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Hey Jesse! That seems like forever ago to me. It will be a while before I have people over, we're in the middle of remodeling our kitchen, but there is a shoot-n-smoke in the works with some of the ARFCOM'ers from your part of the state. Looks like the 7th or 8th of Aug.

The real question: Does your girl shoot? ;)

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Ahhhhh, a shoot n smoke....why do I live so far away!!!!

I could bring toys for sure!!

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Hey everyone, anyone have any experience with the Ruger SR9c? Thinking about picking it up as another concealed carry for when I'm on the motorcycle. I'm fairly unhappy with what I'm using now.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thx

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Well, what are you using now? Most weapons can be concealed (yes even the full sized variety). Usually all it takes is a good holster. Crossbreed makes one helluva holster for most weapons carried. Also what caliber are you looking for? I would use no less than 9mm.

-Z

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Avoid anything with the name Ruger on it... period.

Not based on quality, but principle.

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Glock 23 :tu

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Glock 21. :banger
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7602/golck21cl3.jpg

Seriously though, Kahr PM9
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3172/kahrqo6.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6646/img1657ui2.jpg

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Or a 27. :tu

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Only if you like to blow up your hands :D


Unsupported chamber + .40 = F that.

Glock 19 is where it's at... :D

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The girl smokes and has been itching to go shooting but due to lack of funding I haven't been able to afford .40 ammo. I was thinking of picking up a few cases of 22LR rounds and taking out my Sig Mosquito to teach her the basics of it all but then I will have to find time when I am not working 8 days a week.

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Come on Jordan, you know that only happens when you use reloads. Buy a Glock 23 and then buy the aftermarket barrel and magazines in 9mm and then you have 2 guns in one :tu

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(or cheap ammo*) :D


If you're gonna go the unsupported route, then go Glock 29. Skip all the pansy stuff and go for gold. 10 rounds of 10mm = pure awesome.

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I have a Glock 20 :tu

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Or fine.. if you have mutant hands, you can do that too :r

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Yeah, I have huge hands :r

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Let's talk handguns suitable for backpacking. I was thinking a s&w j frame .357 but the ultra snub nose concerns me. I'd like at least 2.5".

reccomendations?

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Taurus Judge.

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No way! Read this:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

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So what's your point?

Load first two chambers with shot shells for snakes, next three with .45LC for everything else.

I guess my mistake in mentioning the Judge was thinking that people would have the common sense to realize that the weapon can use two different cartridges (at the same time even!) and that the .410 shot is less than ideal for shooting a large mass.

When loaded intelligently and logically, it's great weapon.

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+1 I'm down with the Judge. :tu

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Definitely a revolver because it will withstand the possible exposure to wet and dirt better than an auto. Super light weight and snub nose isn't really necessary because you don't need deep concealement. In fact depending on the places you go you may be able to wear it across the chest like some hunters do with their backup pistol. If you want this for defense against animals as well as people you should carry a revolver capable of at least .38/.357. You can go bigger but if you are not a gun enthusiast a higher caliber may not work as well for you all things considered.
If it was me I think I would look at a S&W 686 or 686+ in 4" or 6" configuration. Long barrel length is a good thing because it delivers the most possible power as well as longer sight radius for better accuracy in aiming situations. The .38/357 cal with the medium steel frame means a good power/kick ratio.The Ruger GP100 is a good choice too. That puts you over 2 lbs but with a good holster and belt that's not so bad. Get a holster made for the woods - maybe with a flap. It will keep the grit out.

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Very interesting.

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Few criteria. No taurus. No ruger. Must be less than 20 ounces. 357 minimum. Not ultra snubnose. Black or blue preferred. It will be mostly concealed.

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Might be tough to get all of those in one.

If you're willing to give a few ounces on the weight though...

BTW, the S&W J-frames you mentioned earlier are very good weapons.

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I've carried full-size concealed before, its not that I dislike it, I'm just going for something smaller on while on the motorcycle. I have plenty of holsters but I actually just bought a Lil Joes Motorcycle Vest with the built in gun pocket inside the vest. It holds my full size weapons fine but again I'm looking for something a bit smaller.

I've carried a S&W Model 60-15 .357 Mag, I've carried the Glock 26 and a Ruger P90. Not horribly excited w/ the S&W, I used Glock for a decent amount of time at work so I try to stay away from them when I'm able and the full size Ruger was just too big.



What's the thoughts behind that Jordan?

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Ruger is the anti gun , gun company.

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My only logic is if we're talking 26 to 30 ounces, I'd just rather go with a G29 which preserves my muscle memory comparable to a G19. Which a Glock isn't going have an issue with dirt, dust, grime or water. That and 10mm is no slouch.

Kind of interesting though that the J frames fill a niche market with no other competition.


The Taurus Judge sounds interesting, but I refuse to support that company with my dollars.

