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AdamJoshua 01-25-2015 05:55 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
I believe that Dougy, much like the assistant to the assistant Videographer, will be getting let go soon. :r

shilala 01-26-2015 06:56 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dijit (Post 2014094)
The ratio equations I found show .10% +/- for every 10% in degrees C.
There's a rubber bladder in the balls. A 50* drop in temperature would effect about a 10psi drop in pressure. Much the same as your car tires.
I have no idea what the stated pressures were, but I'm thinking it was relatively mild for New England that day? What was it, about 30-40 degrees?
It's real easy to figure out if it was intentional by knowing just a few more variables.
I'm just too lazy and disinterested to look. :D

pnoon 01-26-2015 08:43 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2014320)
I believe that Dougy, much like the assistant to the assistant Videographer, will be getting let go soon. :r
I remember when Saturday Night Live was funny.:sad

Subvet642 01-26-2015 08:44 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2014387)
There's a rubber bladder in the balls. A 50* drop in temperature would effect about a 10psi drop in pressure. Much the same as your car tires.
I have no idea what the stated pressures were, but I'm thinking it was relatively mild for New England that day? What was it, about 30-40 degrees?
It's real easy to figure out if it was intentional by knowing just a few more variables.
I'm just too lazy and disinterested to look. :D
I believe it was 51ºF at game time.

The Poet 01-26-2015 03:34 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 2014404)
I remember when Saturday Night Live was funny.:sad
Who said it was supposed to be funny? :r

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...usaolp00000592


;)

pnoon 01-26-2015 06:15 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 2014479)
Who said it was supposed to be funny? :r

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...usaolp00000592


;)
Silly assumption on my part that SNL is intended to be funny.
:rolleyes:

AdamJoshua 01-26-2015 06:46 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
I saw a report that they have a "person of interest", looks like someone is taking the fall, I wonder how but that pays. :r

The Poet 01-26-2015 06:46 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
The humor may fall flat, but the prescience was spot on . . . which is the relevant point.

pnoon 01-26-2015 07:15 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 2014514)
The humor may fall flat, but the prescience was spot on . . . which is the relevant point.
Opinions vary.

IMO, Saturday Night Live is intended as a television show devoted to comedy. And I didn't find the sketch the least bit funny.
To me, that is the relevant point and the reason for my post - as opposed to bishes

Dave128 01-27-2015 08:22 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2014513)
I saw a report that they have a "person of interest", looks like someone is taking the fall, I wonder how but that pays. :r
I still don't believe Belichick or Brady are innocent. On top of that, Kraft is now demanding an apology from the NFL. I knew that since Kraft and Goodell were so tight, that nothing was going to happen.

yourchoice 01-27-2015 09:03 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave128 (Post 2014585)
I still don't believe Belichick or Brady are innocent. On top of that, Kraft is now demanding an apology from the NFL. I knew that since Kraft and Goodell were so tight, that nothing was going to happen.
With the precedent set on how the NFL handled Payton with the player bounties (team and coach bearing the brunt of the responsibility), I'd be surprised if Belichick and the team didn't shoulder most of the blame and whatever penalties are imposed. They are doing their best to keep Brady out of it though, which I find laughable. :r

8zeros 01-31-2015 10:07 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
I just saw this that explains the deflate-o-math: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...d_physics.html

I forgot to convert gauge pressure to absolute pressure which makes it seem like it takes more of a temp difference to change the pressure.

This is the basic law for the relationship between pressure and temperature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-Lussac%27s_law
In the article he said Charles's Law, which is for volume and pressure.

shilala 01-31-2015 10:27 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Roger, you have to figure elastic kinetic energy in there.
That stuff in American Thinker is right on if the vessel is an immovable object.
I took a wild ass guess at the kinetic part. :D

The math is so ridiculous that it'd be much easier just to blow up a ball and stick it in the fridge and see what happens. :tu

AdamJoshua 01-31-2015 10:47 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Did it have the formula for only affecting one team's balls (giggles) and not the other.

Subvet642 01-31-2015 10:50 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2015350)
Roger, you have to figure elastic kinetic energy in there.
That stuff in American Thinker is right on if the vessel is an immovable object.
I took a wild ass guess at the kinetic part. :D

The math is so ridiculous that it'd be much easier just to blow up a ball and stick it in the fridge and see what happens. :tu
The first thing a Sailor would ask is: Were the gauges calibrated? If they weren't, they cannot know anything. I'm starting to believe that the Colts noticed the effect on their own balls and went fishing.

Adam, I ask only because I don't know: Were the Colts' balls checked on the field, too?

AdamJoshua 01-31-2015 04:11 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Yes the balls from both teams were checked at the half and the Colt's balls were all legal.

The unclear thing is if they refs actually inflated the balls supplied by the Patriots or not, people assume they did but there's no confirmation of it.

