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Mike, I hate to point it out to you, but you just proved my point. See below as a cut and past of what you posted.

1 played 2 for the championship game. Always.


And that's what makes college ball so great, ain't it? We still owe y'all for the 2000 Orange Bowl, by the way. See you in Dallas next September. :tu

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^^^...and the loser of that BIG10 Championship game....what BCS game are they going to?

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I realize this is bravado mixed with sarcasm, but no, not a bit. Until you can come into my house and
make a field goal to win a game, and not have your misses be just blind bad luck, but consistent failure,
there is no way bama is better. Saban is not the only person in the football world who knew going in
it was likely he was going to have to make a lot of field goals. LSU is not sisters of the poor.
And yet he consistently forced his kicker to take these wildly out-of-range shots at the uprights.
So maybe we even have a better COACH than you guys. You guys had THE Trent Richardson, you should
have GONE FOR IT on 4th down.

-(P you are deluded, hoss, lol.

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I Think Most People Think Saban Has Been A Better Coach Than Miles Over Their Lifetimes, Brad.:) I Will Admit You Have Better Special Teams, But I Feel We Have A Better Offense & Defense. We'll See How It Plays Out Jan.9th In The "Neutral" (What A Joke! :r) Site Of New Orleans!:tu

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AND there it is..., lol. I was WAITING so long for someone to say that. haha
A.) We can't control the venue for the NCG. We have coincidentally been crowned champ in every year we
played in the dome for all the marbles. That is true.
B.) You ain't Boise St.....you are only driving to New Orleans. You will have access to as many tickets
as we do. I don't need to remind you the argument I got into over the pitiful tickets we got for the
Bama-LSU matchup in T-town. I was schooled on that one, though.
C.) New Orleans is not Baton Rouge by a long shot, in any way, except the state it's in and the fact
that there are some cajuns there. There are cajuns in Tuscaloosa. 90-minutes for us, about double
that for you.

haha, OK, got that out of my system. On to Saban - Miles. I think without researching that Miles has a
much better winning percentage over his tenure at LSU than Nickie did, and I think it is also better than
Nickie's at Bama. THINK. But what an excellent point....RESEARCH, here I go, lol.

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:tu

Who cares for $100, Alex? :r:r

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Go For It!:r Look At Coaching Records Over Their Entire Careers, Brad!:tu

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Problem is the system is garbage so they had to "massage" the final rankings to avoid a rematch in the final. Strangely this time they won't message the rankings and are willing to let the SEC have a rematch. No rematch for the Big10, but the SEC gets one. Hmmmm.

The system is flawed, but they made the right move last time by tweaking the rankings to avoid a rematch. This year their SEC bias is preventing them from doing what is right.

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But, but, but...Les Miles wears a dumb looking hat and eats grass, hoss. We'll be in your house shortly and we'll see what happens. Should be another good game.

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"Miles goes into the 2011 season with a record at LSU of 62-17, including a 33-15 mark in SEC regular season games.
Miles is the fastest coach in LSU history to reach milestone victories of 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 games. "

That quote alone precludes Saban from having been that record-holder, so even though I think it is currently
a small diffrential, I believe that Miles is better all around in LSU records and likely had a better record than Saban for
what, "first 4 years at the school" type records. Of course, Saban got to bama in somewhat of a disarray and
Saban left miles a full cupboard. That affected their first year's totals a good bit. But the statement Les can only
win with Saban's recruits has been roundly proven illegitimate as you can very well see. He is about to win his
second Nat. Champ. if you don't mind me saying so. But I have to state for the record in this thread what I have
ALWAYS said, I am not someone who blames Saban for leaving. his average "years at school" is a measly 2.5
over his career. There were some doofus fans that had to throw up a sign that denigrated him on his
return to BR some years back, but Miles is and has been a fan favorite that never gives us any reason to look
back at Saban and think, "if only we had nick saban..."

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One at a time, lol. YES we anxiously await you guys at the Dome. No doubt gonna be must-see TV for at least
two fan bases....

TWO, what across all TWO teams of his career?? 90-38. Not as good as Saban, but only time will tell.
He has Saban beat %-wise so far over Saban at LSU and certainly at Bama. Where can he go from here?

See?? again with the waiting. i can't believe I have ALL through SHOPPING season, Christmas, NEW YEARS
and being too fat from all of it before I even see a PROMO for this game. RE-tarded.

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Wait, if you're counting Saban wins don't forget you have to vacate a few for NCAA violations...

:tf

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And yet there were many a public outry to can him after 2009. Go figure.:sh

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Sorry, the Hoover-Met was plumb booked up that weekend. Tractor pull and all.
Haha, get over it, If I polled 100% of likely Bama bowl attendees, 95% of them would rather ride to
New Orleans to see the game than any venue in the state of Alabama...come on, it's NEW ORLEANS!
My God, can you IMAGINE what that joint is gonna be like. VERY neutral site. Sure, if we were playing
Wisconsin, it might be a little slanted towards Purple and gold in the seats, but you guys are gonna travel
well. I hope they restrict it to sides so there is a stark LINE of red and purple. ANd I hope even more
that they slant the split to give eatch team an entire endzone, or even half it perpendicular to the field.