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No doubt or debate, the Glock is a great weapon, I don't need to be convinced of that. For some carry situations, I think a revolver, even though you give up a few rounds and maybe some weight, might be a better choice. Not even the Glock is infallible. Yes, a revolver a very old concept in the design. But, it frickin' works. It's simple, reliable and rugged. Fast, no. Sometimes though, simple and reliable trump magazine capacities and speed fire.

Off the top of my head, I think a S&W 640 Centennial .357 magnum weighs 32oz.

I could get under the 30oz limit by going to a 642 airweight, but, IIRC, .38+P is as much as it will handle per the manufacturer.

While one of them exceeds your weight restrictions, the other falls slightly short of your power demands, I would not have a problem with either of those for myself. I would not have a problem with their senior counterpart bodyguard models either, but I can't personally see where I would need single-action capability for this situation.


There are a few other .45/.410 revolvers on the market, The Judge just happens to be the most readily available. I haven't spent much time looking into them since they're illegal in the state I live in, maybe a local gunstore can help you with some of the other manufacturers.

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I won't argue the revolver is the premier choice for this application (which is why I'm hunting for one), but all I was getting at is if weight was a wash between an auto and a revolver, I'll go with where my training lies.



I found on the S&W site, the M&P 360 model revolver.

3" barrel, .357, black and ~15 oz.

Only issue is it has a hammer, which wasn't a deal breaker, but weird that they don't offer a 3" hammerless model in black.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...3077_01_lg.jpg

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My everyday carry is the S&W Airweight 642 revolver with Crimson trace.

It fits perfectly in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster in the cargo shorts I normally wear and you don't even notice it's there.

I keep Speer Gold dots short barrel rounds in it and feel very confident in its stopping power although I pray I never truly find out.

Sure a Glock carries more rounds but for my skinny frame it's too big to propery conceal and I live by the theory if I need more than 5 shots, I'm probably not making it home for dinner.

Had a Taurus 357 and found it painful to pracice with and tried a Kel Tec P11, which in my opinion is the biggest piece of junk gun in the world.

The fact that Taurus is made in Brazil should have made me run but my first divorce after 2 years to a Brazilian woman didn't stop me from marrying another one 7 years later. I'm a slow learner.

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It would appear that we are not that far apart in our thinking, abeit a few differences. Now, after looking at the S&W page, it seems my memory of the weights of these weapons is not not accurate. Or I'm thinking of loaded weights, I don't know, but whatever it is, what I had in my head for weights was greater than what they are when unloaded.

Is sending the weapon out to a gunsmith to have the hammer bobbed an option for you?

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Different application. Backpacking carry gun. .357 minimum.

My carry gun is a G19.

We're talking lightweight because ounces matter on the trail. Chest holster, slightly exposed and revolver because mags weigh a lot.

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I have a guy local who could do it.

Though if he can't do it, I'm wondering if just buying an aftermarket bobbed hammer would be more ideal ($$$).


EDIT:: just found a recommended website.

http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

anyone heard of em?

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Oh you're talking about backpacking? I'd probably use one of these if I was into backpacking.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...awkAlaskan.jpg

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To my knowledge, I've never fired a S&W with an aftermarket hammer, so I simply don't know.

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Must not let the Firearm thread die!!

Suppressed 6.5x47L

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0...D720/ry%3D480/

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Are you adopting by chance?

:r

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Jordan,
Your always welcome to come over and play, my safes are open to you :)

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I hope this doesn't sound like I'm being a wise azz. But bobbing a revolver hammer is a pretty simple job. A nice file and some emery cloth and the required elbow grease.
One thing you can do is order a spare stock hammer to bob, install and use it. If its not what you want put the original back in.

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If it was an AR-15 hammer, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but with complete inexperience in this sort(revolvers) of thing and the necessity for it to work 100% of the time if needed. It's worth the 30$ and change for someone to do it for me.

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http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...e/IMG_0601.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...e/IMG_0604.jpg

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Now were talking Shawn, love me some Black guns :D

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Ed Brown Cobra Carry

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0...D720/ry%3D480/

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I got a new Spike lower that I haven't decided what the build is going to be.

Hmmmm......:D

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6.5 Grendel ????? smokin round, but components are expensive

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I'd only do this if I reload it. Semi-Auto tear brass up though.

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Yeah but even reloading it get expensive for this round and Alexander Arms hasn't helped the matter. Lapua Brass is all thats avail although its coming down in price, still near 85-90 bucks per 100. If you want a Competition Die set w/ bushings your also looking above 200 bucks...but the round has its merits.

Can't wait to see what you build brother

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My AR, new to me P245 and the target from shooting my P245:D

-Z

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On the left my fixed 10rd mag LMT 308MWS. I already started parting it out and hope to get a UBR, Troy sights and Smith Vortex put it on it.

On the right is my fixed 10 rd mag 9mm Ar


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...m/IMG_0496.jpg

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I knew you were holdin out on us Greg!!! Nice bud