a night if he ends up facing 60 shots. A lot of time spent on their end thus far. :hm

MedicCook 05-27-2009 07:11 PM

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Still no score after 2 periods.

jonharky 05-27-2009 07:16 PM

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Great game so far really exciting

jonharky 05-27-2009 07:33 PM

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1-0 wings!!

MedicCook 05-27-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jonharky (Post 400410)
1-0 wings!!

:tu

MedicCook 05-27-2009 07:46 PM

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Hawks tie it at 1.


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