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Y'all be cheating smack. Love it. :tu
Hold on a cotton picking minute...that's just revisionist history. Go ask any level headed LSU fan. They all loved him from day one. Especially his time management skills :noon

You know, I laugh at him all the time, but he's obviously a good coach. The SEC is better for having him. Just another character to add to the mix. He's like the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.

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More fun for you SEC fanboys...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...-in-on-the-fun

I guess they really do believe that if you're not cheating your not trying.

Should I bring up the academic standards (or lack thereof)?

:tf

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My sentiments exactly. I admitted I initially thought he was a lucky SOB whose luck would eventually win out, which ironically is what a lot of people thought about Tebow in the NFL. Turns out we're both wrong. Miles, like Tebow, is a winner and no matter how sloppy sometimes.

While I now acknowledge him as an elite coach, I still like to sometimes laugh kindheartedly at his quirks and eccentricities. 'Course I think that's one of my favorite things about meeting and getting to know new people, quirky character traits are what make life fun :tu

(But I he's still the luckiest SOB on the planet for that faked field goal to beat UF in '10 @the Swamp were the holder tossed the ball NO LOOK behind his head to have it bounce PERFECTLY to the kicker in full stride. Trying do that successful again 1 time out of 100. Tiny rant over :D)

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nah, we all make mistakes, lol. it would seem to me that it takes the same amount of coaching to win a
game you later vacate as it does to get a regular win.

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OK, hold it now...I think you are in the wrong thread. If you want to bash the SEC,
I invite you to go and do it in the SEC thread. Thanks. No offense, just not here, please.

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AH-hahahahahahah, you kill me, Michael. Tiny rant. Priceless. I thought I was seeing things.
That was actually the second time he tried that fake, the first time was FLAWLESS in every way.
Successful both times, btw.

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Come on now....that's a low blow. They just really love their football down South, they're born into nurseries painted in school colors and are taught little sayings about their rivals as soon as they're old enough to talk.... They have 9 year old kids that know more about the game than people like myself. It is their culture....:r That piggy backs on the academic standards(focus is on SEC...SEC...SEC, not READING....WRITING.....ARITHMETIC....)

$EC....$EC....$EC

(All in good fun kids, if I seriously offend, it was not the intent)

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You're Just Jealous, Brother!:D :tu

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I do enjoy the passion you guys have, in an admittedly odd sort of way. There is no way I'd be anywhere but the West....and no conference I'd rather be involved with, than the PAC12... As Jimmy Morrison said, "the West is the best." :tu

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My head hurts!

Playoffs are needed, even before anyone got the shaft this year, plain and simple. The only way a national title becomes "real" this year is if LSU wins and OKST loses. If Bama wins, then the OKST supporters would be saying that they deserve a shot (and it's hard to argue that they don't, IMO). This is the ONLY sport that doesn't have a playoff system to determine the champion. How the hell does that work that this system is still around? I'm all for tradition, but come on...

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Greg, would it be too early to say that we may good at cheating, but at least we don't harbor, aid, and abet child molesters in our conference? :rolleyes: Yeah, probably too early. Strike that comment. My apologies. Carry on.... ;)

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By the way, folks, that's exactly how we are going to beat Alabama next "year", with just
that kind of charmed occurrence. I know going in that bama fans thought this was the year, all
the planets and recruiting had aligned for this one moment in time. But it is actually LSU that is
going to have the meant to be season. LSU wins, bank it. Remember what happened LAST time
I gave out this advice?

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Ehhh, I need to stop it. Like I said, I can't DO THIS for a freaking month, lol.

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You Always Have, In The Past, Brad! :r Like I Said Before, If You Win Jan. 9th, I'll Be Glad To Congratulate You!:tu We Shall See.;)

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Even for me that is an INTOLERABLE amount of time to wait. The system has built-in calendar days BEGGING
for a playoff, and still we wait a month and basically lose all the football lovers except for the two individual
fanbases. Foul.

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For All The "Big 12" Fans, I Heard Danny Sheridan On The Radio, Today. He Said No Way Can The Oklahoma States & Stanfords Compete With The LSU Or Alabama Defenses This Year. He Feels That Arkansas & Its Bobby Petrino Offense Is As Good As Any In The Big 12 & Both BAMA & LSU Demolished Arkansas This Year. A Great Defense Beats A Good Offense Every Time, My Friends!:tu :)

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http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/ar...ip-game,26851/

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...ampionship.jpg

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I love it E.J.

I hope bama wins. Then who will be the champ? The both will have beat each other once and will have the same record.

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OSU will also finish with the same record if Alabama wins. :sh

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It's easy to figure out. Who's got the best marketing advantage?
Go Money!!! :tu

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Well........yaaaawwwwnnnn.......I thoroughly enjoyed watching WVU ripping the "ACC Champions!!!!!!" apart last night. Clemson exposed AGAIN as the overrated team they are.

