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And that was you and me discussing what kind of bumwad I wipe my ass with. :lr

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Well that, and those Giants teams are light years more talented than anything Peyton's ever stepped onto a field with.

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This! The D-line from the Giants has been unbelievable during their last 2 super bowl runs.

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Ward, Farrior and Cooke are gone now. I wouldn't be surprised if Hampton is next. The Steelers are cleaning house, much like they do every couple years.
They've historically erred on the side of caution, getting rid of players a year early rather than a year too late. I'm still disgusted about Ward being gone, but from a business angle that's clearly the right move.

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Kiper & McShay released their post-combine mock drafts this afternoon. McShay's looks ok; Kiper's is a train wreck...:2

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I honestly don't even know the draft date. Is it the 17th?

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April 26-28, 2012.:banger

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Also, in case you were wondering, both Kiper and McShay had the Steelers taking Dont'a Hightower, ILB from Alabama.:tu

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It looks like we're gonna need an inside linebacker. It's believable. And not at all out of order the way Steelers do things. That could definately end up happening.

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He'd look great alongside Timmons. Hightower is a thumper.:tu

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Wow Blackmon killed it at the Pro-day.. 4.41 40 time

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So the Rams traded the #2 pick in this year's draft to the Redskins for:

1st round pick in 2012 (#6 overall)
1st round pick in 2013
1st round pick in 2014
2nd round pick in 2012 (#39 overall)

So I guess my question is...Did Al Davis' ghost broker this deal at the behest of the Redskins organization? The Rams didn't fleece the Redskins; they threw them in the chipper shredder.

With that said, I could definitely see the Browns raining on the Rams parade by drafting Blackmon with the #4 overall. If that were to happen, the Rams should do the smart thing and draft Trent Richardson. He's one of the four elite prospects in this draft (along with Luck/RGIII/Kalil) but in today's NFL RB isn't near a premium position it once was.

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The Skins are hopeless. Until Dan Snyder strokes out, that team is doomed. He's the epitome of a hands-on owner that has no clue of how to build a ball team, but that really doesn't matter when you're the highest grossing team in the league. (Or are they 2nd now?)
I think this whole draft-guessing thing is more or less suspended until we see what Peyton does. He's likely to wrap up a team in the next week or so. Even though he went to see Elway, I can't see him playing there. Heck is, they definately have the parts, and if Peyton and Reggie Wayne show up, Denver is a threat. Maybe not a deep playoff threat, but by the end of next season I think Peyton can have them ready for a deep run with a minimum of shoring up player-wise. Elway is a winner and Peyton has to have huge respect for that, even though it's a cold-weather team and his numbers are hideous in the cold. All in all, Denver doesn't make sense.
Miami wants him in the worst kind of way, but AZ is a very valid option, too.
Who do you think is more poised to go to the show with Peyton and Wayne, AZ or Miami? I'd go with Miami. I've contended they're a QB away for the last 3 years, although AZ would do whatever it takes.
Which offense is more suited to Manning/Wayne?
(I'm pressing the Manning/Wayne issue because it's widely held that wherever Peyton goes, he's taking Reggie. So let's go with that scenario for now till we see what shakes out.)
I'd love to see Peyton in Miami, by the way. I think Flynn makes them a threat for years, but they want to sell tickets now because they're bleeding from the throat.

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If you're asking which team is more likely to go to the playoffs with Manning (assuming he's anywhere near the Manning of old of course) & Wayne, that's easy. Arizona. The Cardinals are much more likely to win the NFC West than the Dolphins are the AFC East.:2

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I would hate to see the Rams draft Richardson with #6. They have way too many other needs than a RB. I could see them getting Brockers or some other help on defense if Blackmon gets drafted.

I'm really excited about the potential of the extra first rounders in '13 and '14 they both have potential to be top 5; the picks could possibly be top 10 or even higher depending on how RG 3 does.