8zeros 01-31-2015 06:14 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 2015350)
Roger, you have to figure elastic kinetic energy in there.
That stuff in American Thinker is right on if the vessel is an immovable object.
I took a wild ass guess at the kinetic part. :D

The math is so ridiculous that it'd be much easier just to blow up a ball and stick it in the fridge and see what happens. :tu
Yep, I detect an elbow there.
The Colts would have lost real bad even if they played with the other team's :D balls.

Bruins Fan 02-01-2015 08:10 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
All the haters can suck it..Patriots WIN!!!!

The Poet 02-01-2015 08:25 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 2015624)
All the haters can suck it..Patriots WIN!!!!
Classy and gracious, as expected. :D

I will never understand that last Seattle play. Let Lynch punch it in, fer Krissakes! :r

Congratulations to the Pats and their fans. Now get 'em off my TV so I can watch The Blacklist. ;)

icehog3 02-01-2015 09:39 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Be sure to send Pete Carroll a thank you note, that was a gift. :2

yourchoice 02-01-2015 09:53 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 2015630)
Classy and gracious, as expected. :D
:tpd:

AdamJoshua 02-01-2015 09:56 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2015648)
Be sure to send Pete Carroll a thank you note, that was a gift. :2
Oh I thought he was still on Kraft's payroll. :r

Subvet642 02-01-2015 10:04 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Brady earns his fourth ring and the country asks: Peyton who?

icehog3 02-01-2015 10:25 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2015655)
Oh I thought he was still on Kraft's payroll. :r
Apparently so did he. :D

YankeeMan 02-02-2015 05:31 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
They say that cheaters never prosper, I guess they got that wrong!

Bruins Fan 02-02-2015 05:44 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeeMan (Post 2015679)
They say that cheaters never prosper, I guess they got that wrong!
And the wankeeys still SUX !!

mosesbotbol 02-02-2015 06:20 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Patriots win and kids are stuck at home with the snow...

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-02-2015 09:29 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeeMan (Post 2015679)
They say that cheaters never prosper, I guess they got that wrong!
How many Seahawks players have tested positive for peds in the last 4 odd years? And didn't their head coach have a bcs championship taken away from him? Yeah I'm not a Pats fan but it's hilarious when so many people are calling them cheaters when the Seahawks themselves are composed of cheaters.

YankeeMan 02-02-2015 12:59 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 2015680)
And the wankeeys still SUX !!
Hence the reason they are know as "Massholes"

The Poet 02-02-2015 01:42 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 2015708)
How many Seahawks players have tested positive for peds in the last 4 odd years? And didn't their head coach have a bcs championship taken away from him? Yeah I'm not a Pats fan but it's hilarious when so many people are calling them cheaters when the Seahawks themselves are composed of cheaters.
Point.

Here are two others. First, two wrongs don't make a right. Second, few have the ego and the balls (inflated or deflated) to demand an apology from their commissioner when he announces an investigation into charges, which has the necessary purpose of determining if said charges are specious or valid.

Will the Patriots next demand one for charges leveled against Aaron Hernandez, insisting investigations against him be halted to avoid any embarrassment to their organization? Just askin'.

That said, New England was clearly one of the best teams in the NFL this season, and it is foolish to begrudge them their new ring.

icehog3 02-02-2015 02:19 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 2015745)
That said, New England was clearly one of the best teams in the NFL this season, and it is foolish to begrudge them their new ring.
Pete Carroll sure didn't. :noon

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-02-2015 02:49 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 2015745)
Point.

Here are two others. First, two wrongs don't make a right. Second, few have the ego and the balls (inflated or deflated) to demand an apology from their commissioner when he announces an investigation into charges, which has the necessary purpose of determining if said charges are specious or valid.

Will the Patriots next demand one for charges leveled against Aaron Hernandez, insisting investigations against him be halted to avoid any embarrassment to their organization? Just askin'.

That said, New England was clearly one of the best teams in the NFL this season, and it is foolish to begrudge them their new ring.
Two wrongs definitely don't make a right. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in calling the Pats cheaters.

nutcracker 02-02-2015 03:47 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3D2gsPUR0

AdamJoshua 02-02-2015 07:28 PM
Re: New England Patriots
 
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...ceca251321.jpg

Genetic Defect 02-03-2015 12:33 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
:po
#cheaters

mosesbotbol 02-03-2015 05:27 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 2015758)
Two wrongs definitely don't make a right. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in calling the Pats cheaters.
The media was more at fault than the NFL. Media wanted to make a story out something that really wasn't.

Bruins Fan 02-03-2015 05:57 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
The duck boat parade has been pushed to Wednesday, adjust your travel plans accordingly.:D
Just a heads up for all those that have never experienced one in your town.:r

YankeeMan 02-03-2015 08:58 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
I hate like hell to admit this, but the duck boats are really cool!

SD Beerman 02-03-2015 09:30 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeeMan (Post 2015679)
They say that cheaters never prosper, I guess they got that wrong!
Yankees know all about that......

Steve 02-03-2015 09:48 AM
Re: New England Patriots
 
http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...rol%20001.jpeg


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