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MMmmmmhmmm. Haters gonna hate....

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Perfect. The more controversy and complaining from the schools, the more likely they replace this crap with a tourney.

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So Michigan has a smaller budget due to lower attendance than an SEC school?

http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/sta...xt/mattend.htm
Even a year old stat like that is staggering. The Big House is the largest college football stadium, and the third larest in the world, excluding NASCAR and horse racetracks. Don't give me the budget argument because it doesn't hold water. Michigan has soldout the largest stadium for 35 years, ranks 7th of all schools in merchandise sales and 4th overall in revenue/profit (with Georgia being the only SEC ahead of them).

The SEC wins because they are better at, or more willing, to cheat. The SEC signs more recruits than they are allowed to and are guilty of more NCAA violations than any other conference. Yet the NCAA is unwilling to really punish them because they bring in good TV ratings and hence lots of money.

7 of 12 SEC schools now facing sanctions in the past two years:
http://outkickthecoverage.com/south-...-sanctions.php

Merch numbers link:
per this link http://content.usatoday.com/communit...andise-sales/1)

Overall revenue/profit link:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/29/news...lars/index.htm

I'm not about bashing the SEC per se. Ohio State got a slap on the wrist too. The whole thing just bothers me. It's like Barry Bonds's homerun record. Sure he has the numbers, but everyone knows he cheated to get them.

Sure as a fan you get to enjoy the wins at gameday and the sanctions or vacated wins won't be official for a few years so, who cares?

I guess my beef is with the NCAA. If they want to get rid of this crap for real they'll punish all those who benefit from it. Players taking money/gifts, make them sit out 3 years before being eligible for the NFL draft. Take 20 scholarships for 3 years (60 total) from the school, and ban the coach for 3 years from taking ANY NCAA coaching position.

They'll never do it. They have no spine and they gave away their post season system to another entity (BCS), who crowns a mythical national champ every year.

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Yes, but Mike, remember, when you are talking about NCAA violations, one of the teams
in the National Championship game has not had a major NCAA violation in 25 years. That's LSU,
baby, haha.

Someone here posted this link: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...-in-on-the-fun
Which purports to show the SEC as this smudgy city on a hill of infractions, but all you have to do is read the part
they did not copy and past into the forum, the part that stops talking about the SEC and begins to shine the light
in all directions and how only a few schools in the entire system are clean. You are right, it is a barrel full of rotted
fruit and it needs to be upended and washed out with bleach. And as soon as you stop caring about intercollegiate
athletics, they will probably think about doing it. But for now the money is too powerful. Maybe we should
trade the BCS for our government, it might work better....oh wait, they are the same thing.

But we don't cheat better down here, we have more warm months to practice being great at football.
Or spicy food makes people run faster. But no, we don't cheat better, we all cheat the same. Yes, LSU
was busted for over-promising scholarships, but I am sure that is the same all over the country with the
schools where kids REALLY want to go, and it hurts the Vanderbilts and the Furmans and the whos-evers.
But it ain't a SEC deal, my friend. I wouldn't trust a single properly researched article that doesn't also point
out that these are just the flavor of the month mentions the SEC is getting...OH St. was properly noted by
you, Southern Cal, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. Corruption is not everywhere, but it sure
is widespread.

And as stated, NO major infractions for LSU since 1986...now this quote from the above article...Since 1987,
there have been 72 major infractions committed by 56 of the nation's current 120 FBS programs, including 44
of the current 67 automatic-qualifying BCS members -- a staggering 65.7 percent from the six power conferences.

Are there 56 SEC schools, haha.

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I'm no fan of government Brad. Point taken on LSU. They have been above reproach for some time. Helps to have a "Michigan Man" at the helm. ;)

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No, you were right for the most part....LSU got hit with trouble for over-promising scholarships,
and while it was not found to be a major infraction, it was very much in line whith what people call cheating.
But yeah, haha, we're clean as a baby's butt, and twice as smoove.

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THE BCS IS BROKEN, We should have played Oklahoma State, lol........

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So you're saying that the bcs is broken... Because clearly the #2 lsu tigers should have played the #3 osu cowboys?

Or

I dunno. Maybe you're right, maybe the bcs is broken... Maybe Stanford deserved to play instead of lsu. Or maybe Boise.

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It was supposed to be a thread closing joke, Jerms.....

Since you are from Alabama, let me explain it.
After the whipping we took at the hands of Alabama, I am now saying we should have played OK St.


Get it?? :r

Oh and not for nuttin, but I DOUBT we will be #2 in the end. I would bet on and support a OK St. #2
If we had even scored a point of any KIND, hell GA Southern hung a couple TDs on the Tide.
After all, if you don't WIN IT ALL, who really cares where you shake out?

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Hehe, ok I'll let it rest. :) had to get one jab In there.