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While they might have bigger needs, it shouldn't be at the expense of drafting a lesser player (especially picking in the top ten). Jeff Fisher runs the piss out of the ball, and I just don't see Jackson holding up to the pounding and having someone like Richardson there will be invaluable in protecting the defense/Bradford. As an aside, I think Brockers is a bust waiting to happen.:2
If they're smart, they can parlay that #2 pick that they weren't going to use on RGIII anyways into the foundation of the next half decade. At the very least, this trade gives fans both of the Rams and Redskins something to be excited about.

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I kind of agree.
Do you think Whisenhunt would give Manning the leash he needs? I think it'd be a struggle for him to do it. To go from tight end coach to offensive coordinator to head coach to letting Peyton have full control of the offense, that's a stretch.
On the other hand, I think Philben would be relieved. :lr

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I honestly haven't watched enough film of Brockers to make an informed opinion. I have just seen some projections that have him going high. If blackmon is drafted by Cleveland maybe Claiborne will fall to 6. That's the best case scenario IMO. I think Claiborne is the 3rd best prospect in this class.

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I think the Rams just made the deal of the century.
I'm excited to see RG3 come in and play ball, so much so that I'm gonna have to get Directv this Fall, even though I hate it. I had the Directv experience in the past and had never-ending problems and they were worse than dealing with Verizon (may Verizon burn in hell for eternity). ;)
I have more faith in 3 than Luck, and I have no idea why. It's just a gut feeling, even though I know Luck will work out because the Colts are just way too lucky for him not to work out.
If the Rams are smart, as you suggested, they can really make things happen this year. They could certainly go .500, I'd think. Regardless, their fans are going to get to see a better brand of ball. :tu

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I have to admit, and it's based on nothing more than conjecture, but I think RGIII running Shanahan's offense will be a force. Elway and Plummer were deadly with those bootlegs; can you imagine someone with RGIII's ability running them?

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He's incredibly raw (just a RSS) and the team that drafts him is going to have to be patient.
Better than one of Luck/RGIII/Kalil? You're the first person I've heard say that.

The draft could easily fall Luck/RGIII/Kalil/Blackmon/Claiborne. Who do the Rams take then? Personally, I think there's a significant dropoff after the top six guys.

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The one game I watched Griffin live he was terrible. Baylor didn't score till late in the 4th quarter against a pretty average OSU defense. I like Luck #1 Kalil #2 Claiborne #3. Hell I could be wrong about RG3; however, I just don't think he is the 2nd best prospect in the draft. He is a tremendous athlete but QB is the hardest position in sports to play.

I was wrong about Newton last year and I'll be wrong again sooner than later.

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I sure can. So much so that I'm willing to suffer through Directv. I want to see this kid develop. I feel robbed that I didn't get to see Cam Newton this year.
I told Weeze we can go into a football coma if we get Directv and she was all aboard immediately. She was just kinda pissed that I put up the HD antenna and went through all that crap and spent all that money for nothing. Fortunately I can still use it somewhere in the house. I just need to fix it.

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RG3? Once again I am an excited Redskins fan, usually followed shortly by disappointment.
I have high hopes, but don't watch college ball to have an opinion other than what I am told about this kid.

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And that's fair. For some reason OK St. had his number both seasons (both played in Stillwater).
Nobody thought he'd be able to do what he did last year. I'll be the first to stand in line and take my helping of crow on Newton. I didn't think he'd amount to much; there were just so many things working against him.

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There was talk yesterday that Washington's trade for RG3 will be disallowed as part of Dan Snyder's punishment for taking advantage of the no-cap period when the CBA expired.
As it goes, Snyder was warned repeatedly to quit being a dick and he chose to do whatever he wanted. Now he's gonna pay the piper.
I'm excited to see how this story develops. It'll have to develop quickly with the draft coming, but as of yet, no official punishment has been levied that I'm aware of. I've been out of the loop for a couple days, so I'll have to check up on it.

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Holmgren got on the radio last night and said "it wouldn't be fair to Colt, he's our boy, etc.".
He finally iced the cake on what I've been saying all along, no qb for the Browns. They did make an overture, but let that die on the vine. They let the Skins close the draft spot trade deal without even talking to the Rams about the proposal they sent, or trying to counter. It must have been a really crappy offer is all I can figure.
If this Snyder trade is disallowed (based on no cap room, as in they are currently over max), maybe Holmgren eats his words and tries again?
Maybe Snyder can sue the Skins fans again and try to get some cap room?
This is such a wonderful soap opera. :D

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Whos watching?

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I have been but it's gonna be kinda boring now that the 2nd pick is over. Haha

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What is??? Is there something going on tonight???

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GO RAMS!!! I'm pumped about the trade! I'm praying Michael Floyd falls to 14.

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na, I'll keep watching to see if Nebraska's Lavante David can make the first round. So far the mock draft has been way off.

Also gotta watch to see the Chiefs and Lions picks since my Raiders pissed their picks away.

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Rams will pick Michael Brockers.

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Brandon Weeden to the Browns...............didn't see that one coming.

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Pumped about the Jags getting Blackmon!!!

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I like Blackmon, He reminds me of Randy Moss in ways.

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If he plays like the Real Randy Moss thatll be great. As long as he shows more maturity.:2

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Interesting that they took Weedon. I hope TR3 serves the Browns well.

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I never even considered Weeden going to the Browns for about umpteen reasons. I think they really may have done well with him, if only to have a future maybe on the bench.
I can see him playing real soon, it's his job to take. The whole deal just makes the Browns a better team, if only by raising the level of competition.
I was floored and disgusted with the Trent Richardson pick, but Stephen assures me he's the real deal.
I think Miami is happy with Tanehill, and Minnesota has to be ecstatic about Kalil.
I'm looking forward to the Browns getting better so they can become a decent ball club, that way when my Steelers crush them, I can thoroughly enjoy the pain in these Browns fans eyes. That's cruel, isn't it? I'm gonna love it. :D

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There were three (realistic) guys that I wanted for Green Bay. Luckily for me (and the Packers) the final name on the list is who they called at the podium (Nick Perry). As much as it pains me to say, I really liked the move the Cowboys made to nab Claiborne. This offseason they went from having a bad secondary to having a pretty good one (Carr/Claiborne).

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I love the Steelers draft; Adams and DeCastro are both solid OL!

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After sitting Thursday out, the Falcons at least added 600lbs to the team

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Great to see Clairborn and Carr as the CBs now. The Cowboys are shopping Mike Jenkins around now. Maybe Cleveland is in the market. The best part is, the Cowboys only lost a 2nd round pick. Still blew every Cowboys fans' minds. We all thought they were going with Barron.

With RGIII, the verdict is still out. I really don't know how a Shanahan run offense will be for him. He's more of a Cam Newton style QB, amd needs freer rein than that the Shanahans will probably give him.

As for McCoy being serviceable, he's a primadonna. The National Championship game, when he " hurt his sholder"? Please. Daddy didn't want his cash cow hurt, so he took a dive. He sacrificed UT's chances. And I'm not saying that just because I loathe UT with the passion of a million burning red supergiant suns.

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Anyone know why Bobby Massie is freefalling? He was projected as an early RD 2 pick. Was he caught with dead hookers the night before the draft? Kiper looks like a idiot for having him so high.

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Seattle fans are going to be very happy with Bobby Wagner, trust me....kid is great.

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Overall, I'm pretty pleased with Dallas's picks. Filled what needed to be filled. We'll see which ones are boons and which ones are busts come week 1.

Going over all of it, IMO, the biggest sleeper pick is Tannehill to Miami.

What are some of your favorite picks, or real head scratchers?

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I :r at Burfict going undrafted...

Love that Seattle went Utah State squared... Both those guys will make Seahawks fans smile.